Jean Grey vs. Ermac

I'm more interested in learning why you keep bumping every MK topic on here?   
 
With TK abilities, it's close...but I'm sure her telepathic attacks would be pointless on Ermac and H2H skills, I already know Ermac would beat her with ease.
  
Reason why I say he wouldn't be effected by her telepathy is because he's proven resistance to telepathic control from Onaga in Deception's arch where everyone else literally(minus Raiden and Ermac) were effected It's not like she's Xavier or MMH with it...not even close. 

The Neatherwherlm was crossed over once again with earth, this time the marvel universe. Ermac has been sent out to capture jean grey for Shao Khan while the others go do with other super heroes. Ermac heads to Xaviers chool and finds Cyclops,ermac telephathically slams him him and knocks him unconscious.  Jean Grey senses this and the two face off. 1 on 1 while the other X-men deal with Khans warriors

She won't demolish him....especially when she's been shown to struggle with low tier mutants like Toad lol. 
 
Psycho, she's not more powerful with TK then Ermac...unless she has the PF. Plus she has morals, he does not....he'll rip someone's arms off or destroy them with a thought like he did to Jax. Jean has never done this...as normal Jean.

if jean has her I AM THE ANGEL OF DEATH pheonix powers than she obviously murders ermac but not with tp deffinitly with flaming tk though. if its just regular jean with no firey stuff then DUH  ermac r*pes the shit out of her

She won't demolish him....especially when she's been shown to struggle with low tier mutants like Toad lol.  Psycho, she's not more powerful with TK then Ermac...unless she has the PF. Plus she has morals, he does not....he'll rip someone's arms off or destroy them with a thought like he did to Jax. Jean has never done this...as normal Jean.

Ermac was jobbing...and that was only due to Plot, example why didn't Ermac just do what he did to Jax to Stryker? Exactly....  
 
And Jean has had toad spit goo on her making her useless, if her TK was so great why didn't she just use it to remove it from her mouth? instead she needed cyclops to burn it off her...mediocre? my ass, vaporizing someone's arms is not mediocre TK feat....not to mention tossing around group of military men like ragdolls isn't exactly small feat. From lower floor.... 
 
And in the cartoon series in the 90's which Stan Lee produced and approved btw, Jean was struggling just to lift a car or hold things from the ceiling from falling on her....Ermac has not struggled with such, and in MKSM was tossing around huge boulders like nothing...
 
And Jean wouldn't mind rape him, he's resistant to telepathic control as he proved in Deception when Onaga was controlling everyone...

Ermac was jobbing...and that was only due to Plot, example why didn't Ermac just do what he did to Jax to Stryker? Exactly....   And Jean has had toad spit goo on her making her useless, if her TK was so great why didn't she just use it to remove it from her mouth? instead she needed cyclops to burn it off her...mediocre? my ass, vaporizing someone's arms is not mediocre TK feat....not to mention tossing around group of military men like ragdolls isn't exactly small feat. From lower floor....  And in the cartoon series in the 90's which Stan Lee produced and approved btw, Jean was struggling just to lift a car or hold things from the ceiling from falling on her....Ermac has not struggled with such, and in MKSM was tossing around huge boulders like nothing... And Jean wouldn't mind rape him, he's resistant to telepathic control as he proved in Deception when Onaga was controlling everyone...

nick..haha, oh how ironic...mr. "all MK characters are humans" 
 
Nah, you're the one that's an ignorant troll, tell you what, stop posting retarded nonsense in MK topics and nobody will reply. 
 
And yes, Onaga WAS able to control everyone AGAINST HIM except for Raiden and Ermac...do your homework kid. 
 
It wasn't a couple of fighters, it was everyone who sided with Raiden...that wasn't a couple. Sonya, Cage, Kitana, Jax,  Kung Lao, and communing with Liu Kang's soul guiding him....all at the same time with ease. And they didn't die, they were defeated....since they were in MKA.  
 
BTW, you know some of the cartoons are actually based off archs in comics right? and approved by Stan Lee, thus they're canon.
 
@Erik said:

@MKF30:  You are right. Jean is not Xavier. She is second to him as far as living mutant telepaths go. Excluding Legion.

@Erik said:

@MKF30:  That is fine but how powerful was the telepath?

Onaga telepathy isn't that powerful he resurrected  Kitana, Kung Lao, Johnny Cage, Sonya Blade & Jax when they were killed when they fought the Deadly Alliance (Shang Tsung & Quan Chi) in MK Deadly Alliance and he put them under mind control.

Yes, it's powerful since only Raiden and Ermac were able to resist it literally...They were brought back in MKA, Shang Tsung and Quan chi were killed by Raiden but came back during MKA's arch.  
  
You do realize the One Being and Kamidogu increased Onaga's power vastly right?

How would a normal Jean fair against someone with a thousand minds?  Isn't schizophrenia a type of immunity from telepathic mind reading?  I know that alot of people have a hard time dealing with Deadpool because of this and Ermac has waaaaaay more minds.

How would a normal Jean fair against someone with a thousand minds?  Isn't schizophrenia a type of immunity from telepathic mind reading?  I know that alot of people have a hard time dealing with Deadpool because of this and Ermac has waaaaaay more minds.

Just saying in general if you talk "video proof" Jean wasn't that impressive as "Jean Grey" without PF... 
 
Ermac on the other hand destroyed a guys arms literally with his mind and tossed around several military like ragdolls... 
 
Still, with that being said it's equally irrelevant and silly to assume Jean and Jean with PF are the same person...no, not even close. 
 
 @daak1212 said:

@MKF30: I though it was Canon as of the new mortal Kombat.  Didn't Shang tsung say this in story mode?

jean stomps so hard i can't even imagine .... ermac can't even beat stryker what chance does he have against omega level mutant

Not really....Ermac getting beat by Stryker was PIS...look it up. Jean will die here against Ermac, unless she has PF. Period

Not really....Ermac getting beat by Stryker was PIS...look it up. Jean will die here against Ermac, unless she has PF. Period

We all know you know nothing about Ermac and MK.... 
 
Ermac isn't even one person...duh

We all know you know nothing about Ermac and MK....  Ermac isn't even one person...duh

What has she done? never ripped anyone's arms off.... 
 
And Ermac has done a lot more then just that, he can and has tossed several people around like nothing, huge rocks, himself etc....and don't need a "phoenix force to do so either" lol

What has she done? never ripped anyone's arms off....  And Ermac has done a lot more then just that, he can and has tossed several people around like nothing, huge rocks, himself etc....and don't need a "phoenix force to do so either" lol

No, clearly he can destroy someone's body or rip them in half(as he can also do) 
 
Nick Scryer has also done this and he has everything both Ermac and Jean can do...and then some... 
 
She outclasses nothing, without her PF she's a low tier mutant at best..maybe mid. And H2H Ermac stomps her with ease...

No, clearly he can destroy someone's body or rip them in half(as he can also do)  Nick Scryer has also done this and he has everything both Ermac and Jean can do...and then some...  She outclasses nothing, without her PF she's a low tier mutant at best..maybe mid. And H2H Ermac stomps her with ease...

Prove that she's something without it.... 
 
Most if not all of her "impressive" feats are with the PF....without it she's average mutant at best.

Prove that she's something without it....  Most if not all of her "impressive" feats are with the PF....without it she's average mutant at best.

without it she's average mutant at best

without it she's average mutant at best

.Wha?

That was PIS ^, if he wanted to kill them he could have...it's all due to plot. 
 
You're telling me he ripped off Jax's arms yet didn't let him touch him, but Liu Kang, Sub and Stryker can? Think about it... 
 
And Sorry Psycho, but her being an OL mutant doesn't mean anything...again, most if not all of her impressive feats are WITH THE PHOENIX FORCE...you fail. I've yet to see evidence of her doing anything impressive as "just Jean Grey" molecular level haha, yeah as Poenix not Jean Grey....stop ignoring that. And Ermac can destroy people's bodies to, he didn't just rip Jax's arms off he disintegrated them literally...are you blind?

You're telling me he ripped off Jax's arms yet didn't let him touch him, but Liu Kang, Sub and Stryker can? Think about it...

Jax has lost his arms in other forms of media differently(like the movies and Legacy) movies aren't canon, Legacy just put a different twist on it... 
 
But since the games are canon, originally they said his arms were ripped off by Kahn's minions but in this cas ermac. 
 
I read the feats, they're not bad but I'm sure Ermac could do all of those just about. Lifting cyclop's glasses, is easy. Ermac in MKSM lifted huge bolders and tossed them at Liu Kang.  
 
In MK9, he destroyed Jax's arms(literally to a molecular level), not just ripping them off...tossed around an entire military squad before Sub-Zero fought him. Thru Stryker from the street all the way down the subway(which is why Stryker winning that fight was PIS) He can levitate himself, and has resisted mind control in MKD.  
 
I think Ermac/Jean is a good match up, obviously Phoenix is just overpowering... 
 
Keep in mind, he's also way more powerful when he's good then bad. In MKD he fought off all of  and defeated as well as freeing all of the Earth chosen warriors while they were being mind controlled by Onaga with ease while communing with Liu Kang's soul...as well as sensing the one being's presence.... 
 
Plus, he's many people not just one..... 
 
  

Jean all day and night.

Jean Grey wins so ridiculously easy.His powers are nowhere near her level..not even at her worst.We could go back to X-men #1 and she'd still look more powerful than Ermac.

Telekinesis on a molecular level.

Guess we'll never know since they'll never face off anyway...but Ermac is far more badass for a few reasons... 
 
Jean needs her PF to do massive damage, Ermac is many literally into one being...so you can make the case that even if Jean destroyed his body, the ermac's would destroy her....

Guess we'll never know since they'll never face off anyway...but Ermac is far more badass for a few reasons...  Jean needs her PF to do massive damage, Ermac is many literally into one being...so you can make the case that even if Jean destroyed his body, the ermac's would destroy her....

Guess we'll never know since they'll never face off anyway...but Ermac is far more badass for a few reasons...  Jean needs her PF to do massive damage, Ermac is many literally into one being...so you can make the case that even if Jean destroyed his body, the ermac's would destroy her....

@nick_hero22: Oh haha,  Stryker is clearly more capable than what you think.  Besides a good portion of his training comes from beating Jax all day....>.> get it?

@nick_hero22: It was a joke.  Stryker beating Jax the black guy cause he's a cop. lol

Superpsycho, well then it's a stalemate since she can't do anything to the Ermac's...they're souls....