Obi-Wan / Aayla Secura / Kit Fisto / Plo Koon
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Obi-Wan beats Maul for a majority, and im confident Ploon, Alaya and Kit would be able to at least hold Dooku off until Obi-Wan is done with Maul
The Jedi have too much of a power edge, and we've already seen Dooku handle more skilled teams of opponents 2 v 1 and Maul has already KO'ed Aayla and can handle any combination of these guys.
The Sith should handle themselves well in sabers and can easily stomp their opponents with the force.
I think The Jedi can win. Obi-Wan was able to beat Maul, and Plo Koon is said to be one of the most powerful Jedi ever. Good fight, though.
Kenobi isn't beating Maul. Not when Maul still boasts a telekinetic advantage and rivalling skill. He's also taken Aayla out while fighting a superior foe than Kenobi(i.e. Windu) and Dooku can handle any duo the Jedi team brings.
@erkan12: Close fight. Probably goes to Maul and the Count.
@wollfmyth209: You say that Kenobi is more skilled then Maul?
@darthduelist9: He could be, but they're more than likely equals.
@wollfmyth209: Why would they be equals? We have only seen them fight two times, in one case Kenobi admitted he was outmached while in the other they only dueled for a limited amount of time. So I have no idea why they are suddenly equals unless of course Mace Windu is an equal to General Grievous or Assaj Ventress to Plo Koon.
@darthduelist9: They are equals, or comparable, due to Kenobi already being close to Maul in terms of skill by late TCW, and we know he improved up until RotS. So, obviously, they are equals or extremely close to one another.
@wollfmyth209: TCW Kenobi being close to Maul is again based on the limited time they fought? Not to mention that Maul himself admitted that he never intended to kill Obi-Wan and Obi-Wan's form is a good counter to Maul's.
@darthduelist9: It's based on their duel on Florrum where neither had gained an advantage over the other in a prolongued duel.
@darthduelist9: It's based on their duel on Florrum where neither had gained an advantage over the other in a prolongued duel.
"Prolongued" well that's new... Darth Maul's second duel against Qui-Gon was longer yet that didn't mean they are close to one another.
@darthduelist9: Right, but the novel indicates that he's been toying with Qui-Gon, whereas Shadow Conspiracy genuinely depicts Kenobi and Maul as rivals.
@wollfmyth209: A scan of the novel (Shadow Conspiracy)?
@darthduelist9: Sadly, I don't own it for myself. But I did read it in my library. Maybe @i_like_swords can give you the excert from Shadow Conspiracy.
@wollfmyth209: Okay thanks anyway.
Prime obi should beat prime maul, and given their past it's reasonable they'd go one for the other.
I do trust fisto and plot moon enough to hold off dooku until kenoby has finished, even if aayla dies in process
How does Obi-wan avoid being rag dolled by Maul? Its happened in the past.
@jashro44: isn't peak obi stronger in the force than any versione of himself that got radgolled by maul?
His RotS force feats againzt anakin should be enough to avoid fetting radgolled by maul
I thought that Obi-wan was close to his peak when Maul rag dolled him but I could be wrong. Regardless I would think Maul can at least push Obi-wan around which should still give him an edge. Obi-wan's showing against Anakin is very impressive but I don't think it is enough. They were both hindered so its a bit hard to measure as a feat despite it being impressive.
@jashro44: isn't peak obi stronger in the force than any versione of himself that got radgolled by maul?
His RotS force feats againzt anakin should be enough to avoid fetting radgolled by maul
I thought that Obi-wan was close to his peak when Maul rag dolled him but I could be wrong. Regardless I would think Maul can at least push Obi-wan around which should still give him an edge. Obi-wan's showing against Anakin is very impressive but I don't think it is enough. They were both hindered so its a bit hard to measure as a feat despite it being impressive.
Honestly i don't see Obi reaching his peak before end of RotS(and during that span of time he did improve quite a bit i'd say, given he is in the right moment of his life and lives the situations a jedi needs to improve), and given obi's form and skill i don't think the physical disadvantage would matter much(again, even if hindered we have to remember that anakin has some incredible force augmentation feats for strength and speed, and Obi-wan did not have problems having a long duel against him).
I'd still pick peak obi against peak Maul, only thanks to superior skill with the lightsaber, even if i have to admit it'll be very close, and it hurts given i've become a great maul fan after reading shadow hunter and the comics
Maul; the only character who can choke the life out of someone on a whim and still have hordes of viewers thinking "hmm, I like Kenobi's chances".
Either of the Sith take a comfortable majority (if not virtually every time) against any duo of the Jedi - the Sith win every time.
Plo Koon and Obi-Wan should beat Maul, and Kit Fisto and Secura should at least be able to hold off Dooku for a bit.
@i_like_swords: So do you really think Kenobi has no chance against Maul at all?
@wiese: Sure he has a chance, it's just Maul is better in most categories, most obviously telekinesis.
Force:
Dooku >> Plo > Maul > Kenobi > Kit >> Aayla
Sabers:
Dooku > Maul / Kenobi > Kit / Plo >> Aayla
Switch Aayla with Shaak or Luminara tbh.
Kenobi and Plo should fight Dooku
While Aayla and Kit fight Maul
Aayla will die, but Fisto will eventually kill Maul
The remaining three Jedi would win against Dooku.
Well if maul takes obi wan, that leaves dooku with a 3 vs 1. Im not sure if he could win it. Dookus victory doesn't matter anyway, because he could kill at least one before going down and maul can take out the other two.
If it's a 2 and 2 split between them then the sith win mid diff.
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