Divine spawn is universal ? However i think lucifer
Luicifer without Micheal < Mxy
L + M < Mxy if you allow him toonforce.
Divine spawn is universal ? However i think lucifer
Luicifer without Micheal < Mxy
L + M < Mxy if you allow him toonforce.
@clownprinceofcrime1995: What? Just a question divine spawn is > lucifer morningstar o not ?
however i don't think absolutely that lucifer is less powerful than mister mxy, for me michael > lucifer > mister mxy
however, I do not think that the toon force is only of a few characters, like Mr. mxy, all the comics have some toon force, for example Hulk in reality had a tumor for gamma rays and he would not have changed, this is only one way to do make fascinating nuclear energy, as in the simpson radioactive man
Divine spawn is only universal so he's the least powerful.
Lucifer on his own is a tad stupid though, he can warp everything into anything but he has no actual power to create or destroy. Like Mxy can wipe everything and rebuild it or warp it into a rubber duck. Lucifer can't do all that. Plus Mxy has better imagination and the power to literally step out of the place they're fighting in, lucifer has to stay in where they're fighting.
ToonForce is for characters like Bugs Bunny and the Mask. They're basically impossible to get rid of. Normal characters don't have it.
@clownprinceofcrime1995: theoretically but also Lucifer is universal, however, he just can not handle the matter completely, he just lights up the stars,
in any case, I believe that lucifer is much more powerful than Mr. mxy,
instead I believe, but I'm not sure that Spawn is equal to lucifer, but what featsdoes spawn have ?
Mxy is insanely powerful and rivals M+L never mind just L.
Spawn is universal, Mxy and L are multiverseal minimum.
Going with Lucy, Mxy, Spawn.
Unless Mxy has his non-cannon/WF feats.
Mxy is omnipotent isn't he....Lucifer is nigh and spawn tooo...mxy can just take them out of reality
Mxy isn't omnipotent.
Lucifer convinces Mxy and Spawn to give up their power then kill themselves.
Or just beat down Mxy (Mxy should go down fairly easily)
And travel back to when Spawn is weaker and take him down then
@clownprinceofcrime1995: but what is the criterion to judge if one is universal or multiversal? In lucifer just about ever universe of the multiverse, only because he went out from the universe, does this make him multiversal? It did not make much sense
Because lucifer has power on a multiversal scale and spawn only had power in one universe ovet that universe
but it is not true, the idea of power multiversal is a false problem,
for example, if in a comic book universe, all of reality is called, and maybe the universe is infinite, while in another comic multiverse is finished, who is the greatest of course the infinite universe, but I do not understand what you deduce if one is multiversal or no bah
@sethlol: No, that's what spawn does to them...
@clownprinceofcrime1995: theoretically but also Lucifer is universal, however, he just can not handle the matter completely, he just lights up the stars,
in any case, I believe that lucifer is much more powerful than Mr. mxy,
instead I believe, but I'm not sure that Spawn is equal to lucifer, but what featsdoes spawn have ?
and since when is lucifer universal? he survived creation busting attack with any harm at all, used it to create multiverse, destroy mansion of silence where other creations existed.
so help me out how is lucifer universal?
Divine spawn is only universal so he's the least powerful.
Lucifer on his own is a tad stupid though, he can warp everything into anything but he has no actual power to create or destroy. Like Mxy can wipe everything and rebuild it or warp it into a rubber duck. Lucifer can't do all that. Plus Mxy has better imagination and the power to literally step out of the place they're fighting in, lucifer has to stay in where they're fighting.
ToonForce is for characters like Bugs Bunny and the Mask. They're basically impossible to get rid of. Normal characters don't have it.
1, thats the last thing he is....unless ur jking.
2, we both know he can warp anything, so that destroy bit is contradiction.
3, yes he can create but not on the same lvl, his creation would be universal.
4, Lucifer has alredy exited entirety of DC into the Void.
5,better imagination bit is opinion. Lucifer is no way wasting his time to fighting spawn. lucifer can step out of creation but not exit comic like mxy.
Mxy>>>>Lucifer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spawn.
@clownprinceofcrime1995: theoretically but also Lucifer is universal, however, he just can not handle the matter completely, he just lights up the stars,
in any case, I believe that lucifer is much more powerful than Mr. mxy,
instead I believe, but I'm not sure that Spawn is equal to lucifer, but what featsdoes spawn have ?
and since when is lucifer universal? he survived creation busting attack with any harm at all, used it to create multiverse, destroy mansion of silence where other creations existed.
so help me out how is lucifer universal?
Divine spawn is only universal so he's the least powerful.
Lucifer on his own is a tad stupid though, he can warp everything into anything but he has no actual power to create or destroy. Like Mxy can wipe everything and rebuild it or warp it into a rubber duck. Lucifer can't do all that. Plus Mxy has better imagination and the power to literally step out of the place they're fighting in, lucifer has to stay in where they're fighting.
ToonForce is for characters like Bugs Bunny and the Mask. They're basically impossible to get rid of. Normal characters don't have it.
1, thats the last thing he is....unless ur jking.
2, we both know he can warp anything, so that destroy bit is contradiction.
3, yes he can create but not on the same lvl, his creation would be universal.
4, Lucifer has alredy exited entirety of DC into the Void.
5,better imagination bit is opinion. Lucifer is no way wasting his time to fighting spawn. lucifer can step out of creation but not exit comic like mxy.
Mxy>>>>Lucifer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spawn.
1. I meant as a character not as in intelligence. They were made to be a pair.
2. Lucifer can warp but he can't just will something away. He has to will it into something else.
3. Void is still in the DC kind of bubble. Mxy has gone everywhere including MU
4, I have no idea why Spawn is in this he just gets wrecked by Mxy shoving something up his rectum
Lucifer > (Dream of Endless > Ultimator) > Mxy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Divine Spawn (he is overrated)
Lucifer stomps
No matter who said lucifer wins
Mxy have more powerful feats
Mxy is incredibly stupid and gets outsmarted by Superman on a regular basis. On the other hand, Lucifer is a master strategist and tactician.
Lucifer wins.
> Mxy have more powerful feats
Wrong.
Please show me better feats then existing outside of the comic books? Mxy in one of the scans provided they are shown to be so far outside of the comic book universe that he can visit ours, and then leave to some higher plane. Mxy is a meta character, most likely the most powerful of them all. Even the OOA was just a comic book writer....Mxy exists in a reality past even DCs GOD God reality. He can create and destroy the entire DC universe. If anything this is spite, Mxy could just leave the comic Lucifer is in, turn it into a sand which and eat it.
Mxy is basically omnipotent, probably the 2nd most powerful in comics after the overmoniter
Nope
@dcbicthes said:
Lucy > Mxy > Divine Spawn
Lucifer (he is above a group of multiversal+ characters, and at least 2 of them are able to beat Mxy) > > > Mxy (he is multiversal+ because he already destroyed a multiverse) > > > @PreRetconBeyonderGod (he never created or destroyed a multiverse but showed multiversal (not multiversal+) power) > > > > > > > Spawn (he is universal or universal+ at best)
Mxy is basically omnipotent, probably the 2nd most powerful in comics after the overmoniter
http://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/55271/1031730-733949_mxy2.jpg
> Mxy have more powerful feats
Wrong.
Please show me better feats then existing outside of the comic books? Mxy in one of the scans provided they are shown to be so far outside of the comic book universe that he can visit ours, and then leave to some higher plane. Mxy is a meta character, most likely the most powerful of them all. Even the OOA was just a comic book writer....Mxy exists in a reality past even DCs GOD God reality. He can create and destroy the entire DC universe. If anything this is spite, Mxy could just leave the comic Lucifer is in, turn it into a sand which and eat it.
> Please show me better feats then existing outside of the comic books?
> outside of the comic book universe
> Mxy in one of the scans
Nonsense.
@jeanroygrant said:
- Lucifer Morningstar.
- Mxy
- Divine Spawn
Either Spawn or Lucifer. Both of them receive their powers directly from an omnipotent deity (Lucifer being the Presence's son and Spawn merging with Man of Miracles). Either way, I don't see Mxy winning. People underestimate Spawn. He is nigh-omnipotent, not universal.
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