MCU Daredevil, Elektra, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Punisher vs MCU Hawkeye, Captain America, Winter Soldier, Black Widow

who wins.. Random encounter morals on bloodlusted standard gear takes place on a NYC Street

Team 2

Daredevil and Luke could do it alone... If not individually solo

Team one is overrated imo

Team 2. Jessica might be the weak link here.

Team 2 has shown perfect teamwork on several occasions. Team 1 has no such applicable example yet.

@agencyagent34: wat. so daredevil or Luke cage can solo but their team is overrated?

@agencyagent34: What honestly makes you think DD or Luke Cage INDIVIDUALLY can solo? I haven't watched the show because I haven't found the time, but I've seen clips and a lot of threads with them in it. Maybe you would really have to watch the show to understand, but that's very farfetched and bold.... elaborate.

Team 2. Dare I say, in a stomp?

Luke and DD aren't soloing anything.

Team two.

Punisher is almost useless here with morals on. Cage is the last to go down but I'm not sure how.

Team 2.

-Perfect teamwork

-they have more feats

- WS and Steve are way more skilled than Jessica Jones and luke cage

- Natasha may tie (or with luck even defeat) Daredevil

- Hawkeye and Punisher would be a good fight

Team 2, and I just wanna say...poor Jessica Jones in this fight. >.>

Bingo.

Team 2 wins they would be much better teamwork Wise than team 1

Team 2 8/10. Better showing of teamwork and the Super Soldiers have better feats than the super-humans on Team 1. Putting Luke down might be a chore though.

Cap solos, Bucky solos.

@marvinjones: Neither of them are soloing.

They could, depends on Frank and Luke

in my personal opinon team 1 has a chance cause punisher is on it and can kill everyone cause he has a gun and others dont

@einnadyug:

At the risk of sounding like a DD wanker, I could see a Daredevil and Punisher team-up giving either a hard time if they play their cards right.

@marvinjones:

Half of team 2 also have guns as standard gear, and Hawkeye has a bow, regular arrows, and trick arrows. Cap is the only one his team without a high speed projectile weapon though his shield is more than good enough to compensate. Punisher is literally out-gunned here.

Team 2 but idk how they deal with Cage

Team 2 wins incredibly easily.

@agencyagent34: lol dude you are WAYYYYYYYY out of your league here and way off base with your post.

Team 2.

@cregan_stark: Yeah I don't know wth I was thinking when I made that

Sorry I can be an idiot at times

@peterrubiohard said:

@risingbean said:

Cap struggled with Batroc and Batroc <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Matt

You're quite the fool.

My comment was in response to that quote you falsely attributed to me.

I said

More like was blindsided and then proceeded to handicap himself and whup on Batroc. Who is more like Batroc<<Matt.

Also if you're gonna slow down the page with a bunch of useless gif's, use spoiler blocks. I'll have @sc explain forum etiquette to you.

I don't see how team two puts down Luke.

@captain_batman_ftw: Cap and Bucky have better strength and blunt force durability feats than Luke.

Yeah, but how are they going to put him down?

@captain_batman_ftw: Hit him? Choke him out?

Mismatch.

Well, I don't know if you've seen, but bullets from assault rifles were bouncing off of Luke.

@captain_batman_ftw: I've seen it. Keep in mind Ultron bots were shown to be bulletproof as well but Cap was still oneshotting them left and right. Of course I'm not saying Luke would get oneshotted, but his resistance to firearms isn't enough to say he's well outside of Bucky and Cap's capabilities of taking down. Especially not together.

Well, Hawkeye penetrated their shells with his arrows.

No, it's not, but it shows a certain durability. Regardless, I remember him easily walking out of a huge explosion, so I don't see how he could be hurt. Regardless, the dude was sending grown men flying simply by tapping them. We'd have to wait for some more feats, though.

Not saying Cap and Bucky can't completely contend, Cap still has his shield, but if it were to come down H2H, I don't think they'd be able to pull it off.

@captain_batman_ftw: Luke was KO'd by a shot gun blast to the head. A vibranium shield that flies fast enough to shred metal like butter will definitely generate enough force to do the same.

Okay. Sure.

Gtfo

Good feat for Hawkeye's arrows, that shows they're sharp enough to penetrate bulletproof enemies.

Resistance that isn't very relevant here. He walked out of an explosion that only destroyed the inside of his bar, and was still nearly killed by the concussive force of a shotgun at close range. Cap and Bucky's blows to his head will resonate a lot more than a close range explosion would, and Cap has tanked worse than that even.

Cap has sent grown men flying much farther with his barehanded blows, Luke sending some dude across a table by pushing them isn't comparable.

I don't see why either of them wouldn't be capable of this on their own, together it's not debatable.

@juiceboks: Okay, fair enough.

Team 2 slaughters

Team 2 should take this.

Luke Cage is easily the most resilient, and quite possibly the strongest here, but we do know that with sufficient force (shotgun blast to the head for example) he can be knocked unconscious and given serious internal injuries. Any member of team 2 can replicate that amount of force, save for Black Widow who can still stall him long enough with her ranged electroschock weapon. Cap and Bucky are both faster and more skilled than he is, while being strong and durable enough to contend, while Luke has no answer to the Hawkeye and Widow's range.

Punisher is the second most dangerous on team 1, but Winter Soldier can do everything he can and more.

Matt and Electra are both formidable fighters in their own right (Electra in particular I feel is underrated on the battle boards) but Widow has a very real chance at beating them both by herself.

Jessica is the weak link. She's notably stronger and more durable than the average person, but not enough to make up for her lack of any real fighting experience.

Overall, I'd give team 2 the win about (8-10)/10 times.

@peterrubiohard: You need to work on your counting skills

@captain_batman_ftw: @juiceboks: That's a common misconception actually. Hawkeyes arrows never penetrated the armor itself. The arrows passed between the gaps in the armor and damaged the delicate internal components. It's more a showing of Hawkeye's marksmanship than the power of his bow. (Hawkeye would need an insane amount of strength to pull on a bow with that much tension.)

@peterrubiohard: No problem

@mk39:

It hit their heads, not any openings. Regardless, their armors were made of platinum, IIRC. Fury called Ultron a platinum bastard before Ultron got covered in vibranium, so I'm sure these Ultron bots are also platinum.

Still Team 2.