No prep.
Morals off.
Random encounter.
Thor has the belt of strength, Prime has his Anti-Monitor armor.
Battlefield: A deserted planet near a yellow sun.
No prep.
Morals off.
Random encounter.
Thor has the belt of strength, Prime has his Anti-Monitor armor.
Battlefield: A deserted planet near a yellow sun.
I guess I'll start.
Prime has the edge in speed, seeing how he is capable of punching 3 Flashes before they can react.
He was capable of beating the tar out of Sodam Yat infused with the power of ION.
And he was ripping Lanterns apart with ease whilst engaging Superman & Power Girl.
And no-selling blasts from 3 Oan Guardians directly afterwards.
He was able to fly through the core of the Anti-Monitor and he withstood the anti-matter energies without a scratch.
The same energies that fried a Guardian.
As shown here, Prime is shot by planetary level Green Lanterns after beating ION down and it barely catches his attention.
Your turn.
I love how everything is in Superman's favor, d: Regardless I will respond thusly!
Superman's resource for his power is akin to that of the sun; meaning either Mjolnir or the Odin Force could speak to Thor and tell him the weakness of Superman; the Sun. King Thor, should be able to pull off a decisive victory after draining Superman of his resource, which he has done in the following scans:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...eatAnnual14.jpg
Thor is capable of tanking Sun level attacks; theoretically, would Superman's sun manipulation of a singular star be enough to even hurt Thor?
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...nergyJIM103.jpg
Thor tanks the blast of an exploding star and is un-fazed. Bear in mind this is Classic Thor and we are discussing a version of Thor that is much more powerful; past Odin Force Thor to near Odin level to be exact; meaning this feat can be amplified many times. It's also been stated that a Odin Force Thor is capable of tanking anything that would kill a normal Thor.
A demonstration of a massive feat that proves any energy Mjolnir absorbs can be amplified and blasted back at the opposition ten fold. Superboy primes maximum capacity is that of a singular star, Mjolnir can easily amplify this to the enormous power of a star 10x bigger. Also, to finalize my argument, Thor can even manipulate the energy in such a way as to blast it back even 100 fold!
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...orptionv222.jpg
As a summary, if Superboy prime is in-able to re-energize himself via sun manipulation, how can he hope to contend with Thor? He would begin at 100% capacity to gradually succumb to 0% as the battle wears on. The Odin Force & Mjolnir would be sufficient in finding out Superboy primes weakness, the sun.
I predicted you bringing up Thor's ability to destroy the sun and drain Prime. Luckily, the Anti-Monitor armor counters that effect by constantly feeding him yellow sunlight.
Thor withstanding a star level attack doesn't compare to Prime tanking the galaxy level explosion of the warworld battery.
Mjolnir absorbing radiation blasts won't be of much use in this match, since Prime's attacks do not rely on such energy.
Shown here, Prime is able to fight without any sunlight at all.
Captain America's punches were actually moving Thor, just imagine what Prime could do.
Not to mention that Thorbuster Iron Man was holding his own against King Thor for quite a while.
http://s165.photobucket.com/user/Galan007/media/im_thor6.jpg.html
Not to mention Prime killed Bronze Age Earth 2 Superman at the end of Infinite Crisis.
I do not believe it is entirely 'fair' to compare some low end feats to others; seeing as many different authors work on the same character, and at times, 'will', contradict each other. Also is my understanding that Superboy Prime was taken down by two Superman. Also,Superboy Prime is immune to kryptonite, but not to the radiation of a red sun; however he was shown to resist the effects of an artificial red sun. Kal-El & Kal L defeated Prime by flying him directly into Kypton's red sun; therefore destroying his Armour and diminishing his powers in the process. So what does Thor have to do? Teleport both of themselves into the power of that exact same Sun, or another that is of it's equivalent.
Thor is able to teleport with Mjolnir
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...leportation.jpg
He teleports Warriors Three to Asgard from the edge of the Universe.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...ortation185.jpg
Here we see that it was definitely across the entire Universe; proving it's ability is virtually limitless.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...tationFF338.jpg
Thor opens a cosmic rift and exposes the face of the Sun, a feat which he can repeat with the power of a Red Sun.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...VortexMCP63.jpg
We have now proven that Thor does not merely have to teleport himself and Superboy Prime, together; rather he could simply teleport Superboy Prime himself into the Red Sun and defeating him entirely. Or expose him to the likes of the Sun and render him and his armour useless and simply batter him until death.
@dondave: yeah it is.
Prime should be able to blitz Thor before he can use BFR to win. In space during Infinite Crisis, he was able to outrun all these Green Lanterns. And we all know how fast Green Lanterns are in space. And he also outran Bronze Age Superman in the same comic.
Prime should also be able to tank a lot of what Thor can throw at him, since Prime has shown a high immunity to magic.
The only reason Prime was defeated by those 2 Supermen was because he was drained of his powers. Before the red sun dip, he was pounding both of them and laughing.
During his fight with Monarch, Prime withstood a universal level explosion. One could raise the argument that Prime was amped, but Monarch himself said that the amp was gone right before Prime tore open his armor.
To my knowledge, King Thor doesn't have the feats to suggest that he's even galaxy level. In Sinestro Corps War, Prime withstood the galaxy level warworld explosion without any problems at all.
@dondave@allstarsuperman We try, we try. ;)
@dondave@allstarsuperman We try, we try. ;)
Lol
Should the voting begin @nozark?
Thor can put the sacred hammer on superboy and he won't move I don't think he'll be worthy to pick it up
@what_diick: If he can catch him.
@bronze_surfer: mjolnir can manipulate gravity.... He increase the gravity around superboy and he's stuck and if mjolnir can shatter the armor of celestial then he's bound to shatter the anti monitor armor on superboy.... And superboy can't destroy it because quote from marvel wiki "no power in the universe but the All-Father's could affect Mjolnir"
@what_diick: We can debate this after voting starts.
Prime blitzes Thor before the thought of gravity alteration crosses his mind.
We will continue this after the voting, which I assume begins now.
I was ready to argue against the speed of Superman; which is what I've seen you argue in previous Superman verse Thor threads.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/146504/2885629-superman_v_darkseid.jpg
Here we see Darkseid actually hitting Superman in the face. If Superman is such a speedster, why would he let himself get hit? Especially so hard. e.e....
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9166/supermanterriblereactio.jpg
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9166/supermanterriblereactio.jpg
& Here we see he isn't able to catch bullets; merely out-pace them. He admit's himself that he isn't fast enough.
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5568/supermanspeed.jpg
Here we see that only his travel speed nears the speed of light; not combat speed.
Thor has demonstrated he is able to travel three times the speed of light.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...rSpeed01185.jpg
Mjolnir will always return to Thor's hand.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...ir02-Return.jpg
Mjolnir can 'will' itself towards it's target.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...danceJIM097.jpg
Drax with the power gem is in-able to stop Mjolnir's path.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...entInfinity.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/52246/1625072-thor_202.jpg
Mjolnir's path of travel also varies greatly; it can 'will' itself to it's directed targets, in this case, Superman.
Mjolnir has traveled to the end of the galaxy and back in under sixty seconds, meaning whatever speed Superman is capable of, Mjolnir is greater.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...theGodsWoul.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/52246/1608652-thor_vs_quicksilver_01.jpg
Thor has been shown to out-pace the lightning he controls.
In regards to Superman's raw strength, here are several scans I have managed to come to across.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/9/98379/2109774-qq__20111202225150.png
Superman can barely move the planet.
http://imageshack.us/a/img838/5347/warworld.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img442/84/warworld2.jpg
This is Superman after a sun dip; after he moved a planet about the same size as pluto; Bainiac states Kal cannot move more than that.
http://imageshack.us/a/img407/6224/supermanmoon.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img100/7656/supermanmoon2.jpg
Here Superman, with some help, are in-able to move a planet.
In regards to Thor not being able to tank anything Superman can dish out at him, these are all classic Thor feats.
Again, there is a scan of Odin Force Thor saying that 'If it were not for the Odin Force, he would surely be dead' We are discussing a version above this, meaning that if King Thor, commingled with the Odin Force could easily tank Galaxy Level attacks, even approaching Universal. Odin himself, was able to battle and destroy galaxies in the process; Classic Thor has tanked this. Durability here, is not an issue for King Thor. As a lasting finalization, King Thor's mightiest edge over Superboy Prime is his 'Time Stop'
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/146104/2844282-kingthor01.jpg
Mjolnir's also been used to stop time in localized areas several times. The first time he does it, he stops all time from passing in a house to save Jane Foster in
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...anipulation.jpg
However, Mjolnir's time powers weren't just limited to time travel. He's used Mjolnir to reverse time itself in
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...meTravel178.jpg
As a summary, Thor has to many tools as his disposal to end this battle. Superboy has been defeated by the likes of a Red Sun, Mjolnir is capable of opening a dimensional rift to expose this to Superboy, weakening him. Or he can use Mjolnir to teleport Clark Kent to the Red Sun itself, if he merely wishes it. Or, he can tank attacks from Superboy until he can merely stop time or reverse it, and than end the battle via Mjolnir hits. Also, Thor can simlpy throw Mjolnir at Superman, and wait until it hits. Superman is NOT, out-pacing Mjolnir. At the end of the day King Thor wins.
@logy5000: king Thor is also omnipotent
[IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/9itv9g.jpg[/IMG]
@logy5000: king Thor is also omnipotent
[IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/9itv9g.jpg[/IMG]
Thats not King Thor, that Rune King Thor, not to mention the word omnipotent isnt mention once, and we have Thor wondering what to do next.
Not sure how that was applicable... O_o.
@nozark: Excellent.
Let the voting begin.
Oh it begins? Alright I'll say about my concerns
There was proboably a couple other mistakes but too lazy to look at. In the end I don't know who to vote for in the end.
Oh and this.
As a summary, Thor has to many tools as his disposal to end this battle. Superboy has been defeated by the likes of a Red Sun, Mjolnir is capable of opening a dimensional rift to expose this to Superboy, weakening him. Or he can use Mjolnir to teleport Clark Kent to the Red Sun itself, if he merely wishes it. Or, he can tank attacks from Superboy until he can merely stop time or reverse it, and than end the battle via Mjolnir hits. Also, Thor can simlpy throw Mjolnir at Superman, and wait until it hits. Superman is NOT, out-pacing Mjolnir. At the end of the day King Thor wins.
In the end, this seemed like a "Let me put this feat up". Some of which were irrelevant and there wasn't much countering, just putting up feats.
Superboy-Prime, just a tactical choice I think. Very close tbh. And also one of the best battle threads I have seen. Both sides have pointed out all the feats and we now decide!
BTW Superman Prime (DC 1 mil) is omnipotent and is second to THe Spectre. Whoever said he's weak must have been describing some other version of Supes. His abilities are enhanced beyond the cosmic to the Godlike. He lived in Sun, he trained and gained abilities from teh cosmos for centuries, and then finally went beyond the Source Wall and gained power from it becoming a New God. He does not need the sun anymore and can blow realities and universes away with his godlike-breath....
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