Who was the most feared and deadly opponent and gave Optimus the most trouble, and secondly who would win in a four way fight?
Lockdow vs Megatron vs The Fallen vs Sentinel
@petey_is_spidey: which version? Movie?
@petey_is_spidey: which version? Movie?
Yes.
Lockdown.
Also, did anyone else think that Lockdown was a little to big for his alternate mode. I was surprised a Lamborghini could take on a truck.
@petey_is_spidey: deadly opponent is Megatron due to him being in 3 out of the 4 movies ( his essence in the 4th so that basically counts ), whom he feared the most was prolly Sentinel due to the fact that he was another prime. In a four way fight Sentinel wins against, by movie standards those if u were to remove sentinel and replace him with idk Starcream and have a 4 way fight there, The fallen is suppose to win, but i have a hard time seeing that, due to the fact that Megatron handled OP in the first TF while Fallen IIRC wasn't doing much damage and wasn't winning. Anyway to shorten this up it is
Deadliest = Megatron due to his plans during the films and almost killing OP and has killed OP ( with plans and stuff )
Feared = Sentinel due to being another Prime
Who wins a four way battle = Sentinel followed by Lockdown/Megatron and then >>>>> Fallen
This is just my personal opinion but i could be wrong.
@isaacspider: yeah, but then again its bayformers their size can = anything XD
Most Feared-The Fallen should be the most feared but Movie 1 Megatron is
Most Badass- Lockdown
Gave Optimus the most trouble- Fallen shouldve given Optimus the most trouble but Sentinel Prime did
4way fight- Again, Fallen should win but I'd give it to Sentinel
Sentinel is the only one who can defeat The Fallen, supposedly. He's also the only one to handily beat Optimus in a h2h fight, so he is the deadliest and would win in a 4 way fight. Lockdown is the most feared opponent though.
@killerwasp: Wasn't OP in fusion form before he fought TF
@stormdriven Lockdown beat Optimus in a H2H fight
@thekilborne: i believe so, but during the movie TF repeatedly said IIRC that he needed prime dead, that only prime could beat him in combat, and this was without the fusion happening.
@stormdriven Lockdown beat Optimus in a H2H fight
Eh, it was relatively even until Optimus went and saved Cade. Sentinel had a clear advantage over Optimus though, to the point where Optimus couldn't really do anything and ended up losing his arm.
@thekilborne: He was fused with Jetfire but he was also fighting Megatron at the same time. I think it balances out
My opinion: Megatron was the biggest threat
Four Way Battle:
1. Megatron/ Sentinel Prime
2 .Megatron/ Sentinel Prime
3.Lockdown
4.Fallen
Based off feats and personal battles with Prime,not reputation(hence fallen being last
Fallen actually stomps. Sure his movie sucked but think about it. Prime had to be amped to beat him, while prime took at setinal while missing an arm. Megatron was really only a threat in the fist movie now he is a jobber. Lockdown didn't have much time imho.
@allstarsuperman: thas the point it was the movie version not the comic version, so he doesnt stomp anything
@killerwasp: he still stomps. He was the only one that prime had to be amped to fight.
@allstarsuperman: he doesnt stomp anyone he refused to fight until prime was dead, and sentinel is a prime IIRC and he was killing OP until Megatron cheap shotted him so that doesnt even matter. HE doesnt stomp anyone.
In theory, the Fallen should win. It took 6 other PRIMES to take him down, plus he has other crazy $#!t like teleportation, telekinesis, and the ability to fly without the aid of jet armor or a jetpack. Too bad he doesn't have the feats.
Also Lockdown was whooping Optimus's ass(stabbing him with his own sword and what not) before bumblebee and Cade jumped in. And even then he still through bumblebee aside like he was nothing. Pound for pound he's the best out of the four, seeing how small he is(a little bigger than bee), but still being able to man handle OP.
@allstarsuperman: Optimus was amped and he stomped the fallen and Megatron at the same time, that doesn't help your argument. We never got to see how regular optimus would've done but I doubt it would be different, the way optimus killed the fallen could be done with or without an amp.
Sentinel is the only one who beat optimus 1v1 and he woe by cutting of one of optimus's arms, not fighting optimus without an arm.
Actually Megatron beat Optimus in a 1v1 if you remember in transformers 1, Megatron had the upper hand during the ENTIRE fight. As for who would win it would probably be the fallen since he is op. But if we based it off fighting skills it would either be movie 1 megs, sentinel, or Lockdown.
Megatron destroyed Optimus in Transformers 1, but Optimus seemingly was amped to a significant degree following that movie. So yeah Megatron gave him the most trouble, followed by Sentinel. The most feared would probably be Sentinel though considering he was Optimus's teacher and all which gives him a psychological edge as well. The coolest was Lockdown though.
The Fallen > Sentinel Prime > Megatron > Lockdown.
The Fallen gave Jetfire Optimus Prime who had huge upgrades trouble and landed good hits.
@buildhare: well very old comment but he did died(with help teammate but to be fair Optimus did get distracted)
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