" They never fought each other so nobody has any direct proof, just speculation on both ends... You can put anyone with TK against Jean here and she'll still win...on CV "
I meant that if you have any proof of Ermac having resistant to telepathy....
Neither do I, I've said tons of times I have friends and family who are on this site Vance....google my name MKF30 on google, you'll find I use THIS name on a ton of sites video games, comics etc
Oh, no well...actually you know come to think of it...the Dragon King was controlling everyone in his MKD ending but I just realized Ermac wasn't affected at all, so I think he does have some resistance to mind control...
Check out this video, see what I mean, he's not affected at all yet everyone else is...
Check out the Ermac MKD video, I just realized everyone else was effected via Onaga's mind control except Ermac....
So obviously there's proof he can resist telepathy...
I' m not saying you never gave good scans, jean is far older then Ermac therefore she will have more showings....he's a vid game character, capable of much but we haven't seen anywhere near his full potential but so far he's been a badass in his own right.
I think stalemate or Ermac wins here, but if it's Phoenix then it's just not fair.... she can't end him as Jean, they have the same powers and unlike Jean he's killed before with no morals(but he's a good guy now) so he wouldn't do so...
It's like putting Spectre up against Jean lol with Phoenix vs him...
Jean would win. I read a little about how her telepathy wouldn't work because Ermac has a hundred souls in him or something> Jean has helped Rogue who has absorbed thousands of psyches and she has been in Legion's mind who at last count had over 1000. Jean's telepathy can, at the smallest feats, lift aloft the enitre original team of xmen and carry them. She has stopped the decent on the Empire State Building when it was destroyed during fall of the mutants. She has far better power feats and sorry that is how these battles are won.
" Jean would win. I read a little about how her telepathy wouldn't work because Ermac has a hundred souls in him or something> Jean has helped Rogue who has absorbed thousands of psyches and she has been in Legion's mind who at last count had over 1000. Jean's telepathy can, at the smallest feats, lift aloft the enitre original team of xmen and carry them. She has stopped the decent on the Empire State Building when it was destroyed during fall of the mutants. She has far better power feats and sorry that is how these battles are won. "
So obviously there's proof he can resist telepathy...
There's proof he can resist mind control, but there isn't proof that he can resist other forms of telepathy. Resisting mind control doesn't mean you can resist being mind-wiped, having your brain shut off, psychic bolts, mental probes, and astral attacks. There are other ways that telepathy can work.
lol, please....I don't even care that much, but it is funny to see him obsess over me and try to best me with MK knowledge...
@Static, Onaga's mind control/telepathy is far more powerful then Jean's...was there ever an arc where she was controlling multiple people all at once? I'm sure Ermac can resist it....assuming he even has a mind, he's an entity... he's full of tons of souls/minds. And Spider-Man is easily that agile, in the movies he was flipping and flying blocks in mid air before catching himself with webs....
Actually no, speaking as how you have as many posts as I do plus in case you haven't noticed...you and I don't represent this entire site alone...there's clearly others in here...so your theory doesn't work. And obviously you care as much as I do otherwise you wouldn't be posting yourself ;)
Actually no, speaking as how you have as many posts as I do plus in case you haven't noticed...you and I don't represent this entire site alone...there's clearly others in here...so your theory doesn't work.
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You're still posting.If you don't care you wouldn't keep posting.All of the arguments in this thread are directed at you so my theory works perfectly.
@Static, Onaga's mind control/telepathy is far more powerful then Jean's
Either you misunderstood what I said, or you completely ignored the basis of my statement. Resisting mind control doesn't mean you can resist other forms of telepathy. Ermac can resist Jean's mind control (as far as Onaga's being far more powerful than Jean, who has the Phoenix Force, I doubt it, but it doesn't really matter), but that doesn't mean he can resist other telepathic assaults that he hasn't even shown to resist. So far, you said Ermac has only resisted mind control. You never said that he resisted other forms of telepathy.
And yet you're still posting yourself Vance. touche. I'm discussing something with Static, you seem to just be posting for sake of posting.
Static Mind Control in itself is similar to telepathy as they both effect the mind, Onaga when he had that ridiculous power was controlling just about everyone of the good guys with his mind control.....and I'm referring to Normal Jean here, not Phoenix. Big, big difference. When has normal Jean ever controlled various people under her own power(not Phoenix)? If I may ask.
We don't know honestly concerning "other telepaths" but the one so far, clearly shown Ermac resisting it or it having no effect on him....in the Dragon King's/onagas
Then please...leave me the hell alone ^...actually I did already but believe what you want. I'm not going to fight with you so go away please or ignore me.
"Static Mind Control in itself is similar to telepathy as they both effect the mind, Onaga when he had that ridiculous power was controlling just about everyone of the good guys with his mind control.....and I'm referring to Normal Jean here, not Phoenix. Big, big difference. When has normal Jean ever controlled various people under her own power(not Phoenix)? If I may ask.
There are different forms of telepathy. Mind control is just one of them, but there are other forms that have different uses. Resisting one form doesn't men you can resist another. Onaga, as you stated, only used mind control, but never attempted other forms of telepathy on Ermac. What proof do you have that Ermac can resist other forms of telepathy (astral plane attacks, psychic bolts, mind-wipes, mental probes, etc.)? You assuming that he can resist all of this, yes? Then, why not show me, because I've never seen it. You can refer to normal Jean if you want, but Phoenix is in the battle. Her picture, as Phoenix, is in the OP.
"We don't know honestly concerning "other telepaths" but the one so far, clearly shown Ermac resisting it or it having no effect on him....in the Dragon King's/onagas "
Yeah, clearly showing that he resisted mind control and not other forms of telepathy. There's a difference.
And Spider-Man is easily that agile, in the movies he was flipping and flying blocks in mid air before catching himself with webs....
He wasn't doing 20 flips and tucks, though. That was what you said (not to mention that the movie version has nothing to do with the comic book version). The comic book version has never done that. Spider-Man would have to jump awfully high to do anything of that nature. Even in the air after coming off his webs, he's never shown to do that.
Yep, I agree that's what I'm saying. Both clearly effect the mind just implemented differently. Telepathy can consist of just reading someones mind, but not necessarily controlling them...where other cases it can control the mind like in MMH and Pro X's case.
But if you take say that kid from Smallville way back, he couldn't control people but could read their minds.
But in Ermac's case, just stating that Onaga's was respectable and made the other good guys "his puppets" but Ermac pretty much said, yeah...that's not going to work on me lol ever since Kenshi freed him, Ermac so far has been shown to resist mind control.
Ok, I agree Spidey wasn't doing backflips lol but he was flying long distances that looked liked blocks easily. I know the movies usually exagerrated or are flat out off sometimes but I thought they did a pretty good job overall(same with Batman) but I know sometimes they go overboard or don't do the character a proper justice.
So the movie version of Spidey is more powerful then the comic by far you think?
"Yep, I agree that's what I'm saying. Both clearly effect the mind just implemented differently. Telepathy can consist of just reading someones mind, but not necessarily controlling them...where other cases it can control the mind like in MMH and Pro X's case.
And, because they are used and implemented differently, they have different effects. Resisting one doesn't mean you can resist another. One example is that Captain Atom is immune to mind control, but he can't resist having his mind read by a telepath. He resisted one form but wasn't able to resist another. Superman is another, having been mind controlled by Destro once, but resisted Martian Manhunter's mental probes. Static has had his mind affected once, and willfully resisted it, but there was another instance of having his mind read that he couldn't resist. He's even had his mind under control by the Anti-Life, but Miss Martian couldn't locate his mind once. In this case of resisting certain forms of telepathy, one thing doesn't lead to another.
Oh ok, I like Spider-Man because it some ways he reminds me of Superman, boyscout, shirt rip, acts geeky at times etc but yeah comics are always a great tool for showing off a character better then a movie or game.
The Superman/MMH thing always intrigued me, sometimes he can resist him other times not....so what's up with that? lol We've seen him resist at times but other times can't.
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