Madara Uchiha vs Iron Man

For the sake of this battle, assume Iron Man has chakra.

who wins?

I'm going with Iron Man for now.

For the sake of following the rules, let's not seeing as how the OP isn't supposed to give characters certain powers/buffs that aren't available to them.

As far as the battle goes, couldn't Madara just BFR Tony into Kamui's dimension?

@carter_esque: Don't reply to the thread if you are not up to date or you don't know what you're talking about.

Madara does not have kamui.

By the by, chakra for Tony is not a powerup or ability.

@carter_esque: Madara has never had Kamui, ever. As I said before, if you aren't up to date please do not respond as the reply is useless.

Not sure what you're trying to prove with your second point lol? Exactly, it's useless to him, therefore it isn't a buff or powerup.

Well then why give him something he can't use? Does that make sense to you? Be honest..

@carter_esque: Madara technically has Izanagi, but he's never used it. It's an inherent Uchiha abilty. That's fine though.

I gave Tony chakra so that Madara's genjutsu would work, otherwise Madara couldn't use his full arsenal and it would be an unfair fight.

Well he doesn't have it and it's against the rules to give him any buffs inaccessible to his universe, esp. considering "why" you want him to have it in the first place... which is to give Madara a better chance.

Which armor version of Iron Man

@carter_esque@imthedamnbatman

The Battles board rules don't state anything about it being against the rules to give buffs that are inaccessible in their home universe. There are plenty of threads that do that. It's only giving characters ridiculous buffs that aren't allowed.

That said, OP needs to clarify which suit of armor Tony is wearing. Currently, I think he has the Space armor.

Going to drop this here before anyone else does..

Which armor is tony wearing, though?

We also need to know if it's Edo Madara or not since he is now alive.

I suggest these armors.

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if it's a stretch of assumption, fully revived madara is a lot stronger than edo madara because he has sage mode.

Madara wins this. He is too versatile.

Oh okay well if that's the case then Madara probably has this if he can use all of his hax abilities. I think that it kinda depends on which armor is being used too though.

@carter_esque I'm curious, what can Madara do? I'm not too familiar with Naruto. If he really is high-tier though, I guess Tony will need something like Extremis or the BE.

Madara.

@veshark: He's quite versatile.. I added the scan of mountain busting attacks above. He can also drop meteors:

(sorry if it's a spoiler, but I'm pretty sure you've seen this meteor thing around)

Though it isn't a very valid tactic for 1 on 1, it's still one of the coolest moments in shippuden.

Tony stomps. Nuke-like attacks kill Madara from heat alone. His forcefields are so much more powerful than any of Madara's attacks that he could just sit there and watch Madara expend all of his energy on his shields. Not to mention his armor.

I'm not too savvy with Iron Man's suits, I was just thinking he basic one? Not "specialized" in anything, just the run of the mill suit.

Also Madara is alive. Kyuubi summoning is restricted.

@darkraiden: Genjutsu GG

Wait limit Iron-man?

His best feats come form Extremist, while his best showing are in Bleeding Edge.

@mr_ingenuity: I've heard Bleeding Edge is pretty formidable. Let's go with that.

Madara stomps

if anything tony stomps

I haven't seen any suit of Tony's survive an attack of the calibur of @princearagorn1's scan (let alone multiple meteors).

Madara doesn't even use genjutsu in character. he went to the mountain slicing Susanoo and all of his other tricks before he tried it.....once. Plus he'd have to get it past Tony's sensors and his own TP defenses he has built into the suit. And he'd have to get past the forcefields and all of Tony's weapons....which he won't.

madara wins this, because if what itachi said is true, a combination of uchiha and senju means unlimited izanagi and izanami. though, there are not feats to support that statement. madara can still win with susano'o .

@sebast_allen: Depends on the Armor.

@carter_esque: he gave Tony chakra so Genjustus would work on him

@carter_esque: Chakra is the natural energy in your body. Iron Man has it if he's human.

Lets not debate about this whole chakra thing, guys.

The OP says Tony has chakra (for the sake of the battle). Tony has chakra; bottom line. The reason he said so was to avoid all this pointless banter. It is well within the CV rules, therefore no one here has the right to dispute that. If you don't approve, simply leave this thread.

Which verision of Madara are we using?

Edo Madara isn't fair because there is no way of Iron Man to win. We are talking about Madara in his Prime era Madara, he wouldn't have rinnegan. If we talking about the current Madara, he doesn't have sharingan can apparenlty use Susano'o.

That's going a bit too far. Iron Man has plowed from a mahattan sized rock from Terrax, once . Most of his current armors has surivied nuclear explosions, or even gravity of a city sucking black hole. Meteror could be avoived, the only way Onoki/Gaara got hit by it because they trying to save the alliance. Yes he has surivived attack from Madara' caliber before. WWH-Buster, Thor Buster also easily took attacks on the degree of Madara. He has adamantium argo suit that is could theorically withstand it. Bleeding Edge could take Thor, Ulik,

While I agree it's Madara should be able to win, I don't think it's a stomp on that degree.

Can't Iron Man tank nukes at 0.02% power? How does he not repulsor the sht outta Madara? And what can Madara even do to that? He's strong, don't get me wrong, but not tank nukes at .02% strong....

And how do we even know sharingan-based genjutsu will work when there's a screen of some sort between their gazes? That's like getting tagged through a TV...

@superbot400: I never said he hasn't survived an attack of that caliber, but that I haven't seen it (leaving room for someone who has seen such to inform me--so thanks for that). My subpoint was that, in the event that he has never displayed durability on that level, than this is indeed a stomp; seeing how meteor spam isn't even his full power.

You're correct: in his prime (vs. Hashirama)he didn't have a rinnegan yet. But he did awaken it before he died. And the current Madara is alive and well with a rinnegan, at the moment.

He definitely still has his sharingan techniques according to the latest Chapter 658.

I was wondering whether genjutsu would work behind Tony's helmet too. Probably not.

Shinra Tensei should be able to deflect his repulsors (which normal humans have tanked alone). I can't get an exact comparable estimate to 0.02% of a nuke but here's the best I got:

With all this math we can pretty accurately say that 0.02% of a nuke--capable of destroying 17,600,000 tons of rock--couldn't even destroy one percent of said (relatively and generously small) mountain. To quote a post from Answerbag:

"To put it in perspective if you drilled under said [10,000 ft tall] mountain and buried the biggest nuclear warhead ever made underneath and set it off, the mountain would barely quiver and there would be no noticeable release of radiation or heat to the environment."

Considering that Madara can slice a mountain in half with the residual force from the swing of his (perfect susano'o) blade. Tony's feat of "tanking" that nuke leaves him as nothing more fodder.

@odinsonnn: Madara hasn't shown to be able to use shinra tensei. Considering it's one of the most useful techniques we have seen in the series, he would've if he could've.

Other than that, it's not two mountains, it's two mountains+ that meteor which was beside him. (This scan also shows insane size of PS)

I know, that's why I think Madara has the advantage now although I still believe that it depends on which armor Tony has on.

@princearagorn1: I didn't even realize that the meteor was still there lol. Gotta appreciate the consistency in that writing.

And while I know that it is pretty close to "speculation" (which CV hates): He has the rinnegan, and he's used the Preta Path to absorb ninjutsu on multiple occasions--both of which indicate (not speculate) he has the ability to use shinra tensei: Deva Path.

As useful as it may be, ask yourself: has he ever really needed to use it? (The same can be said about the list of other techniques he has, but opts not to use.)

So I don't buy that "he would've if he could've" <---that logic applies to most ppl, but Madara isn't most ppl. He still hasn't shown his full strength (ie. had his back against the ropes).

@odinsonnn: oh He's quite consistent with his writing, recheck the details of juubi's super bijuu dama to see them.

But I have to disagree on the shinra tensei part, considering it's one of the most effective jutsu we have seen, and he'd have used it at least once if he had it. I think he will do so in the next chapter, though. This isn't some random technique, this is something that one-shotted konoha afterall.

Madara is out of Iron Man's league

Which one is faster?

@princearagorn1: Can you elaborate on the "details" you're referring to?

You disagree that he can use shinra tensei, but you believe that he will use it in the next chapter? Either you only choose to consider techniques with tangible showings, or you just seriously contradicted yourself. Your post says one of the two.

Maybe you don't get what I'm saying. Here's a list of some of the other most effective jutsu we've seen in the series that Madara should wield but hasn't used:

1. Amaterasu
2. Tsukuyomi (or any other genjutsu above the level of that which he used against the Raikage).
3. The six paths techniques (other than Preta path) granted by the rinnegan.

IMO the same can be said about these techniques. It is obvious that he possesses the ability to use these, but for one reason or another (he's way too strong for everyone, had Hashirama on his knees as he took his chakra, and has honestly no reason to go all out yet) he has chosen not to use them.

@odinsonnn:

Details, like: the destruction caused by juubi's tenpachi, or clearing made by eight tails whirlwind, or the mountains destroyed by naruto tossing the bijuu bombs around, and so on..

I'm not sure how madara should have either amaterasu or tsukuyomi. Those are both itachi's techniques, like koto amatsukami was shisui's.

Nor does simply having the rinnegan grant you the ability to use six paths techniques. Look at obito, for example. Considering the bijuu messed him up pretty badly, I think shinra tensei could have come pretty handy at the time.

I've never seen anybody from Naruto bust out a nuke-level attack, and Iron Man has tanked nukes, with shields.

@silverrings: which episode/chapter are you upto now?