Marvel Tourney: Spiderpigbart VS Lunacyde

 Team Spiderpigbart:
13-  Spider-Man – Pre-BND, Post-Other
7-  Ultimate captain America – Shield
5- Deadpool - Twin Katana, daggers, 2 grenades 
 
Team Lunacyde: 

Team: Lunacyde

5- Captain (Steve) - Shield

5 – Captain America (Bucky) – Shield, 9mm pistol

5- Daredevil – 4 Billy clubs

3- Winter Soldier - AK-47, Uzi SMG, 2 Desert Eagles, 2 Spetsnaz Combat Knives, kevlar vest

Add Ons:

 
1 – Silent, but deadly -Silences all the guns on your team

1 – We are one - Telepathic Link - Telepathically links your entire team.  NOTE: If a character on your team is struck by EMP, this is disabled for the entire team for the given time.

The Setting is at twilight.   The moon is rising and the sun is setting. Only the exterior of the island is on limit.   Entering buildings is not allowed.  The location is unpopulated.   If a character is knocked into the surrounding waters, they are considered eliminated via BFR.  I am Blue X, Luna is red.

 
Rules:

Um, may the best comic reading person win!

I am greatly intrigued by Luna's team...

I can't wait to see the strategy he sets up for them.

Luna, 
Which member of your team has the Muramassa?

" @spiderpigbart: Daredevil "

" @spiderpigbart: go ahead. "

" @Lunacyde said:

" @spiderpigbart: go ahead. "

Okay.  I have a map on my other computer that shows where I am going.  But thats on my other computer.  So I'll make due.  I will have Deadpool go straight forward as a distraction, seeing as he can take pretty much anything your team throws at him.  Spidey will go to the right, climbing onto the building and swinging over to the tower.  Cap will go to the left, using the buildings as cover.  They will meet up at the Red X and will, ya know, kick ass. "

" @spiderpigbart said:

" @Lunacyde said:

" @spiderpigbart: go ahead. "

Okay.  I have a map on my other computer that shows where I am going.  But thats on my other computer.  So I'll make due.  I will have Deadpool go straight forward as a distraction, seeing as he can take pretty much anything your team throws at him.  Spidey will go to the right, climbing onto the building and swinging over to the tower.  Cap will go to the left, using the buildings as cover.  They will meet up at the Red X and will, ya know, kick ass. "

Alright this is pretty basic. Daredevil will almost instantly recognize 2 out of your three team members nearly instantly. (Of course he won't recognize Ultimate Cap since he is from an alternate Universe). Daredevil has shown able to identify people from multiple blocks away using his enhanced senses so this should be no problem for him. He will be able to identify Spider-Man and Deadpool, telepathically directing the team in the direction of Ultimate Cap and himself engaging Deadpool. For now they want to avoid Spider-Man and eliminate his teammates.  Since there isn't an abundance of tall structures i don't see Spider-Man being able to effectively web-sling anywhere. This means he will have to move by foot, something that he isn't used to , and also effectively making his travel much slower. Taking this into account my team is going to move out as quickly as possible. Cap (Steve), Cap (Bucky) and Winter Soldier will attack Ultimate Cap, while Daredevil ambushes Deadpool.  Daredevil is armed with the M-blade which will negate Deadpool's healing factor. Without his HF Deadpool isn't going to last long in this match. Daredevil is an extremely skilled H2H combatant, and has shown exceptional ability with melee weaponry, including swords. His senses give him an even greater edge and the M-blade's mystical nature makes it very likely to penetrate anyhting Deadpool tries to block with, including his own katana.  Meanwhile Ultimate Cap is definately a tough target, but with three highly skilled members on my team we should be able to take him out rather quickly. If it comes down to it, one of the Bucky's should be able to take him down with an electric pulse.  From here my team focuses on Spider-Man. Due to my adavantage in numbers we can give him multiple opponents to have to take into account. Spider-Man has shown on occasion that he can have a hard time with skilled H2H fighters, and all of my team members are exceptionally skilled in H2h. Steve alone showed he was capable of hanging with Spidey in Civil War, with him, Bucky, and Daredevil with the M-blade up close, and Winter Soldier set up at range there is no way that Peter is going to survive this encounter. If need be, Bucky can hit him with an electrical pulse, momentarily incapacitating him and giving them time to properly eliminate him. "

Spider-Man should be able to use his web as a sort of zipline as apposed to swinging.

 Also, I doubt that DD would be able to take down Deadpool that easily.  DD doesn't really have morales and he wouldn't think twice about putting his sword into DD's head.

And I don't really thing that even the combined force of Bucky Cap and Steve Cap could take down Ultimate Cap.  Remember, this is the guy who incapacitated the Hulk in seconds.

 Civil War?  Don't remind me.  The only reason Cap won that fight was because the story line would have ended then and there.  

 Spidey's Spidey sense should warn him if his team is in trouble, and he could  get there easily.

He could dodge the M blade easy and take DD out with one hit.

 Spidey going on foot wouldn't really slow him down hugely.  I don't recall exactly how fast he can run, but it is about 70 mph or something.

 He would be forworned about anything about to happen to him, and possibly his team.   And I can always alter my plans.  That is just plan A.  Remeber in your thread?  I had about 50 plans then.  And remember, Deadpool is a distraction, a nonfactor.  I would continue but I have a few things to do.

yeah, it gives him a fantastic weapon and makes him even more of an asset for the team, all for 8 points.

" @Dane:@Power NeXus: What do you guys think of the debate so far? "

" @spiderpigbart:
 

Spider-Man should be able to use his web as a sort of zipline as apposed to swinging.

 
Could you give an example of when he has done this?
 

 Also, I doubt that DD would be able to take down Deadpool that easily.  DD doesn't really have morales and he wouldn't think twice about putting his sword into DD's head.

 
I am assuming you mean DP doesn't have any morals? What do his morals have to do with anything? It doesn't matter if Deadpool is willing to kill Daredevil when Daredevil is more skilled than him. Daredevil isn't going to just let Deadpool stick a sword in his head.
 

 

And I don't really thing that even the combined force of Bucky Cap and Steve Cap could take down Ultimate Cap.  Remember, this is the guy who incapacitated the Hulk in seconds.

 
The Hulk is a near-mindless brute with no fighting skill whatsover. How can you compare fighting three people ranked as 6's in fighting skill to someone with relatively no skill whatsoever?
 

 Civil War?  Don't remind me.  The only reason Cap won that fight was because the story line would have ended then and there.  

 
If it was that important to them they just wouldn't have had Cap face Spidey, it's as simple as that. That isn't the only occurance where Cap has held his own against Spider-Man.
 

 Spidey's Spidey sense should warn him if his team is in trouble, and he could  get there easily.

 
Since when? As far as I know his Spider-sense can only warn him when he himself is in danger. 
 

 

He could dodge the M blade easy and take DD out with one hit.

 
Not according to 30 years of comics where Daredevil has shown capable of at least hanging with Spider-Man.
 

 Spidey going on foot wouldn't really slow him down hugely.  I don't recall exactly how fast he can run, but it is about 70 mph or something.

 
I can't accept this stat unless you can give me some proof, or at least your source. I have never heard this before.  
 

 He would be forworned about anything about to happen to him, and possibly his team.   And I can always alter my plans.  That is just plan A.  Remeber in your thread?  I had about 50 plans then.  And remember, Deadpool is a distraction, a nonfactor.  I would continue but I have a few things to do.

  It doesn't matter because anytime you change your plans mine alter fluidly as well. "

Here is that image I mentioned, Spidey is A, Wilson is B, and Cap is C.  Deadpool throws his first grenade at the first dash and his second one at the second dash.

Hmmm.  I don't think DD will try to kill DP.  He doesn't often hit to kill.  By the time DD attacks DP, he will still have one grenade.   Dp should be able to hold back the M blade with his swords long enough to get the grenade, tackle DD, and shove the grenade into his mouth.   I doubt Winter Soldier and the Caps can take out Spidey, and what about Ultimate Cap?  

 Hmmm.  I don't think DD will try to kill DP.  He doesn't often hit to kill

 By the time DD attacks DP, he will still have one grenade.   Dp should be able to hold back the M blade with his swords long enough to get the grenade, tackle DD, and shove the grenade into his mouth.

I doubt Winter Soldier and the Caps can take out Spidey, and what about Ultimate Cap? 

" Hmm. This seems unresolved. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" Hmm. This seems unresolved. "

indeed  thats the last fight that requires a result,isnt it? "

" @Matezoide said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" Hmm. This seems unresolved. "

indeed  thats the last fight that requires a result,isnt it? "

I purposely kept my fight with K4tz still open, as well. "

Sorry about this, folks.  I've been kinda tied up with some things IRL.  But I can finish up here soon.   
 
 
@Lunacyde said:

" @spiderpigbart said: 

 Hmmm.  I don't think DD will try to kill DP.  He doesn't often hit to kill

 
Daredevil doesn't have to kill, he only needs to incapacitate Deadpool and thanx to the M-blade negating his HF that is perfectly possible. Daredevil knows the human body, and thanx to his training, years of experience and enhanced senses he has surgical precision with his strikes.
 

 By the time DD attacks DP, he will still have one grenade.   Dp should be able to hold back the M blade with his swords long enough to get the grenade, tackle DD, and shove the grenade into his mouth.

How is he tackling Daredevil without Daredevil taking him down? Trying to tackle him puts Deadpool in an extremely open and vulnerable position. Once again he shouldn't be able to do that to someone who outclasses him in skill and intelligence, and HAS A BLADE THAT IS ENCHANTED TO CUT THROUGH JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.
 

 

I doubt Winter Soldier and the Caps can take out Spidey, and what about Ultimate Cap? 

   I already explained this. "

" Sooo... is this going anywhere? Luna is back and everything, but still hasn't replied to this debate in a long time. He just said himself that this one should have been over a week ago. "

" @Power NeXus: Sorry about that.  I was going to wait for Luna's owning reply."

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" @spiderpigbart said:

" @Power NeXus: Sorry about that.  I was going to wait for Luna's owning reply."

I know. You're kinda dead in the water until Luna comes back. I'm just trying to tell Morph that this debate is obviously dead, since Luna has gone two full weeks without posting so much as a "Hey, I'm busy right now, but I'll get back to this as soon as I can". I think we should just declare you the default winner (since you were the last to reply before it died) and move on to the next round of the tournament. "

"@Power NeXus said:

" @spiderpigbart said:

" @Power NeXus: Sorry about that.  I was going to wait for Luna's owning reply."

I know. You're kinda dead in the water until Luna comes back. I'm just trying to tell Morph that this debate is obviously dead, since Luna has gone two full weeks without posting so much as a "Hey, I'm busy right now, but I'll get back to this as soon as I can". I think we should just declare you the default winner (since you were the last to reply before it died) and move on to the next round of the tournament. "

But then I'll get chewed out in that round too!!!  Unless I actually pay attention and give it as much go as my political debates..... "

" @Power NeXus: You're very modest."

" @k4tzm4n: In that case, I drop out.  I don't want to be shamed. "

" @spiderpigbart said:

" @k4tzm4n: In that case, I drop out.  I don't want to be shamed. "

....You knew going into this there would be voting, lol "

"Has voting begun here?  If not, just vote based on the current debate. "

" @Power NeXus:

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