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Poll JSA Team vs Marvel Team (25 votes)

JSA 52%
Marvel 40%
Too close to call 8%

JSA:

  • Jay Garrick
  • Alan Scott
  • Wonder Woman
  • Red Tornado
  • Captain Marvel
  • Obsidian
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Marvel:

  • Blue Marvel
  • Hyperion
  • Thor
  • Sentry
  • Hulk (Cho)
  • Ms. Marvel
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Rules:

  • Fight is until death, incapacitation, or submission
  • No bfr
  • No prep
  • Random encounter
  • Standard gear and equipment
  • Sentry is nerfed (see below)
  • Fight takes place on a deserted island somewhere in the Pacific during the day
  • Start 500 feet apart - visible

Sentry:

  • No Void
  • No Death Seed
  • No molecule manipulation
  • No healing factor

Who wins?

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Just a suggestion if you are going to nerf characters so badly, just replace them altogether. With that being said, under current conditions, JSA.

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Just a suggestion if you are going to nerf characters so badly, just replace them altogether. With that being said, under current conditions, JSA.

Well, I figured sentry is still tough enough to do damage, and I'm sure @krleavenger would make an argument for that. Plus, I feel like the Marvel team has some more overall heavy hitters.

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Jay removes their speed at the beginning of the fight = Win by Incap.

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Wonder Woman hasn't ever been part of the JSA unless this is Hippolyta, but the the JSA wins considering marvel only has two real powerhouses, Thor and (I guess) Sentry and no counter for Obsidian either.

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Depends on the Version of Alan Scott.

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Jay turns them all to statues right out of the gate

Then Diana and Alan can just easily clean house while whistling some tunes

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Avengers.

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@depinhom: @green_skaar: Even without most of Sentry's powers he is still very powerful. He is still above Hulk even without those powers and without Death Seed and Void. He can travel Faster than light, gets beaten up by WWHulk and asking for more while not being at his best, and shockwaves of his punches can bust planets as well as his energy projection. As for scans if you want.

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@depinhom: @green_skaar: Even without most of Sentry's powers he is still very powerful. He is still above Hulk even without those powers and without Death Seed and Void. He can travel Faster than light, gets beaten up by WWHulk and asking for more while not being at his best, and shockwaves of his punches can bust planets as well as his energy projection. As for scans if you want.

I predicted as much. Thanks.

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#13  Edited By depinhom

It seems that voting is not popular with polls. There are many comments and opinions here, but only 4 votes as of yet. Odd.

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@depinhom: @green_skaar: Even without most of Sentry's powers he is still very powerful. He is still above Hulk even without those powers and without Death Seed and Void. He can travel Faster than light, gets beaten up by WWHulk and asking for more while not being at his best, and shockwaves of his punches can bust planets as well as his energy projection. As for scans if you want.

Without regeneration Sentry and Hulk are severely handicapped. I'm very aware of Sentry's feats, thank you.

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@green_skaar said:

Without regeneration Sentry and Hulk are severely handicapped. I'm very aware of Sentry's feats, thank you.

I would still put Sentry above. Lifting strengh is equal. Durability probably is Hulk's advantage but Sentry's striking power and energy projection >>>>>> Hulk. Sentry's speed >>>>> everything Hulk has (although that didn't stop Hulk from tagging him beofre).

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I predicted as much. Thanks.

No problem. You don't think I'm a Sentry troll? I mean I never called him Multiversal and anything.

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@green_skaar said:

Without regeneration Sentry and Hulk are severely handicapped. I'm very aware of Sentry's feats, thank you.

I would still put Sentry above. Lifting strengh is equal. Durability probably is Hulk's advantage but Sentry's striking power and energy projection >>>>>> Hulk. Sentry's speed >>>>> everything Hulk has (although that didn't stop Hulk from tagging him beofre).

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I predicted as much. Thanks.

No problem. You don't think I'm a Sentry troll? I mean I never called him Multiversal and anything.

What do you mean? Why would I think you a troll?

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#17  Edited By green_skaar

@green_skaar said:

Without regeneration Sentry and Hulk are severely handicapped. I'm very aware of Sentry's feats, thank you.

I would still put Sentry above. Lifting strengh is equal. Durability probably is Hulk's advantage but Sentry's striking power and energy projection >>>>>> Hulk. Sentry's speed >>>>> everything Hulk has (although that didn't stop Hulk from tagging him beofre).

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I predicted as much. Thanks.

No problem. You don't think I'm a Sentry troll? I mean I never called him Multiversal and anything.

You are missing the point, I'm not comparing Sentry to Hulk, I'm stating there is no regeneration in the OP's rules, which severely hampers both, since they rely on their regenerative factor.

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@green_skaar: Oh right sorry didn't understand what you ment. Well yeah healing factor is huge advantage.

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What do you mean? Why would I think you a troll?

Because of a lot of Sentry fanboys who are saying he is Multiversal/Universal not only that everybody started to hate Sentry but nothing people said about him was taken seriously. Which is stupid because even tho charcater is overrated he has his own Power Set.

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@green_skaar: Oh right sorry didn't understand what you ment. Well yeah healing factor is huge advantage.

@depinhom said:

What do you mean? Why would I think you a troll?

Because of a lot of Sentry fanboys who are saying he is Multiversal/Universal not only that everybody started to hate Sentry but nothing people said about him was taken seriously. Which is stupid because even tho charcater is overrated he has his own Power Set.

I get you. No, you are not a troll.

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@depinhom: Thnaks. Of course I'm not. Everything I said is a fact.

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JSA stomp

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Garrick seems like a strong contender but I don't know enough about him.

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I though the JSA had wild cat

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@depinhom: Obsidian and Alan are enough to win handily. The rest make it a stomp

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I though the JSA had wild cat

Oh, yes, they have many more. But I've only put in higher tier characters here.

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@undefined: Diana gives the JSA thier best hopes of winning but Sentry can match Mr speed freak and take him out . Thor will take out marvel in a good fight. Slight edge here to the marvel team

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Under these conditions JSA stomp kinda hard.

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@undefined: Diana gives the JSA thier best hopes of winning but Sentry can match Mr speed freak and take him out . Thor will take out marvel in a good fight. Slight edge here to the marvel team

I'm sorry but, Sentry can match Jay?

Also, nobody here has a counter to speed steal, which Jay can do, and has done on panel to superman

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@undefined: Diana gives the JSA thier best hopes of winning but Sentry can match Mr speed freak and take him out . Thor will take out marvel in a good fight. Slight edge here to the marvel team

How is Diana their best hope when Todd, Alan and Jay would beat her?

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@blackestnight93: Not that I know of. But JSA stomp though. OP should add Silver Surfer for a closer fight

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@depinhom: damn... how old is the comic that the scan is from? looks long before my time lol

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@blackestnight93: Yeah. But she is in the JSA Omnibus that I have, so technically she was once part of them. Even if it was eons ago.

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@depinhom: from the looks of it, it looks to be like 1940's (the whole "allied victory" thing sounds like ww2). No wonder I had no idea

But yes, you are technically correct, the best kind of correct lol

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@depinhom: They need more firepower and Surfer would easily balance it with him being debatable of beating either Alan or Todd

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team THOR. THEY ARE MORE POWERFUL AND VERSATILE

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No Dr. Fate?

Shame on you, OP.

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@blackestnight93: oh I know speed steal will be activated and will work no question there but I do not think its an autonwin by any means. People less powerful then these have beaten them. As for counters Mjolnir is immune to any speed steal and is faster then anyone here and once it hits it will change the game. Plus most of team marvel has flight the whole team won't be affected by speed steal. Will it impact absolutely but still a far cry from a win. Plus his durability when hit isn't as good as the others. So I give him one speed steal but he gets taken out after that. Also sentry I stated as an example since he is fast too and much more powerful. If he takes out sentry somehow its a plus for his team but some one else will take him out after via blast Odin enchanted hammer etc..

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@reaverlation: I said that because Diana is the most durable on her team and is a better fighter and leader. She is the one that can rally her team. That was my reasoning lol

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@destinyman75: Jay isn't a glass cannon, he can take hits from Black Adam and Zoom just fine.... don't go lowballing him. Also, Mijolnir isn't a character in this battle, it's a weapon for crying out loud. When Jay speedsteals Thor, the hammer will remain in his hand, useless. Also, it isn't like Jay has to stop in order to speed steal someone you know...

Jay is massively faster then pretty much everyone here and can speedsteal them all in a nano second

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How are team Marvel winning the polls..

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How are team Marvel winning the polls..

my question exactly...

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@blackestnight93: Lol sorry not low balling herem. Thor can actually control Mjolnir even when frozen by his will it is a nifty ability. Yes he is crazy fast bit he isn't speed stealing everyone wouldn't happen that way in the comics either. That's how In see it playing out at any rate