Lady Shiva VS Wolverine (read first)

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#1  Edited By jashro44

Lady Shiva

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Wolverine

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Rules

  • Wolverine does not have his adamantium or healing factor and cannot use his claws
  • Wolverine is fighting to the best of his abilities
  • Shiva is unarmed
  • Win by KO/Death/Incapacitation
  • Morals are off
  • random encounter

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  • Both begin visible
  • Begin 5 feat apart
  • Fight takes place here:
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Who wins and why?

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#2  Edited By AllStarSuperman

Lady shiva

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#3  Edited By TDK_1997

Logan's skills are never shown but he has trained in Japan for a lot of years and I think with his 300 years experience he has became even a better fighter.If he puts out that part in him that is one of the best martial artists in the Marvel Universe he will win.

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#4  Edited By crabtree

Wolverine wins.

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#5  Edited By Ddecourt

Lady Shiva. Logan dispite of his fighting experience he doesn't always fight smart, Lady Shiva on the other hand is very methodological. Not having his healing factor also makes this bout bad for him imo.

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#6  Edited By jashro44

@AllStarSuperman said:

Lady shiva

@crabtree said:

Wolverine wins.

Reasoning?

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#7  Edited By jashro44

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#8  Edited By WaveMotionCannon

Wolverine. Still stronger and faster and just as skilled.

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#9  Edited By nickzambuto

Siding with Shiva. Large gap in skill, and with Wolverine suddenly being without his H/F and claws, two things he's used to having in fights and has relied heavily on his entire life, he won't be on the top of his game. Even with time to get used to his newfound limitations, I don't think he has the skill to match his physical edge.

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#10  Edited By Hyperlight

@WaveMotionCannon said:

Wolverine. Still stronger and faster and just as skilled.

i agree.. probably potentially more skilled being so much older

@TDK_1997 said:

Logan's skills are never shown but he has trained in Japan for a lot of years and I think with his 300 years experience he has became even a better fighter.If he puts out that part in him that is one of the best martial artists in the Marvel Universe he will win.

i dont think he is that old... in the comics i believe he was born in the late 1800's

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#11  Edited By Ancient_0f_Days

He was vulnerable to nerve strikes with healing and adamantium claws.....Shiva being a master and having better feats consistently should win more handily than Mr X did

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#13  Edited By jashro44

@Ancient_0f_Days: The daredevil scan was from Garth Ennis marvel knights if I am not mistaken (I do know for a fact it was written by Garth Ennis), and he has stated he hates wolverine. So he is pretty biased. He is the same writer who has had wolverine lose to punisher.

Here is wolverine fight with Lord Shingen. Wolverine is not only poisoned but this was during the decade before wolverines healing factor got crazy. Shigne uses pressure points that would kill an ordinary man and wolverine is still standing after the first few. Echo also tried them and she failed to take him out with pressure points. If wolverine has his healing factor I don't think shiva could drop him which is why I took it away.

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#14  Edited By 14NC3

Realistically wolverine would win. He has 300 years of experience in martial arts and is one of the top fighters in the marvel universe. His showings of fighting skills has been pretty inconsistent, but as the OP says both characters are at the top of their abilities so its wolverine for me.

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He was vulnerable to nerve strikes with healing and adamantium claws.....Shiva being a master and having better feats consistently should win more handily than Mr X did

Wolverine has knowledge on pressure points as well, so he could do the same to lady shiva. The second scan isn't showing his knowledge on pressure points but it shows that he has knowledge on what parts of the body he should strike.

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#15  Edited By SSJLozza

Lady Shiva snaps his neck like a twig, she's a far superior martial artist and without his adamantium and healing factor he can never compete with her skill, which is at the very least comparable to batmans.

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#16  Edited By jashro44

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:

Wolvie

Reason?

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#17  Edited By FourthDeity

Logan takes this

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#18  Edited By Sethlol

Lady Shiva.

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#19  Edited By TDK_1997

@Hyperlight: Still enough to beat Shiva.

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#20  Edited By Stronger

@WaveMotionCannon said:

Wolverine. Still stronger and faster and just as skilled.
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#21  Edited By saiyan_earthling

Wolverine should still be able to win given the fact that he's been training and fighting for over a century, so he's used to fighting different types of fighters. Although Shiva would give her a very hard time.

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#22  Edited By WaveMotionCannon
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Lady Shiva snaps his neck like a twig, she's a far superior martial artist and without his adamantium and healing factor he can never compete with her skill, which is at the very least comparable to batmans.

Not hardly. With over a 100 years combat experience under his belt, and knowledge off off world techniques and superior physical stats Logan can definitely win. Also unlike Batman , Logans actually LIVED LONG ENOUGH to master the styles he's supposed to know.
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#23  Edited By Cochise

This fight could go either way. Of course, this is a horribly nerfed version of Wolverine...

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#24  Edited By Smart_Dork_Dude

I think Shiva can take him

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#25  Edited By dondave

Lady Shiva ftw

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All wolvie's skills and move sets rely on his tanking ability and his claws.

Without it the skill level goes down too,

Shiva for the win.

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#30  Edited By Cable_Extreme

Lady Shiva wins this

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#31  Edited By ForeverEvil

i was going to say that i dont know much about shiva so wolverine wins but that'd be stupid. i caught myself picking up other viners traits. I'll do what most viners SHOULD do and say i dont know who wins until i educate myself better on shiva.

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#32  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

Shiva 6/10 people really underestimate Logan's h2h skills.

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Shiva 6/10 people really underestimate Logan's h2h skills.

Agreed. Shiva does take the majority, but it's nowhere near a stomp.

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I hear all about Logans skills, yet I don't see him use them that much. Not saying he doesn't do it a lot, as seen in the picture above, but I would have to see a lot more of his skills to say he wins. Just saying he is one of the best doesn't mean he should win.

I would say Shiva until I see more scans.

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Bump.

Wolverine wins.

He has comparable skill, coupled with a stat advantage and higher pain tolerance.

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Logan

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Wolverine

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#39  Edited By AllStarSuperman

I've been on this website for too god damn long.

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Shiva for a majority. Logan has skill, but rarely needs to use it, Shiva on the other hand, always uses it.

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#41  Edited By jay_z94

Shiva for a majority. Logan has skill, but rarely needs to use it, Shiva on the other hand, always uses it.

How is this even relevant when the OP literally states that Logan is fighting to the best of his abilities?

what confused idk huh adam scott GIF

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@jay_z94: Quantity of high-end feats. Simple as that.

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Logan. He is still stronger and more durable, with possibly faster attack speed. Then his skill on his good days is easily comparable, if not flat out better.

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Logan.

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#45  Edited By Vertigo-

From what I've seen of Logan, even if we accept that Shiva knows all of Earth's martial arts, we know that Logan does as well, considering that he's a 7 in Marvel handbooks (at least in the entries that I've seen) and is noted to have mastered "virtually every fighting style on earth". Furthermore, we know that Logan has actually mastered some alien martial arts as well, which would put his known martial arts beyond anything I've seen of Shiva. I'm not entirely sure who wins, but whomever does is in for the fight of their lives.

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@jay_z94: Quantity of high-end feats. Simple as that.

That didn't answer my question. What's the point of saying that Logan doesn't use his skill when the OP says he is fighting to the best of his abilities?

Even then, Logan consistently uses skill against skilled opponents when he has to.

Are you saying that Logan or Shiva have a high quantity of high end feats?

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From what I've seen of Logan, even if we accept that Shiva knows all of Earth's martial arts, we know that Logan does as well, considering that he's a 7 in Marvel handbooks (at least in the entries that I've seen) and is noted to have mastered "virtually every fighting style on earth". Furthermore, we know that Logan has actually mastered some alien martial arts as well, which would put his known martial arts beyond anything I've seen of Shiva. I'm not entirely sure who wins, but whomever does is in for the fight of their lives.

Both are very skilled as you've pointed out. What put's Logan over the top for me is his stat advantage and higher pain tolerance.

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Shiva punked Batman in two moves.

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Logan has beaten both Shang Chi (Twice) and Iron Fist, who are arguably the best fighters in the Marvel Universe.

Even so, i'm leaning towards Shiva, who wins after a long fight.

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Logan.