MCU Punisher vs MCU Black Widow

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who wins

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We haven't seen the MCU Punisher do anything. So Widow due to feats.

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@danniesguy: I saw it. But I don't think he counts. Seems like they are rebooting the character with the Walking Dead guy.

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Stop it.

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@huthimamwa: stop trolling what do u want say it to my face

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We don't know anything about MCU Punisher for you to put him in a battle lets wait and see what he do when he comes

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Punisher hasn't even been in so much as an MCU trailer yet.

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Now that I think of it...I really want a revamped Punisher movie. But I don't think disney could pull it off.

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#12  Edited By huthimamwa

Go home.

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Widow, as of now

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Bump

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32 men...

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punisher FTW

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@g2_ said:

punisher FTW

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#19  Edited By huthimamwa

Punisher H2H. Widow with full gear.

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Frank stomps dat booty

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Widow stomps him. More skilled, Stealthier, Smarter, better physicals, better tech, etc etc. Frank doesn't hold really any advantage because brutality.

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#22  Edited By TheNaughtyTitan

@allstarsuperman said:

Widow stomps him. More skilled, Stealthier, Smarter, better physicals, better tech, etc etc. Frank doesn't hold really any advantage because brutality.

How so? I don't remember Widow displaying very impressive physicals, so logic dictates that Punisher has the superior physicals here...

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@thenaughtytitan: Oh yeah bro. Frank has a penis so he's more tougher then the lady who should be in the kitchen bro.

Widow took an explosion, a thirty foot fall, then a slap from the Hulk, back to back to back, then went on to out fight Hawkeye. Later in the Avengers she flips off a Chitari ship, falls like 50 feet onto gravel at high speeds, and is completely unharmed. In Age of Ultron his breaks through an Ultron Bot with caps shield. And in General she can one shot opponents with just punches. She a good bit above Frank in pure physical stats.

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@thenaughtytitan: Oh yeah bro. Frank has a penis so he's more tougher then the lady who should be in the kitchen bro.

Widow took an explosion, a thirty foot fall, then a slap from the Hulk, back to back to back, then went on to out fight Hawkeye. Later in the Avengers she flips off a Chitari ship, falls like 50 feet onto gravel at high speeds, and is completely unharmed. In Age of Ultron his breaks through an Ultron Bot with caps shield. And in General she can one shot opponents with just punches. She a good bit above Frank in pure physical stats.

There's no need to get defensive, Allstar. I just haven't paid close attention to her feats so it appears she's more impressive than I thought.

Frank has a penis so he's more tougher then the lady who should be in the kitchen bro.

Pointing out biological differences doesn't make me a sexist. I didn't recall Widow having many impressive feats is all, so from that I assumed you may be exaggerating her prowess. Logic does dictate that the larger male should obviously be more impressive physically, but that isn't always the case in fiction and it turns out that it isn't here. Sue me.

Widow took an explosion, a thirty foot fall, then a slap from the Hulk, back to back to back, then went on to out fight Hawkeye. Later in the Avengers she flips off a Chitari ship, falls like 50 feet onto gravel at high speeds, and is completely unharmed.

Some of this sounds a bit hyperbolic, but fair enough. She has the advantage in durability.

In Age of Ultron his breaks through an Ultron Bot with caps shield.

Probably the shield more than anything.

And in General she can one shot opponents with just punches.

That doesn't make her any more impressive than a regular human, tbh. Technique has a lot to do with this as well.

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Widow.

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@thenaughtytitan:

That doesn't make her any more impressive than a regular human, tbh. Technique has a lot to do with this as well.

We never saw Frank one shot anyone, IIRC.

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@allstarsuperman:

, falls like 50 feet onto gravel at high speeds,

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@thenaughtytitan: It's a weird angle and cut scene, but she's clearly higher then the 2 foot drop we actually see her land.

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#29  Edited By TheNaughtyTitan

@allstarsuperman said:

@thenaughtytitan: It's a weird angle and cut scene, but she's clearly higher then the 2 foot drop we actually see her land.

So from that we should infer that she fell 50 feet? I don't think so. At the most it was 10-15, but the speed does make it a bit more impressive. I don't really take it as a serious feat of durability though.

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@thenaughtytitan:

That doesn't make her any more impressive than a regular human, tbh. Technique has a lot to do with this as well.

We never saw Frank one shot anyone, IIRC.

In the very first episode he one-shotted a cop/security guard at the hospital. Other strength feats, if you haven't watched to episode 9-10 yet don't click the spoiler:

He knocked down Matt, hurt Kingpin while in cuffs and he broke a prisoners neck when he had him in a guillotine.

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Punisher and quite easy, Black widow's agility won't be much of a problem as daredevil pretty much the same style and it done him no favors.

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Widow makes Frank hurt, badly

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Long to mid range. Punisher has a BIG edge.

Within mid to point blank ragne (assuming everyone is fully in gear and armed) Widow will take him down impressively)

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#34  Edited By Amendment50

She's faster and presumably has better reactions when it comes to gunplay. At close range I don't think he could tag her. So, black widow pretty much no matter what the conditions are.

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H2H Punisher easy, with gears 50/50, but only because widow have better gears.

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h2h for me personally is a toss up. Matt fights similar to BW, and Frank seemed to be able to handle that fighting style. With full gear, I'd give the edge to Frank at long to mid range range. With full gear at close range, then Widow owns his ass

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Widow

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Punisher take this in H2H.

Black Widow take this with gear.

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Guns, electric batons, taser discs, garrotes, explosives, all of that is useless nonsense. Frank does a prison yard rush on Widow. Then goes on to take down the Hulk.

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Long to mid range. Punisher has a BIG edge.

Within mid to point blank ragne (assuming everyone is fully in gear and armed) Widow will take him down impressively)

^This

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Black widow took down a bloodlusted hawkeye, plenty of chitauri while managing to learn how to use their weapon against them, put down an aircraft in movement, plenty of trained guards, 4 armed hydra agents all at once in seconds, 3 guys while started tied to a chair, survived a bloodlusted winter soldier and managed to shot him in the eye from a big distance, i could sit here and type all of Nat's feats that shows she's overall better than Frank, but she just is.

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#43  Edited By Amendment50

Widow is way better. Frank MAY win a shootout with standard gear because he is most likely better armed... but in most scenarios Widow is winning with ease.

EDIT: Already answered this three weeks ago. Said almost the same thing. Lol.

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Punisher shoots her

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Punisher H2H, Widow mid range, Frank long range.

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Punisher is beating Widow in H2H? Come on now...

Widow stomps him. Far more skilled with better gear. She'll drop him in CQC and can just taser him before Frank even puts a hand on his guns.

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In H2H or CQC, Black Widow stomps. In mid-range, Black Widow. In Long Range, Punisher FTW.