who wins
ironman vs solomon grundy
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison.
Depends how Grundy is written
On a good day IM gets stomped
If its the Gruny that gets whipped by Batman then Grundy gets floored
"Depends how Grundy is writtenIt doesn't depend on writing.Grundy actually isn't that strong...his strength level differs from time to time with each incarnation.
On a good day IM gets stomped
If its the Gruny that gets whipped by Batman then Grundy gets floored"
"Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
"Vance Astro said:And you think that's logical?"Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
"Vance Astro said:Isn't he intelligent now?"Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
"Strafe Prower said:Grundy?"Vance Astro said:Isn't he intelligent now?""Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
"Strafe Prower said:yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys."Vance Astro said:And you think that's logical?""Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
Yeah the last ime I read JLA bacck in 07 # 7-10. He was talking loike he had sense and thrashed most of the JLA before that issue.
"Lantern Prime said:yep."Strafe Prower said:Grundy?""Vance Astro said:Isn't he intelligent now?""Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
"Vance Astro said:Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell."Strafe Prower said:yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys.""Vance Astro said:And you think that's logical?""Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
"Strafe Prower said:Doesnt matter how you feel about it"Vance Astro said:Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell.""Strafe Prower said:yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys.""Vance Astro said:And you think that's logical?""Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
They did it and if this is that grundy then IM goes down like a sac of bricks
"Strafe Prower said:That comic? He has done it on several occasions."Vance Astro said:Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell.""Strafe Prower said:yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys.""Vance Astro said:And you think that's logical?""Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
"Vance Astro said:That has nothing to do with the point I am making."Strafe Prower said:That comic? He has done it on several occasions.""Vance Astro said:Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell.""Strafe Prower said:yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys.""Vance Astro said:And you think that's logical?""Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
"Vance Astro said:No idea but IM is extremely overrated on these forums"Strafe Prower said:That comic? He has done it on several occasions.""Vance Astro said:Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell.""Strafe Prower said:yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys.""Vance Astro said:And you think that's logical?""Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
The Grundy that beat the snot out of Supes wins this in a stomp
If its the Grundy that gets pressure pointed by Bats then I would give it to IM
"Vance Astro said:You're right..it doesn't matter how I feel about it..because I'm not telling you how I feel about it.I'm telling you straight up it's bad writing."Strafe Prower said:Doesnt matter how you feel about it"Vance Astro said:Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell.""Strafe Prower said:yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys.""Vance Astro said:And you think that's logical?""Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
They did it and if this is that grundy then IM goes down like a sac of bricks"
"Liquid_Ice said:No, Batman beating Grundy is bad writing, Grundy being able to fight against Supes is legit and if thats the case then IM gets WTFpwned"Vance Astro said:You're right..it doesn't matter how I feel about it..because I'm not telling you how I feel about it.I'm telling you straight up it's bad writing.""Strafe Prower said:Doesnt matter how you feel about it"Vance Astro said:Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell.""Strafe Prower said:yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys.""Vance Astro said:And you think that's logical?""Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
They did it and if this is that grundy then IM goes down like a sac of bricks"
"Strafe Prower said:Iron Man isn't overrated I am one of very few that actually makes a case for him.Everyone else still acts like he's just a guy in a suit."Vance Astro said:No idea but IM is extremely overrated on these forums"Strafe Prower said:That comic? He has done it on several occasions.""Vance Astro said:Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell.""Strafe Prower said:yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys.""Vance Astro said:And you think that's logical?""Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
The Grundy that beat the snot out of Supes wins this in a stomp
If its the Grundy that gets pressure pointed by Bats then I would give it to IM"
"Vance Astro said:Stop bringing up the stupid Batman thing..it has nothing to do with my case at all.Grundy beating Supes is bullsh#t."Liquid_Ice said:No, Batman beating Grundy is bad writing, Grundy being able to fight against Supes is legit and if thats the case then IM gets WTFpwned""Vance Astro said:You're right..it doesn't matter how I feel about it..because I'm not telling you how I feel about it.I'm telling you straight up it's bad writing.""Strafe Prower said:Doesnt matter how you feel about it"Vance Astro said:Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell.""Strafe Prower said:yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys.""Vance Astro said:And you think that's logical?""Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
They did it and if this is that grundy then IM goes down like a sac of bricks"
"Liquid_Ice said:IM is extremely overrated probably the most overrated character on these forums along with SS and Thanos"Strafe Prower said:Iron Man isn't overrated I am one of very few that actually makes a case for him.Everyone else still acts like he's just a guy in a suit."Vance Astro said:No idea but IM is extremely overrated on these forums"Strafe Prower said:That comic? He has done it on several occasions.""Vance Astro said:Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell.""Strafe Prower said:yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys.""Vance Astro said:And you think that's logical?""Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
The Grundy that beat the snot out of Supes wins this in a stomp
If its the Grundy that gets pressure pointed by Bats then I would give it to IM"It doesn't matter which Grundy it is.He can't touch Iron Man."
Grundy can tag Supes so he could tag IM also
"Vance Astro said:1.WHO THE F#CK CARES?"Liquid_Ice said:IM is extremely overrated probably the most overrated character on these forums along with SS and Thanos"Strafe Prower said:Iron Man isn't overrated I am one of very few that actually makes a case for him.Everyone else still acts like he's just a guy in a suit."Vance Astro said:No idea but IM is extremely overrated on these forums"Strafe Prower said:That comic? He has done it on several occasions.""Vance Astro said:Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell.""Strafe Prower said:yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys.""Vance Astro said:And you think that's logical?""Strafe Prower said:Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.""That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."No..it's not even close in comparison."
The Grundy that beat the snot out of Supes wins this in a stomp
If its the Grundy that gets pressure pointed by Bats then I would give it to IM"It doesn't matter which Grundy it is.He can't touch Iron Man."
Grundy can tag Supes so he could tag IM also"
And IM has no way of harming him either
Grundy can stand their with a smile on his face and watch IM failed attempt to unload everything he has on him
I already said that it depends on what version of Grundy is being used in this fight
If its the one that Batman pwns then Ill give it to IM
If its the one that Supes has trouble with then IM gets housed
"I already said that it depends on what version of Grundy is being used in this fightAnd I already said it doesn't matter which Grundy it is because they are all big and slow.
If its the one that Batman pwns then Ill give it to IM
If its the one that Supes has trouble with then IM gets housed
"
"Liquid_Ice said:How the hell is he going to BFR him and no not all of them are slow, alot of them can tag Supes Flash GL etc and any of these guys would pretty much 1 shot IM"I already said that it depends on what version of Grundy is being used in this fightAnd I already said it doesn't matter which Grundy it is because they are all big and slow.
If its the one that Batman pwns then Ill give it to IM
If its the one that Supes has trouble with then IM gets housed
"Even can't close combat Grundy he can unload on him from the air or BFR him.Iron Man's magnetic weapon made Hulk look like a toddler..and that was in the 80's.The Extremis version is a monster."
I know your a fanboy dude but seriously thats enough, almost everyone here agrees that IM gets curbstomped and the only reason he was put into a fight with Grundy is because he has terrible low showings like getting owned with pressure points
And as I already said if this is the one that Supes fights then IM has no way of harming him
IM can be point blank range and his attacks wouldnt even tickle Grundy
I'm going to just stop trying to debate with you because you have an obvious bias toward Marvel and you will never give in no matter how wrong you are.
"I'm going to just stop trying to debate with you because you have an obvious bias toward Marvel and you will never give in no matter how wrong you are."Right so your basically saying IM is going to do what Supes and most of the JLA cant
Why dont you just stop posting now, You are making IM look really bad
"I'm going to just stop trying to debate with youThank god
Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts
"Im abouts to make another Chun Li vs thread...."ok wait how about Chun Li vs mmm i have no idea
"Vance Astro said:You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you."I'm going to just stop trying to debate with youThank god
Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
"Liquid_Ice said:gee some people just dont know when to quit"Vance Astro said:You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you.""I'm going to just stop trying to debate with youThank god
Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
it isnt hard to see that IM loses badly here, Its just people like you who cant stand to see certain characters lose
"Vance Astro said:No..it's not about me letting anyone lose.I'm not saying Iron Man wins because I like him..I am saying he wins because he does.You haven't given me a logical argument.Your only response is Grundy beat the JLA..so the f#ck what? The Hulk be the core Avengers and the West Coast Avengers but lost to Iron Man solo 3 times..no Hulkbuster.So don't sit there and act like fights aren't played out in a way that makes it seem as if certain characters can do things beyond their limits.Grundy is nowhere near fast enough to tag Supes or Iron Man for that matter."Liquid_Ice said:gee some people just dont know when to quit"Vance Astro said:You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you.""I'm going to just stop trying to debate with youThank god
Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
it isnt hard to see that IM loses badly here, Its just people like you who cant stand to see certain characters lose"
now you know how i felt in the hulk firelord thread i can almost see u getting a pulsating vein in your temple :P
"Liquid_Ice said:And yet he has tagged Supes Flash and GL any of who could kill IM instantly"Vance Astro said:No..it's not about me letting anyone lose.I'm not saying Iron Man wins because I like him..I am saying he wins because he does.You haven't given me a logical argument.Your only response is Grundy beat the JLA..so the f#ck what? The Hulk be the core Avengers and the West Coast Avengers but lost to Iron Man solo 3 times..no Hulkbuster.So don't sit there and act like fights aren't played out in a way that makes it seem as if certain characters can do things beyond their limits.Grundy is nowhere near fast enough to tag Supes or Iron Man for that matter.""Liquid_Ice said:gee some people just dont know when to quit"Vance Astro said:You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you.""I'm going to just stop trying to debate with youThank god
Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
it isnt hard to see that IM loses badly here, Its just people like you who cant stand to see certain characters lose"
Hulk beat a team that most of the JLA could solo, Hulk has never fought a team that would last more then a few seconds against the JLA
Hulk would be killed by most members of the JLA
See I can use ABC logic also
Simply put IM has no way to harm Grundy, Grundy can stand their and laugh at IM piss poor attempts to do any damage
At the very best IM flies away and Grundy doesnt bother coming after him which means IM loses by leaving the Battle Field
Face it IM is screwed here, you cant beat what you cant hurt and if Grundy gets his hands on IM then Tony is going to do the dead mans dance in hell " King Saturn "
"Vance Astro said:See..THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT? It's bad writing..what about that don't you get?"Liquid_Ice said:And yet he has tagged Supes Flash and GL any of who could kill IM instantly"Vance Astro said:No..it's not about me letting anyone lose.I'm not saying Iron Man wins because I like him..I am saying he wins because he does.You haven't given me a logical argument.Your only response is Grundy beat the JLA..so the f#ck what? The Hulk be the core Avengers and the West Coast Avengers but lost to Iron Man solo 3 times..no Hulkbuster.So don't sit there and act like fights aren't played out in a way that makes it seem as if certain characters can do things beyond their limits.Grundy is nowhere near fast enough to tag Supes or Iron Man for that matter.""Liquid_Ice said:gee some people just dont know when to quit"Vance Astro said:You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you.""I'm going to just stop trying to debate with youThank god
Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
it isnt hard to see that IM loses badly here, Its just people like you who cant stand to see certain characters lose"
Hulk beat a team that most of the JLA could solo, Hulk has never fought a team that would last more then a few seconds against the JLA
Hulk would be killed by most members of the JLA
See I can use ABC logic also
Simply put IM has no way to harm Grundy, Grundy can stand their and laugh at IM piss poor attempts to do any damage
At the very best IM flies away and Grundy doesnt bother coming after him which means IM loses by leaving the Battle Field
Face it IM is screwed here, you cant beat what you cant hurt and if Grundy gets his hands on IM then Tony is going to do the dead mans dance in hell " King Saturn "
"
"Liquid_Ice said:Here, this is a pretty clear description of you"Vance Astro said:See..THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT? It's bad writing..what about that don't you get?"Liquid_Ice said:And yet he has tagged Supes Flash and GL any of who could kill IM instantly"Vance Astro said:No..it's not about me letting anyone lose.I'm not saying Iron Man wins because I like him..I am saying he wins because he does.You haven't given me a logical argument.Your only response is Grundy beat the JLA..so the f#ck what? The Hulk be the core Avengers and the West Coast Avengers but lost to Iron Man solo 3 times..no Hulkbuster.So don't sit there and act like fights aren't played out in a way that makes it seem as if certain characters can do things beyond their limits.Grundy is nowhere near fast enough to tag Supes or Iron Man for that matter.""Liquid_Ice said:gee some people just dont know when to quit"Vance Astro said:You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you.""I'm going to just stop trying to debate with youThank god
Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
it isnt hard to see that IM loses badly here, Its just people like you who cant stand to see certain characters lose"
Hulk beat a team that most of the JLA could solo, Hulk has never fought a team that would last more then a few seconds against the JLA
Hulk would be killed by most members of the JLA
See I can use ABC logic also
Simply put IM has no way to harm Grundy, Grundy can stand their and laugh at IM piss poor attempts to do any damage
At the very best IM flies away and Grundy doesnt bother coming after him which means IM loses by leaving the Battle Field
Face it IM is screwed here, you cant beat what you cant hurt and if Grundy gets his hands on IM then Tony is going to do the dead mans dance in hell " King Saturn "
"And what you are saying about the Hulk has nothing at all to do with my point.I wasn't saying the Avengers are equivalent to the JLA in any way.. I am saying that Hulk beat a team with Iron Man but lost to him in a solo fight.I t makes no f#ckin sense.I was relating that to slow as Grundy beating the JLA who we know have the range and the intellect to easily take Grundy.He's a f#ckin Zombie.I'm not using ABC logic you f#ckin idiot.YOU ARE!"
"Vance Astro said:You call me a fanboy but I am making sense and you are using bad writing to prove your case.You're purposely reaching to try and prove your case but you call me a fanboy? That doesn't make sense."Liquid_Ice said:Here, this is a pretty clear description of you"Vance Astro said:See..THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT? It's bad writing..what about that don't you get?"Liquid_Ice said:And yet he has tagged Supes Flash and GL any of who could kill IM instantly"Vance Astro said:No..it's not about me letting anyone lose.I'm not saying Iron Man wins because I like him..I am saying he wins because he does.You haven't given me a logical argument.Your only response is Grundy beat the JLA..so the f#ck what? The Hulk be the core Avengers and the West Coast Avengers but lost to Iron Man solo 3 times..no Hulkbuster.So don't sit there and act like fights aren't played out in a way that makes it seem as if certain characters can do things beyond their limits.Grundy is nowhere near fast enough to tag Supes or Iron Man for that matter.""Liquid_Ice said:gee some people just dont know when to quit"Vance Astro said:You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you.""I'm going to just stop trying to debate with youThank god
Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
it isnt hard to see that IM loses badly here, Its just people like you who cant stand to see certain characters lose"
Hulk beat a team that most of the JLA could solo, Hulk has never fought a team that would last more then a few seconds against the JLA
Hulk would be killed by most members of the JLA
See I can use ABC logic also
Simply put IM has no way to harm Grundy, Grundy can stand their and laugh at IM piss poor attempts to do any damage
At the very best IM flies away and Grundy doesnt bother coming after him which means IM loses by leaving the Battle Field
Face it IM is screwed here, you cant beat what you cant hurt and if Grundy gets his hands on IM then Tony is going to do the dead mans dance in hell " King Saturn "
"And what you are saying about the Hulk has nothing at all to do with my point.I wasn't saying the Avengers are equivalent to the JLA in any way.. I am saying that Hulk beat a team with Iron Man but lost to him in a solo fight.I t makes no f#ckin sense.I was relating that to slow as Grundy beating the JLA who we know have the range and the intellect to easily take Grundy.He's a f#ckin Zombie.I'm not using ABC logic you f#ckin idiot.YOU ARE!"
"Liquid_Ice said:Dude your only defense is WHAAA Its PIS"Vance Astro said:You call me a fanboy but I am making sense and you are using bad writing to prove your case.You're purposely reaching to try and prove your case but you call me a fanboy? That doesn't make sense.""Liquid_Ice said:Here, this is a pretty clear description of you"Vance Astro said:See..THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT? It's bad writing..what about that don't you get?"Liquid_Ice said:And yet he has tagged Supes Flash and GL any of who could kill IM instantly"Vance Astro said:No..it's not about me letting anyone lose.I'm not saying Iron Man wins because I like him..I am saying he wins because he does.You haven't given me a logical argument.Your only response is Grundy beat the JLA..so the f#ck what? The Hulk be the core Avengers and the West Coast Avengers but lost to Iron Man solo 3 times..no Hulkbuster.So don't sit there and act like fights aren't played out in a way that makes it seem as if certain characters can do things beyond their limits.Grundy is nowhere near fast enough to tag Supes or Iron Man for that matter.""Liquid_Ice said:gee some people just dont know when to quit"Vance Astro said:You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you.""I'm going to just stop trying to debate with youThank god
Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
it isnt hard to see that IM loses badly here, Its just people like you who cant stand to see certain characters lose"
Hulk beat a team that most of the JLA could solo, Hulk has never fought a team that would last more then a few seconds against the JLA
Hulk would be killed by most members of the JLA
See I can use ABC logic also
Simply put IM has no way to harm Grundy, Grundy can stand their and laugh at IM piss poor attempts to do any damage
At the very best IM flies away and Grundy doesnt bother coming after him which means IM loses by leaving the Battle Field
Face it IM is screwed here, you cant beat what you cant hurt and if Grundy gets his hands on IM then Tony is going to do the dead mans dance in hell " King Saturn "
"And what you are saying about the Hulk has nothing at all to do with my point.I wasn't saying the Avengers are equivalent to the JLA in any way.. I am saying that Hulk beat a team with Iron Man but lost to him in a solo fight.I t makes no f#ckin sense.I was relating that to slow as Grundy beating the JLA who we know have the range and the intellect to easily take Grundy.He's a f#ckin Zombie.I'm not using ABC logic you f#ckin idiot.YOU ARE!"
I already told you Grundy Jobbing to Bats is PIS
Grundy is suppose to be around Supes level of strenght and durability or at least close
I guess you probably think IM can beat Doomsday also
Seriously just stop wasting my time Junior
first of their are so many wholes in your argument,..
the A B logic doesnt mean anything especially when you are trying to accredited certain abilities that are not given to the character by the company.
beating any JLA member does not equate to being physically stronger, faster or having some kind of energy wielding immunity just because he fought a team with those abilities..
we dont see hulk or grundy manifesting those abilities just because you think so.. i never seen grundy fly or run using a flash speed blitz...
vance instead of telling him no your wrong why dont you just explain IM capabilities like a sonic attack to disorient him or shut down his brain via civil war not sure if he has done it any other time im sure he has.. or him using an electrical attack using his palms direct at grundy's temple.ect ect ect.
"first of their are so many wholes in your argument,..Yes because I am going to take anything the second biggest Marvel fanboy on this site says seriously
the A B logic doesnt mean anything especially when you are trying to accredited certain abilities that are not given to the character by the company.
beating any JLA member does not equate to be physically stronger, faster or having some kind of enery wielding immunity just because he fought a team with those abilities..
we dont see hulk or grundy manifesting those abilities just because you think so.. i never seen grundy fly or run using a flash speed blitz...
vance instead of telling him no your wrong why dont you just explain IM capabilities like a sonic attack to disorient him or shut down his brain via civil war not sure if he has done it any other time sure he has.. or him using an electrical attack using his palms direct at grundy's temple.ect ect ect."
Why dont you stop wasting my time now
Dude your only defense is WHAAA Its PIS1.You are using ABC logic
I already told you Grundy Jobbing to Bats is PIS
Grundy is suppose to be around Supes level of strenght and durability or at least close
I guess you probably think IM can beat Doomsday also
Seriously just stop wasting my time Junior"
tisk tisk tisk liquid i am hurt first i was the biggest now i am second and their is a laundry list of ppl on this site that you have also referred to by the same name.. which of us is it?
"Liquid_Ice said:Comic books dont use logic, In fact most pieces of fiction don't so please dont pull that crap on meDude your only defense is WHAAA Its PIS1.You are using ABC logic
I already told you Grundy Jobbing to Bats is PIS
Grundy is suppose to be around Supes level of strenght and durability or at least close
I guess you probably think IM can beat Doomsday also
Seriously just stop wasting my time Junior"2.You actually believe Solomon Grundy..a big ass zombie can tag Superman,Wonder Woman and The Flash logicallyI don't care what you already told me.Making statements as usual isn't a case.I don't think Iron Man can beat Doomsday but I think he can beat Grundy.You're wasting time by not knowing WTF you are talking about...and not putting some actual thought into what you are saying.I said much more than call your dumbass argument PIS so stop acting like that's all I had because I put down alot more than that..you are dwelling on it because you don't have a real case for Grundy."
Like I said kid stop wasting my time
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