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#1  Edited By Lordflawlez

monarch the ruler of the universe and superMAN prime( not boy) vs

VS

the mad titan and the all father

which team wins?

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I read this as Monarch and Superman Prime vs. Thanos and Robin.

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#3  Edited By Goldchamp101

Much Mismatch

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Spite thread.

Monarch solos

prime solos

these two are far above skyfather levels.

Monarch is a universal threat who can burst a universe and superman prime went toe to toe with him and survived a universe buster.

There is nothing odin or thanos can do to both prime and monarch. Heck when prime was superboy, he tanked a galaxy buster and that's the equivalent of odin's strongest attack.

Thanos here is canon fodder, heck both of em are fodders for man prime and monarch

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@gamingod said:

Spite thread.

Monarch solos

prime solos

these two are far above skyfather levels.

Monarch is a universal threat who can burst a universe and superman prime went toe to toe with him and survived a universe buster.

There is nothing odin or thanos can do to both prime and monarch. Heck when prime was superboy, he tanked a galaxy buster and that's the equivalent of odin's strongest attack.

Thanos here is canon fodder, heck both of em are fodders for man prime and monarch

Team 1 easy win.

That is not even true.Odin is far from busting a galaxy with 1 blast.His galaxy bustig feats are just as hyperbolic as cell busting a solar system.

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Team 2 easily. Prime gets one shotted with telepathy. Odin accidentally breaks Monarchs armour and kills them all.

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I read this as Monarch and Superman Prime vs. Thanos and Robin.

Spite. Robin oneshots.

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Thanos makes SMP turn sides.

It becomes Thanos, SMP, Odin vs Monarch.

Then thanos and Odin shield themselves, combined , while SMP opens Monarch's suit.

Thanos & Odin win.

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you mean before or after suoerman prime one shots thanos?

Show me thanos mind controlling somebody way powerful than he is. Martian manhunter has great telephatic feats yet he couldnt do crap to superboy prime talkless of superman prime.

You might as well say thanos can mindcontrol odin while you are at it. Odin who cant even beat superman prime.

Prime would blitz and rip thanos head right off the bat with a casual punch. Before he could do jackshit.

Heck you can remove prime from the match and monarch would still stomp odin and thanos combined.

Either solos with ease

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Monarch 2016 said odin never busted a galaxy and its all hyperbole, is it true guys? Was odin ever shown on panel busting a galaxy? Or was it just hype?

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Monarch 2016 said odin never busted a galaxy and its all hyperbole, is it true guys? Was odin ever shown on panel busting a galaxy? Or was it just hype?

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Odin never busted a galaxy on panel.

The odin busting a galaxy feat is based on a few words by the narrator that long dead galaxies are shattered yet the ground they were fighting was just as intact as before the fight.

This feat is just as true as the narrator saying odin is omnipotent

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Prime opens Monarch armor and he survives, or they TP Prime and they open Monarch's armor and Team 2 dies.

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Prime opens Monarch armor and he survives, or they TP Prime and they open Monarch's armor and Team 2 dies.

Both of team 2 can teleport, and one can stop time altogether, they aren't dying.

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@Greenskar

they cant teleport outta a universe , heck how would they even know the blast would burst the whole universe?

Monarch dsnt even need to unleash a universe buster to beat odin and thanos.

He can outright stomp them with lesser energy. Superman prime just outright beat them down physically. Thier attacks would do crap to prime with universal durability.

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@monarch2016:

So you think every time Odin was stated to be a Galaxy buster it was a hyperbole?

I don't buy it

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#17  Edited By Goldchamp101

@gamingod said:

He can outright stomp them with lesser energy

What's Monarch's best feat without his armor being breached?

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@gamingod said:

Apex_predator

superman prime one-shot Thanos

lol at Unamped Superman Prime one-shotting Thanos

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Prime solo.

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@goldchamp101

both superboy prime and superman prime would stomp thanos.

Boy prime would defeat him easil

man prime would fodderize him like an insect that he is

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@goldchamp101

both superboy prime and superman prime would stomp thanos.

Boy prime would defeat him easily, boy prime is 100% skyfather unlike thanos. And already tanked the equivalent of odin strongest attack( galaxy buster)

man prime on the other hand would fodderize thanos in a godly stompage like a man squashes a bug

either prime or monarch solos.

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@gamingod:

Odin is a Multi-Galaxy Buster, Not just a Singular Galaxy Buster

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multi galaxy my ass, even his galaxy busting feat was never shown on panel, it was just mere words.

And even if i give him that feat, he still gets stomp by superman prime who has universal durability and monarch a universe buster

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#24  Edited By Goldchamp101

@gamingod:

I don't buy everytime Odin was stated to Destroy/Reignite/Threaten Galaxies it was a Hyperbole

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Monarch and Emo Prime

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@gamingod: I don't think you have a firm grasp on what hyperbole really is or when its being used. Narrators can use hyperbole but generally what narrators say can be accepted as somewhat factual. Seth even prior to his fight with Odin was talking about wanting to destroy the entire universe as his goal. Then you have the writer/narrator reaffirming multiple times about how their fight was being waged across all dimensions in the universe and Dr. Strange comments about it tearing at the fabric of the multiverse and wondering if it will result in the universe being destroyed. Other beings are also shown as being aware of the battle and worried about its side effects. Then you have Odin declaring himself a power without equal(which could be seen as somewhat hyperbolic given Odin says a lot of things) followed by the narrator saying how an energy blast from Seth sent shockwaves throughout all dimensions which is later followed by his statement about long dead galaxies being destroyed by them(presumably by energetic shockwaves the battle was sending which makes more sense since they were fighting at the foot of Yggdrassil which has roots which connect throughout the universe). So while you may want to chalk that galaxy busting feat down as pure hyperbole it makes perfect sense within the context the narrator was using throughout the battle that it should be taken at face. Monarch meanwhile being a true universe buster is a whole nother story as is the idea of SMP having universal level durability. You're really just coming off as a diehard fanboy.

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Team 2 easily. Prime gets one shotted with telepathy. Odin accidentally breaks Monarchs armour and kills them all.

Both Monarch and Prime survived that explosion.

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Exactly , both monarch and prime can survive the destruction of a universe.

That means thanos and odin has zero chances of winning

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These threads feel like repeats

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@gamingod said:

Exactly , both monarch and prime can survive the destruction of a universe.

That means thanos and odin has zero chances of winning

Prove it with scans and context please.

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Its a spite thread

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What's Monarch's best feat without his armor being breached?

What I can think of:

  • Let 3 GL's attack him all they wanted and they broke off a corner of his helmet. The energies released were enough to kill 1 instantly and nearly kill other 2.
  • Lets 40 featless captain atoms attack him and Red Son superman and another superman fight him. He casually puts them down in 1-2 shots and doesn't even pay attention to the captain atoms.
  • When he fights SMP, he slightly opens his armor from the side and blasts him so hard that it hurts him.
@gamingod said:

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you mean before or after suoerman prime one shots thanos?

Lolol prime is not even close to one shotting Thanos. Show me who has he one-shotted comparable to thanos' durability?

Show me thanos mind controlling somebody way powerful than he is.

Thanos mind controlled hulk, who has TP resistance of high level, SMP has no TP resistance.

Martian manhunter has great telephatic feats yet he couldnt do crap to superboy prime talkless of superman prime.

MMH didn't even try to get into SBP's mind, that's his fault.

You might as well say thanos can mindcontrol odin while you are at it. Odin who cant even beat superman prime.

Odin has high level TP feats.

Prime would blitz and rip thanos head right off the bat with a casual punch. Before he could do jackshit.

Show me him doing this to someone who can tank blackholes bigger than supernovas, or someone who casually overpowers star busters or who was unharmed by Power Gem users' hits.

Heck you can remove prime from the match and monarch would still stomp odin and thanos combined.

Lol, his only hope is exploding his armor and he will get KO'd.

Either solos with ease

They arent fighting hulk and thor.

Prime opens Monarch armor and he survives, or they TP Prime and they open Monarch's armor and Team 2 dies.

Prime & monarch will both get KO'd if they open his armor, so it will end in a stalemate.

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@spambot said:

@gamingod: I don't think you have a firm grasp on what hyperbole really is or when its being used. Narrators can use hyperbole but generally what narrators say can be accepted as somewhat factual. Seth even prior to his fight with Odin was talking about wanting to destroy the entire universe as his goal. Then you have the writer/narrator reaffirming multiple times about how their fight was being waged across all dimensions in the universe and Dr. Strange comments about it tearing at the fabric of the multiverse and wondering if it will result in the universe being destroyed. Other beings are also shown as being aware of the battle and worried about its side effects. Then you have Odin declaring himself a power without equal(which could be seen as somewhat hyperbolic given Odin says a lot of things) followed by the narrator saying how an energy blast from Seth sent shockwaves throughout all dimensions which is later followed by his statement about long dead galaxies being destroyed by them(presumably by energetic shockwaves the battle was sending which makes more sense since they were fighting at the foot of Yggdrassil which has roots which connect throughout the universe). So while you may want to chalk that galaxy busting feat down as pure hyperbole it makes perfect sense within the context the narrator was using throughout the battle that it should be taken at face. Monarch meanwhile being a true universe buster is a whole nother story as is the idea of SMP having universal level durability. You're really just coming off as a diehard fanboy.

The narrator said that long dead galaxies are shattered not destroyed,and that blast was that powerfull that long dead galaxies were shattered yet the ground they were fighting was just as intact as before the fight.

The fact is Odin never showed galaxy level busting blasts on panel and his galaxies busting feats are just as hyperbolic as him being omnipotent which was also said by the narrator,but we all know Odin is not omnipotent.

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#34  Edited By Goldchamp101

@monarch2016:

A Hyperbole is an exaggeration. Odin being stated to be a Galaxy buster is not a Confirmed Hyperbole unless it can be disproven without a shadow of a doubt

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@monarch2016:

A Hyperbole is an exaggeration. Odin being stated to be a Galaxy buster is not a Confirmed Hyperbole unless it can be disproven without a shadow of a doubt

Well it can't be proven that he is a galaxy buster,not even close.

Odin never destroyed a galaxy on panel.

Thanos with the IG wiped out life in %25 of a Galaxy and Odin said he never seen such power before and was scared.That is not how a galaxy destroyer would act at the sight of that relatively weak attack.

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@goldchamp101 said:

@monarch2016:

A Hyperbole is an exaggeration. Odin being stated to be a Galaxy buster is not a Confirmed Hyperbole unless it can be disproven without a shadow of a doubt

Thanos with the IG wiped out life in %25 of a Galaxy and Odin said he never seen such power before and was scared

Scans?

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@goldchamp101:

Can't find it.

Still doesn't change the fact that odin's and seth's attack didn't even destroy he rock that was right next to them let alone shattering galaxies.The ground they were fighting was just as intact as before the fight.

Odin never destoyed a galaxy on panel.

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@monarch2016:

Collateral damage is a horrible way to measure power unless it is aimed directly at the environment with nothing else to absorb it

Blasts that Killed Thor,Hyperion and Gladiator didn't even destroy a moon yet we know they each have Moon+ durability

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@monarch2016:

Collateral damage is a horrible way to measure power unless it is aimed directly at the environment with nothing else to absorb it

Blasts that Killed Thor,Hyperion and Gladiator didn't even destroy a moon yet we know they each have Moon+ durability

It's true i can understand that the attack that killed Thor,Hyperion and Gladiator didn't destroyed anything because the blast hit them and it was not aimed at anything else,but the Odin and Seth fight is different.

Odin and Seth were blasting each other,aiming at each other and each other blasts never hit anything but them yet you want me to belive they shattered some galaxies located probably at some light years distance from the battle when they could't destroy the ground they were fighting.Not only that they didn't destroy the ground they were but it was almost intact.Plus it was never showed on panel that Odin or Seth were destroying galaxies,or even planets in that fight.

It's not like Odin fired a blast and Seth dodged and that blast went on and destroyed a galaxy.Based on the narrator they were blasting each other,they withstand and absorbed the full power of each others blasts yet somehow those blast shattered a few galaxies located light years away from the battle but the ground they were fighting didn't recived a single crack,it's impossible.

Odin never destroyed a galaxy on panel.

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Odin and thanos easily they might not compete in physical stats but will outsmart them & use some kind of hax (magic, tp)

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@monarch2016:

Odin's fight was Seth wasn't just a normal Slugfest

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@monarch2016:

Odin's fight was Seth wasn't just a normal Slugfest

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But but but, that's just the writer saying that, what does he know!?!? If the artist didn't draw it, it didn't happen! durrr

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#43  Edited By monarch2016

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@goldchamp101 said:

@monarch2016:

Odin's fight was Seth wasn't just a normal Slugfest

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But but but, that's just the writer saying that, what does he know!?!? If the artist didn't draw it, it didn't happen! durrr

The writer also said Odin is Omnipotent and we know that is not true.

Cell is more of a solar system buster than odin is a galaxy buster

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@monarch2016:

Odin is Omnipotent if you go by the definition that means "great power" But he's not Omnipotent like TOAA is

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@monarch2016:

Odin is Omnipotent if you go by the definition that means "great power" But he's not Omnipotent like TOAA is

Ominipotent is the quality of having unlimited power which Odin doesn't possess and means "all power" and not great power.

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#46  Edited By Goldchamp101

@monarch2016:

Certain definitions of Omnipotence (not all of them) just mean having great power and Odin has great power

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@monarch2016:

Certain definitions of Omnipotence (not all of them) just mean having great power and Odin has great power

Omnipotence means all power not great power but anyway.

I can understand that the writer referred to Odin as omnipotent to make the readers understant that he is very powerfull but he is not even nigh omnipotent let alone omnipotent.

Agree to disagree

Me and you put Odin on a different level when it comes to Odin actually being able to destory a galaxy seeing as he never showed that kind of power on panel.

In my opinion that feat is at least questionable if not completely inaccurate given the circumstances how that fight went on and ended and the fact that the fight didn't even destroyed a small rock that was near them let alone shattering galaxies located light years away from the battle.

The fact that Odin can or cannot bust a galaxy is irrelevant in this battle seeing as his team partner is far below both Prime and Monarch and he can't beat both of them at the same time.

I don't think Odin can take either of them one on one let alone 2 vs 1.

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#48  Edited By Spambot

@monarch2016: You really think a galaxy that's been shattered hasn't been destroyed? Odin being described as being omnipotent is more often then not something being said by a character on panel who are going to be more given to hyperbole than the narrator whose job it is to give perspective to what is going on in a panel or during a battle. The writer of that comic(who happened to also have been a long time Marvel writer and former eic which means he really knows his stuff) went out of his way to describe how big of a battle they were about to have and as I also mentioned above how the battle was literally being fought on all dimensions and how shockwaves from it were being felt throughout the universe. Then you have the fact that it was being fought at the roots of Yggdrassil for the exact purpose of amplying his power throughout the universe due to how its roots connect all through the cosmos and it makes perfect sense how shockwaves of their battle were being sent out to accomplish something like the writer explicitly states. Its completely different from a narrator or character describing Odin as omnipotent without any thing to back it up with. Its like the complete opposite of hyperbole given how the writer reiterated how the stakes in this fight throughout the comic and ones preceding it. We are told repeatedly that Seth is trying to destroy the universe and so this battle was literally meant to possibly decide its fate. I mean the fact you are even comparing these two things just tells me that a. you definitely did not read the actual comic for context and b. are just determined to believe that because you don't want to think of Odin as capable of busting a galaxy. I own that whole arc along and reread a lot of it for these posts so I could bring up exactly what went on both before and during that battle. When a narrator states something as fact while also making many other similar statements then they are easier to take at face value.

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Monarch2016

whether odin is a galaxy buster or not dsnt matter, he would still get beat by either prime or monarch who has universal level feats

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