Movie Hulks vs MOS Kryptonians

VS

Bloodlusted

Takes place in an empty city

NO BFR

HULKs win in my opinion, but Abomination and NorHULK goes down no matter what.

MoS and Zod tag-team this battle.

Any Kryptonian solos, they have better strength, speed and durability fears. Movie Hulks have been pretty weak this far.

Abomination was beaten by a Hulk who's legs were barely strong enough to clear a building while jumping. Avengers version seems stronger and I don't think we've seen his limit but has done nothing compared to the various fights in MoS.

Oh and Ang Lee Hulk nearly passed out when taken high into atmosphere, so if something similar happened to when Superman and Zod took a trip to the Wayne satellite, then that Hulk is down too.

The Kryptonians due to versatility.

MCU Hulk solos

Kyrptonians. Way faster, better training with Zod's people, at least just as strong, heat vision that cut through buildings like butter. I wonder if they'll get frost breath eventually....

Kryptonians float 50 feet above ground while laying down heat vision

Hulks jump up to try and tag them, Kryptonians move out of the way

Rinse repeat

The Hulks take it.

It gets ugly.

Kryptonians easy win..

@krisboyuk:

This ^ ^

Well one thing is sure, no character is soloing here... to think otherwise is to willfully chose to be ignorant.

Hulks win imo

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Kryptonians

Norton Hulk and abominations were pretty weak. if you but the m against Faora and Nam-ek i think they would have a drawn out battle.

While zod and Superman take on the stronger hulks.

I woul say Superman is pretty close to the hulks strength if not stronger. While zod is equal or lesser in strength to them.

Superman can take out his hulk and Zod could beat the other or nearly do it.

Then they go help Faora and Nam-ek

@academic: Ehat do shockwave special effects put in just because the director decided to put them there, have to do with anything?

Absolutely no way does anyone solo here

Kryptonians

@hyiena:

Simple

Because mcu and mos use shock waves we can compare them

It's cinematic fact

Kryptonians generate shock waves that have far greater force and.destructive effect than mcu

Therefore kryptonians hit harder

Only one with significant combat speed here is Faora and she's weaker than Clark and Zod. Hulks have better reaction by feats:

Show me anyone on Kryptonian team that isn't Faora who has feats like that^

better training with Zod's people

That's pretty inconsequential. Zod was bred to be a soldier but lost to Jor who was bred to be a scientist and later lost to Clark who was raised on a farm.

at least just as strong

By feats, the only one who comes close to strength to any of the Hulks is Superman and Zod. Faora and Nam-Ek don't even compare.

heat vision that cut through buildings like butter.

MCU Leviathan's can also cut through buildings like butter:

And this is what Hulk does to them:

Hulks.

Faora and Nam-Ek are weak links on Team 2. Significantly weaker physically, can;t fly, no heat vison but on top of this their ARMOR is a major weakness. Damage that and their automatically incapped......and the Hulk certainly have the damage output for it. It'll be a tough fight though.

@m_man: Clark brock the sounds barrier when he first flew. He was able to escape the pull from the phantom zone. Faora was smacking Clark around. If she is weaker, it's not by a significant amount. Nam-Ek was able to catch Clark mid blitz. Hulk isn't moving anywhere near as fast as the Kyrptonians. Nam-Ek threw that train car hundreds of feet through the air with ease and both him and Faora were beating Clark. Clark and crew created shockwaves when they hit each other. Not to mention Clark and Zod crashes from re entry without any damage. Leviathan isn't the same kind of damage as heat vision, let's not try to reach with that comparison. I'd argue Clark was stronger than Zod thanks to more time on Earth too but that's besides the point.

Dude get out seriously.

I don´t think he was being serious

That's flight speed not combat speed. Iron Man went super sonic too. Obviously he doesn't fight at super sonic speeds nor does Clark.

He was able to escape the pull from the phantom zone.

Don't see how that's impressive.

Faora was smacking Clark around. If she is weaker, it's not by a significant amount.

She fought a morals-on Clark who was holding back in a town filled with civilians in a 2v1.

Nam-Ek was able to catch Clark mid blitz.

Highly doubt he moved any faster in that instance than an rpg or missile.

Hulk isn't moving anywhere near as fast as the Kyrptonians.

In travel-speed, sure. This isn't a race though it's a fight. Show me significant reaction feats.

Nam-Ek threw that train car hundreds of feet through the air with ease and both him and Faora were beating Clark.

MCU Hulk stopped a building-sized/building busting Leviathen at full speed. 2003 Hulk threw a tank hundreds of feet through the air.

Clark and crew created shockwaves when they hit each other.

Superficial effects. Hulk stopped a Leviathan with a punch, you didn't see any shockwaves but it's demonstrably better than any punch thrown by any DCEU Kryptonian (yet).

Not to mention Clark and Zod crashes from re entry without any damage.

Their descent was nerfed seeing as how their "crash" barely damaged a building filled with people. 2003 Hulk tanked an explosion spanning thousands of feet and MCU Hulk tanked this:

Leviathan isn't the same kind of damage as heat vision, let's not try to reach with that comparison.

Sure but heatvision confirmed by the director burns the Kryptonians eyes and they can't use it more than a few seconds. And only Supes and Zod can use it.

I'd argue Clark was stronger than Zod thanks to more time on Earth too but that's besides the point.

Sure.

Kryptonians have faster combat and travel speed, two of them can fly and have heat vision, and two of them are at minimum equally as strong as the strongest on the hulk team.

Kryptonians.

There's speed for you, if land speed was greater than flight Clark and Zodd would fight on land. All these guys are so much faster than Hulk it's not even close.

This isn't a mismatch but the Hulks are going to be beaten and slammed until death fairly easy. I would take any 2 Krytonians over the 4 Hulks.

@m_man

Clark used a continous stream of HV when he melted through all the ice in the artic. Each time Zod used it, he was able to sustain it without any ill effects. Clark is defintely more adpet than Zod is with it, seeing as he already had it mastered from as early as elementary school.

I think you are understating Faora and nam-Ek's strength. The difference in strength is not as big as you are making it out to be. To be honest, I don't think there is much of gap gap. Both had pretty impressive showings of strength. Nam-Ek in particuaalr has already shown that he can match Clark in physcals, which was shown in their breif scuffle. In fact, Nam-ek outright overpowered him as far as strength goes:

The only reason Clark got the better of him was because he had the advantage "flight", which he captilsesed on. The novel seems to support this:

“After leaving the rescued gunner on a rooftop, Superman dropped down on Nam-Ek from above and grabbed hold of the silent giant. As far as he could tell, he had one tactical advantage over the other Kryptonians—flight—and he intended to make the most of it.”

In the end, Nam-Ek had to be BFR'd

Faora hurled Clark a considerable distance through multiple building structures--with enough force to dent a bank vault made of reinforced contrete and steel. She dug her fingers through Clark's ship and ripped it open with minimal effort.

This battle can go either way. 50/50 chance on how it's played.

@gxrevolution96:

Sure the difference may not be as big as I make it out to be I admit that but it IS significant and it's definitely there. He did have a flight advantage but it's clear he was holding back the entire fight. I mean just compare his fight in that 2v1 with his fight against Zod. He clearly went far more out in that fight in a city that was pretty much destroyed than here in a small town filled with civilians. He was overpowered in that one instance but again he grappled with both kryptonains at the same time here:

As for the heatvision, if you notice, not all the HV has the same intensity. The HV Zod used initially cut a building in half but couldn't aim it properly and needed seconds after to recover. When he used it against the civilians near the end of the film, it didn't cut the building in half just scorched the wall but he was able to use it much more efficiently. But regardless, my main point was, either way, the Hulks should be able to tank it just fine.

Kryptonians win

that combat speed argument is stupid when it comes to suprman. superman's travel speed is his combat speed. he is moving his own body and reacting at those speeds. he isn't like thor who uses a hammer as a vehicle.

Team Angryman due to no bfr

So Iron Man's combat speed is supersonic since he fan fly at supersonic speeds right? And Hulk > Iron Man so that must mean Hulk is hypersonic by that logic right?

Sometimes I think people here watch different films than I do.

MoS is just a much grander scale of power and speed, how are people not seeing this? Superman destroyed that machine that was crushing the earth by flying right through the beam. None of the kryptonians were so much as scratched the entire film.

MCU Hulk was defeated by hulk buster iron man btw. That's pretty pathetic. He definitely seemed less powerful than the kryptonians in every way

It could go either way.

The scary part is that he's serious.

Kryptonians win.

Hulk got KO'ed falling from the helicarrier, which due to terminal velocity, is the same as falling from a very tall skyscraper. Just awful durability compared to the Kryptonians.

Hulks

It could go either way.

Do people watch the same films? Superman's durability alone suggests Hulks can't do jack to him. In the same day he battles the two Kryptionans in Smallville, flys to the other side of the world in mins, battles the world engine defences while weakened , smashed the world engine which is pushing down with enough force to reshape the earth, flys back to the point their side of the world I'm mins again and has a battle with Zod which destroys half a city and goes to space and back. Just a different scale, doesn't mean it's better but totally different scale of power.

@academic: Hello. Don't accuse other users of being a fanboy. Thanks.

I'm not sure where folks get the idea that MOS Kryptonians are stronger than the movie Hulk. People in these discussions often put it out there as if it's an obvious fact.

The best feat of strength in MOS was Clark holding up the section of oil derrick during the rig fire. My best estimate is that section was about 75' take and, research suggested that it would weigh right around 100 tons. Clark was straining to hold this up so it makes sense that he is right at a 100 ton limit. (You can argue that he gets stronger in the movie but there's not any good evidence to support this.)

The extras in the Ang Lee Hulk say that he can lift 100 tons. Given the way he handles the roughly 50 ton tanks, that looks about right. I can't think of any defining test of strength for the Norton-Hulk, other than tearing a car in half. That takes much more energy than crushing a car, and Popular Science suggests about 11 million lbs of force or 5500 tons. I think pop science is highballing their estimate. That's how much it would take to snap a 1/10 meter thick steel bar by pulling on the ends. A car, which is made up of many pieces and is not resigned to deal with that kind of stress would be easier. Though even is Norton hulk is only 1/10 as strong at the article suggests, that's still about 5 times as strong as Clark. And the Abomination in that scene still seems to be about twice as strong as the Hulk.

Then there's Ruffalo-Hulk, who is probably the strongest of the three. We don't have any good lifting feats for him, but he brings the leviathan to a halt with one punch. The Leviathan is about 300 feet long and has a similar build to a blue whale. If a 110' whale weighs 190 tons, then a 300' whale would weigh (300/110)^3 * 190 = about 3850 tons. Timing the leviathan coming around the corner of the building as it chases Iron Man yields a speed of about 75 mph. The monster thus has a kinetic energy of 1.97 gigaJoules and the Hulk's punch has to match that to stop the leviathan's momentum. That's the equivalent of a the explosion of a little less half a ton of TNT, and much stronger than the blast waves we see from Superman and Zod's punches to each other. That's also enough not only to lift 100 tons but to throw it at 465 mph.

Based on this, the Hulks have an advantage and (since they hold up well to each other's punches) probably durability as well. The Khryptonians are faster, though this doesn't apply to haw many attacks they can throw in a short period of time. The best use of suppressed in combat was Faora in the Smallville fight but she didn't do a suppressed flurry (nobody in the movie did) she just repositioned herself several times at super speed. Based on what we see the super speed demonstrated is travel speed. Combat speed is not noticeably superhuman.

Flight, speed, and heat vision are clearly on the side of the Kryptonians, but the Hulks are stronger and tougher. It could go either way and would be interesting to watch.