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#1  Edited By claws

who wins

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#2  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Iron Man wins.

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#3  Edited By claws
Vance Astro said:
"Iron Man wins."

agreed
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#4  Edited By Strafe Prower

That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen.

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#5  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison.
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#6  Edited By Lantern Prime

Solomon Grundy wins via smashing Ironmanthrough the pavement!

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#7  Edited By Liquid_Ice

Depends how Grundy is written

On a good day IM gets stomped

If its the Gruny that gets whipped by Batman then Grundy gets floored

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#8  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Liquid_Ice said:
"Depends how Grundy is written

On a good day IM gets stomped

If its the Gruny that gets whipped by Batman then Grundy gets floored"
It doesn't depend on writing.Grundy actually isn't that strong...his strength level differs from time to time with each incarnation.
On a good day,Iron Man still wins because Grundy is slow and he can't fly.Grundy will never get a hit off.And don't bother saying "he hit Superman" because that would be the only thing that would cause writing to be brought up in this match up.
Any Grundy loses.
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#9  Edited By Strafe Prower
Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance.
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#10  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
And you think that's logical?
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#11  Edited By Lantern Prime
Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
Isn't he intelligent now?
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#12  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Lantern Prime said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
Isn't he intelligent now?"
Grundy?
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#13  Edited By Strafe Prower
Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
And you think that's logical?"
yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys.
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#14  Edited By Lantern Prime

Yeah the last ime I read JLA bacck in 07 # 7-10. He was talking loike he had sense and thrashed most of the JLA before that issue.

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#15  Edited By Strafe Prower
Vance Astro said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
Isn't he intelligent now?"
Grundy?"
yep.
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#16  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
And you think that's logical?"
yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys."
Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell.
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#17  Edited By Liquid_Ice
Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
And you think that's logical?"
yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys."
Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell."
Doesnt matter how you feel about it
They did it and if this is that grundy then IM goes down like a sac of bricks
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#18  Edited By Strafe Prower
Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
And you think that's logical?"
yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys."
Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell."
That comic? He has done it on several occasions.
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#19  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
And you think that's logical?"
yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys."
Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell."
That comic? He has done it on several occasions."
That has nothing to do with the point I am making.
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#20  Edited By Liquid_Ice
Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
And you think that's logical?"
yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys."
Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell."
That comic? He has done it on several occasions."
No idea but IM is extremely overrated on these forums

The Grundy that beat the snot out of Supes wins this in a stomp
If its the Grundy that gets pressure pointed by Bats then I would give it to IM
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#21  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
And you think that's logical?"
yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys."
Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell."
Doesnt matter how you feel about it
They did it and if this is that grundy then IM goes down like a sac of bricks"
You're right..it doesn't matter how I feel about it..because I'm not telling you how I feel about it.I'm telling you straight up it's bad writing.
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#22  Edited By Liquid_Ice
Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
And you think that's logical?"
yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys."
Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell."
Doesnt matter how you feel about it
They did it and if this is that grundy then IM goes down like a sac of bricks"
You're right..it doesn't matter how I feel about it..because I'm not telling you how I feel about it.I'm telling you straight up it's bad writing."
No, Batman beating Grundy is bad writing, Grundy being able to fight against Supes is legit and if thats the case then IM gets WTFpwned
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#23  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Liquid_Ice said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
And you think that's logical?"
yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys."
Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell."
That comic? He has done it on several occasions."
No idea but IM is extremely overrated on these forums

The Grundy that beat the snot out of Supes wins this in a stomp
If its the Grundy that gets pressure pointed by Bats then I would give it to IM"
Iron Man isn't overrated I am one of very few that actually makes a case for him.Everyone else still acts like he's just a guy in a suit.
It doesn't matter which Grundy it is.He can't touch Iron Man.
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#24  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
And you think that's logical?"
yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys."
Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell."
Doesnt matter how you feel about it
They did it and if this is that grundy then IM goes down like a sac of bricks"
You're right..it doesn't matter how I feel about it..because I'm not telling you how I feel about it.I'm telling you straight up it's bad writing."
No, Batman beating Grundy is bad writing, Grundy being able to fight against Supes is legit and if thats the case then IM gets WTFpwned"
Stop bringing up the stupid Batman thing..it has nothing to do with my case at all.Grundy beating Supes is bullsh#t.
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#25  Edited By Liquid_Ice
Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
And you think that's logical?"
yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys."
Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell."
That comic? He has done it on several occasions."
No idea but IM is extremely overrated on these forums

The Grundy that beat the snot out of Supes wins this in a stomp
If its the Grundy that gets pressure pointed by Bats then I would give it to IM"
Iron Man isn't overrated I am one of very few that actually makes a case for him.Everyone else still acts like he's just a guy in a suit.
It doesn't matter which Grundy it is.He can't touch Iron Man.
"
IM is extremely overrated probably the most overrated character on these forums along with SS and Thanos
Grundy can tag Supes so he could tag IM also
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#26  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Strafe Prower said:
"That's like saying Batman beats Juggernaut. It wont happen."
No..it's not even close in comparison."
Grundy at peak has tooken down the whole JLA with ease and IM beats him? not a chance."
And you think that's logical?"
yes. He has beaten superstrength, speed, a wide variety of range, intelligence, and gadgets at the same time. Not to mention he is a zombie who is immortal, and has no problem with killing his enemys."
Grundy beating the JLA is as dumb as how Black Adam did it.I don't know if you read that comic but you can clearly see people running right into in ass whoopin'..even people like Vixen and the Flash who don't have Superman,Wonder Woman,Power Girl etc. level durability.With the speed of the most of the JLA..Grundy shouldn't even be able to get a hit off...he's slow as hell."
That comic? He has done it on several occasions."
No idea but IM is extremely overrated on these forums

The Grundy that beat the snot out of Supes wins this in a stomp
If its the Grundy that gets pressure pointed by Bats then I would give it to IM"
Iron Man isn't overrated I am one of very few that actually makes a case for him.Everyone else still acts like he's just a guy in a suit.
It doesn't matter which Grundy it is.He can't touch Iron Man.
"
IM is extremely overrated probably the most overrated character on these forums along with SS and Thanos
Grundy can tag Supes so he could tag IM also"
1.WHO THE F#CK CARES?
2.Iron Man being overrated has nothing to do with what I am saying.
3.What makes you think Grundy is all of a sudden incarnated with the reflexes to hit Supes? Or could it be that DC let it happen because the book would suck if Grundy couldn't actually touch his opponent? BTW this is rhetorical..I know the answer.
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#27  Edited By Liquid_Ice

And IM has no way of harming him either
Grundy can stand their with a smile on his face and watch IM failed attempt to unload everything he has on him

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#28  Edited By Liquid_Ice

I already said that it depends on what version of Grundy is being used in this fight
If its the one that Batman pwns then Ill give it to IM

If its the one that Supes has trouble with then IM gets housed

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#29  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Liquid_Ice said:
"I already said that it depends on what version of Grundy is being used in this fight
If its the one that Batman pwns then Ill give it to IM

If its the one that Supes has trouble with then IM gets housed

"
And I already said it doesn't matter which Grundy it is because they are all big and slow.
Even can't close combat Grundy he can unload on him from the air or BFR him.
Iron Man's magnetic weapon made Hulk look like a toddler..and that was in the 80's.The Extremis version is a monster.
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#30  Edited By Liquid_Ice
Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"I already said that it depends on what version of Grundy is being used in this fight
If its the one that Batman pwns then Ill give it to IM

If its the one that Supes has trouble with then IM gets housed

"
And I already said it doesn't matter which Grundy it is because they are all big and slow.
Even can't close combat Grundy he can unload on him from the air or BFR him.
Iron Man's magnetic weapon made Hulk look like a toddler..and that was in the 80's.The Extremis version is a monster.
"
How the hell is he going to BFR him and no not all of them are slow, alot of them can tag Supes Flash GL etc and any of these guys would pretty much 1 shot IM


I know your a fanboy dude but seriously thats enough, almost everyone here agrees that IM gets curbstomped and the only reason he was put into a fight with Grundy is because he has terrible low showings like getting owned with pressure points
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#31  Edited By Liquid_Ice

And as I already said if this is the one that Supes fights then IM has no way of harming him

IM can be point blank range and his attacks wouldnt even tickle Grundy

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#32  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

I'm going to just stop trying to debate with you because you have an obvious bias toward Marvel and you will never give in no matter how wrong you are.

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#33  Edited By Liquid_Ice
Vance Astro said:
"I'm going to just stop trying to debate with you because you have an obvious bias toward Marvel and you will never give in no matter how wrong you are."
Right so your basically saying IM is going to do what Supes and most of the JLA cant
Why dont you just stop posting now, You are making IM look really bad
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#34  Edited By Liquid_Ice
Vance Astro said:
"I'm going to just stop trying to debate with you
Thank god

Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts
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#35  Edited By Lantern Prime

Im abouts to make another Chun Li vs thread....

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#36  Edited By Liquid_Ice
Lantern Prime said:
"Im abouts to make another Chun Li vs thread...."
ok wait how about Chun Li vs mmm i have no idea
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#37  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"I'm going to just stop trying to debate with you
Thank god

Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you.
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#38  Edited By Liquid_Ice
Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"I'm going to just stop trying to debate with you
Thank god

Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you."
gee some people just dont know when to quit
it isnt hard to see that IM loses badly here, Its just people like you who cant stand to see certain characters lose
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#39  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"I'm going to just stop trying to debate with you
Thank god

Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you."
gee some people just dont know when to quit
it isnt hard to see that IM loses badly here, Its just people like you who cant stand to see certain characters lose"
No..it's not about me letting anyone lose.I'm not saying Iron Man wins because I like him..I am saying he wins because he does.You haven't given me a logical argument.Your only response is Grundy beat the JLA..so the f#ck what? The Hulk be the core Avengers and the West Coast Avengers but lost to Iron Man solo 3 times..no Hulkbuster.So don't sit there and act like fights aren't played out in a way that makes it seem as if certain characters can do things beyond their limits.Grundy is nowhere near fast enough to tag Supes or Iron Man for that matter.
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#40  Edited By LordCosmicKing

now you know how i felt in the hulk firelord thread i can almost see u getting a pulsating vein in your temple  :P

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#41  Edited By Liquid_Ice
Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"I'm going to just stop trying to debate with you
Thank god

Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you."
gee some people just dont know when to quit
it isnt hard to see that IM loses badly here, Its just people like you who cant stand to see certain characters lose"
No..it's not about me letting anyone lose.I'm not saying Iron Man wins because I like him..I am saying he wins because he does.You haven't given me a logical argument.Your only response is Grundy beat the JLA..so the f#ck what? The Hulk be the core Avengers and the West Coast Avengers but lost to Iron Man solo 3 times..no Hulkbuster.So don't sit there and act like fights aren't played out in a way that makes it seem as if certain characters can do things beyond their limits.Grundy is nowhere near fast enough to tag Supes or Iron Man for that matter."
And yet he has tagged Supes Flash and GL any of who could kill IM instantly
Hulk beat a team that most of the JLA could solo, Hulk has never fought a team that would last more then a few seconds against the JLA
Hulk would be killed by most members of the JLA
See I can use ABC logic also

Simply put IM has no way to harm Grundy, Grundy can stand their and laugh at IM piss poor attempts to do any damage
At the very best IM flies away and Grundy doesnt bother coming after him which means IM loses by leaving the Battle Field

Face it IM is screwed here, you cant beat what you cant hurt and if Grundy gets his hands on IM then Tony is going to do the dead mans dance in hell " King Saturn "

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#42  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"I'm going to just stop trying to debate with you
Thank god

Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you."
gee some people just dont know when to quit
it isnt hard to see that IM loses badly here, Its just people like you who cant stand to see certain characters lose"
No..it's not about me letting anyone lose.I'm not saying Iron Man wins because I like him..I am saying he wins because he does.You haven't given me a logical argument.Your only response is Grundy beat the JLA..so the f#ck what? The Hulk be the core Avengers and the West Coast Avengers but lost to Iron Man solo 3 times..no Hulkbuster.So don't sit there and act like fights aren't played out in a way that makes it seem as if certain characters can do things beyond their limits.Grundy is nowhere near fast enough to tag Supes or Iron Man for that matter."
And yet he has tagged Supes Flash and GL any of who could kill IM instantly
Hulk beat a team that most of the JLA could solo, Hulk has never fought a team that would last more then a few seconds against the JLA
Hulk would be killed by most members of the JLA
See I can use ABC logic also

Simply put IM has no way to harm Grundy, Grundy can stand their and laugh at IM piss poor attempts to do any damage
At the very best IM flies away and Grundy doesnt bother coming after him which means IM loses by leaving the Battle Field

Face it IM is screwed here, you cant beat what you cant hurt and if Grundy gets his hands on IM then Tony is going to do the dead mans dance in hell " King Saturn "

"
See..THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT? It's bad writing..what about that don't you get?
And what you are saying about the Hulk has nothing at all to do with my point.
I wasn't saying the Avengers are equivalent to the JLA in any way.. I am saying that Hulk beat a team with Iron Man but lost to him in a solo fight.I t makes no f#ckin sense.I was relating that to slow as Grundy beating the JLA who we know have the range and the intellect to easily take Grundy.He's a f#ckin Zombie.
I'm not using ABC logic you f#ckin idiot.YOU ARE!
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#43  Edited By Liquid_Ice
Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"I'm going to just stop trying to debate with you
Thank god

Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you."
gee some people just dont know when to quit
it isnt hard to see that IM loses badly here, Its just people like you who cant stand to see certain characters lose"
No..it's not about me letting anyone lose.I'm not saying Iron Man wins because I like him..I am saying he wins because he does.You haven't given me a logical argument.Your only response is Grundy beat the JLA..so the f#ck what? The Hulk be the core Avengers and the West Coast Avengers but lost to Iron Man solo 3 times..no Hulkbuster.So don't sit there and act like fights aren't played out in a way that makes it seem as if certain characters can do things beyond their limits.Grundy is nowhere near fast enough to tag Supes or Iron Man for that matter."
And yet he has tagged Supes Flash and GL any of who could kill IM instantly
Hulk beat a team that most of the JLA could solo, Hulk has never fought a team that would last more then a few seconds against the JLA
Hulk would be killed by most members of the JLA
See I can use ABC logic also

Simply put IM has no way to harm Grundy, Grundy can stand their and laugh at IM piss poor attempts to do any damage
At the very best IM flies away and Grundy doesnt bother coming after him which means IM loses by leaving the Battle Field

Face it IM is screwed here, you cant beat what you cant hurt and if Grundy gets his hands on IM then Tony is going to do the dead mans dance in hell " King Saturn "

"
See..THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT? It's bad writing..what about that don't you get?
And what you are saying about the Hulk has nothing at all to do with my point.
I wasn't saying the Avengers are equivalent to the JLA in any way.. I am saying that Hulk beat a team with Iron Man but lost to him in a solo fight.I t makes no f#ckin sense.I was relating that to slow as Grundy beating the JLA who we know have the range and the intellect to easily take Grundy.He's a f#ckin Zombie.
I'm not using ABC logic you f#ckin idiot.YOU ARE!
"
Here, this is a pretty clear description of you


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#44  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"I'm going to just stop trying to debate with you
Thank god

Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you."
gee some people just dont know when to quit
it isnt hard to see that IM loses badly here, Its just people like you who cant stand to see certain characters lose"
No..it's not about me letting anyone lose.I'm not saying Iron Man wins because I like him..I am saying he wins because he does.You haven't given me a logical argument.Your only response is Grundy beat the JLA..so the f#ck what? The Hulk be the core Avengers and the West Coast Avengers but lost to Iron Man solo 3 times..no Hulkbuster.So don't sit there and act like fights aren't played out in a way that makes it seem as if certain characters can do things beyond their limits.Grundy is nowhere near fast enough to tag Supes or Iron Man for that matter."
And yet he has tagged Supes Flash and GL any of who could kill IM instantly
Hulk beat a team that most of the JLA could solo, Hulk has never fought a team that would last more then a few seconds against the JLA
Hulk would be killed by most members of the JLA
See I can use ABC logic also

Simply put IM has no way to harm Grundy, Grundy can stand their and laugh at IM piss poor attempts to do any damage
At the very best IM flies away and Grundy doesnt bother coming after him which means IM loses by leaving the Battle Field

Face it IM is screwed here, you cant beat what you cant hurt and if Grundy gets his hands on IM then Tony is going to do the dead mans dance in hell " King Saturn "

"
See..THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT? It's bad writing..what about that don't you get?
And what you are saying about the Hulk has nothing at all to do with my point.
I wasn't saying the Avengers are equivalent to the JLA in any way.. I am saying that Hulk beat a team with Iron Man but lost to him in a solo fight.I t makes no f#ckin sense.I was relating that to slow as Grundy beating the JLA who we know have the range and the intellect to easily take Grundy.He's a f#ckin Zombie.
I'm not using ABC logic you f#ckin idiot.YOU ARE!
"
Here, this is a pretty clear description of you
You call me a fanboy but I am making sense and you are using bad writing to prove your case.You're purposely reaching to try and prove your case but you call me a fanboy? That doesn't make sense.
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#45  Edited By Liquid_Ice
Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
"Vance Astro said:
"I'm going to just stop trying to debate with you
Thank god

Maybe now someone will give a legit defense for IM instead of ignoring facts"
You didn't post any facts.You were trying to use bad writing as a defense.I posted facts..not you."
gee some people just dont know when to quit
it isnt hard to see that IM loses badly here, Its just people like you who cant stand to see certain characters lose"
No..it's not about me letting anyone lose.I'm not saying Iron Man wins because I like him..I am saying he wins because he does.You haven't given me a logical argument.Your only response is Grundy beat the JLA..so the f#ck what? The Hulk be the core Avengers and the West Coast Avengers but lost to Iron Man solo 3 times..no Hulkbuster.So don't sit there and act like fights aren't played out in a way that makes it seem as if certain characters can do things beyond their limits.Grundy is nowhere near fast enough to tag Supes or Iron Man for that matter."
And yet he has tagged Supes Flash and GL any of who could kill IM instantly
Hulk beat a team that most of the JLA could solo, Hulk has never fought a team that would last more then a few seconds against the JLA
Hulk would be killed by most members of the JLA
See I can use ABC logic also

Simply put IM has no way to harm Grundy, Grundy can stand their and laugh at IM piss poor attempts to do any damage
At the very best IM flies away and Grundy doesnt bother coming after him which means IM loses by leaving the Battle Field

Face it IM is screwed here, you cant beat what you cant hurt and if Grundy gets his hands on IM then Tony is going to do the dead mans dance in hell " King Saturn "

"
See..THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT? It's bad writing..what about that don't you get?
And what you are saying about the Hulk has nothing at all to do with my point.
I wasn't saying the Avengers are equivalent to the JLA in any way.. I am saying that Hulk beat a team with Iron Man but lost to him in a solo fight.I t makes no f#ckin sense.I was relating that to slow as Grundy beating the JLA who we know have the range and the intellect to easily take Grundy.He's a f#ckin Zombie.
I'm not using ABC logic you f#ckin idiot.YOU ARE!
"
Here, this is a pretty clear description of you
You call me a fanboy but I am making sense and you are using bad writing to prove your case.You're purposely reaching to try and prove your case but you call me a fanboy? That doesn't make sense."
Dude your only defense is WHAAA Its PIS

I already told you Grundy Jobbing to Bats is PIS
Grundy is suppose to be around Supes level of strenght and durability or at least close

I guess you probably think IM can beat Doomsday also

Seriously just stop wasting my time Junior
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#46  Edited By LordCosmicKing

first of their are so many wholes in your argument,..

the A B logic doesnt mean anything especially when you are trying to accredited certain abilities that are not given to the character by the company.

beating any JLA member does not equate to being physically stronger, faster or having some kind of energy wielding immunity just because he fought a team with those abilities..

we dont see hulk  or grundy manifesting those abilities just because you think so.. i never seen grundy fly or run using a flash speed blitz...

vance instead of telling him no your wrong why dont you just explain IM capabilities like a sonic attack to disorient him or shut down his brain via civil war not sure if he has done it any other time im sure he has.. or him using an electrical attack using his palms direct at grundy's temple.ect ect ect.

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#47  Edited By Liquid_Ice
LordCosmicKing said:
"first of their are so many wholes in your argument,..

the A B logic doesnt mean anything especially when you are trying to accredited certain abilities that are not given to the character by the company.

beating any JLA member does not equate to be physically stronger, faster or having some kind of enery wielding immunity just because he fought a team with those abilities..

we dont see hulk  or grundy manifesting those abilities just because you think so.. i never seen grundy fly or run using a flash speed blitz...

vance instead of telling him no your wrong why dont you just explain IM capabilities like a sonic attack to disorient him or shut down his brain via civil war not sure if he has done it any other time sure he has.. or him using an electrical attack using his palms direct at grundy's temple.ect ect ect."
Yes because I am going to take anything the second biggest Marvel fanboy on this site says seriously
Why dont you stop wasting my time now
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#48  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Liquid_Ice said:
Dude your only defense is WHAAA Its PIS

I already told you Grundy Jobbing to Bats is PIS
Grundy is suppose to be around Supes level of strenght and durability or at least close

I guess you probably think IM can beat Doomsday also

Seriously just stop wasting my time Junior"
1.You are using ABC logic
2.You actually believe Solomon Grundy..a big ass zombie can tag Superman,Wonder Woman and The Flash logically

I don't care what you already told me.Making statements as usual isn't a case.

I don't think Iron Man can beat Doomsday but I think he can beat Grundy.
You're wasting time by not knowing WTF you are talking about...and not putting some actual thought into what you are saying.I said much more than call your dumbass argument PIS so stop acting like that's all I had because I put down alot more than that..you are dwelling on it because you don't have a real case for Grundy.
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#49  Edited By LordCosmicKing

tisk tisk tisk liquid i am hurt first i was the biggest now i am second and their is a laundry list of ppl on this site that you have also referred to by the same name.. which of us is it?

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#50  Edited By Liquid_Ice
Vance Astro said:
"Liquid_Ice said:
Dude your only defense is WHAAA Its PIS

I already told you Grundy Jobbing to Bats is PIS
Grundy is suppose to be around Supes level of strenght and durability or at least close

I guess you probably think IM can beat Doomsday also

Seriously just stop wasting my time Junior"
1.You are using ABC logic
2.You actually believe Solomon Grundy..a big ass zombie can tag Superman,Wonder Woman and The Flash logically

I don't care what you already told me.Making statements as usual isn't a case.

I don't think Iron Man can beat Doomsday but I think he can beat Grundy.
You're wasting time by not knowing WTF you are talking about...and not putting some actual thought into what you are saying.I said much more than call your dumbass argument PIS so stop acting like that's all I had because I put down alot more than that..you are dwelling on it because you don't have a real case for Grundy.
"
Comic books dont use logic, In fact most pieces of fiction don't so please dont pull that crap on me

Like I said kid stop wasting my time