Dark Knight Returns armor vs World War Hulk Hulk buster. Random encounter, no prep. Who wins?
Iron man (Hulk buster) vs Batman (anti-superman armor)
Hulkbuster wins. Keep in mind that the superman Bruce fought was weakened thanks to the nuclear explosion as well as the k-arrow shot by Ollie, which are the only reasons Bruce and his suit stood a chance in the fight.
With those factors gone from this fight, it's a stomp for Tony.
But Hulkbuster lost the fight dude. It can't be even compared to Hulk, just like Batman's suit can't be compared to fully powered Superman. BUT Is weakened Superman weaker then Hulk? Proof? Even weakened Superman was able to push around space ship couple times bigger then earth and Hulk has only continental moving feats.
Hulkbuster stomps. TDK Superman was a weaker incarnation that was weakened even further in the plot and holding back.
Hulkbuster stomps. TDK Superman was a weaker incarnation that was weakened even further in the plot and holding back.
This ^
Fighting an amped Hulk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barely holding your own against a weakened, holding back, and nearly featless alternate reality Superman.
@turr: hulkbuster hold its against highly AMP hulk
The version of superman got weakend by atom bomb (for some reason) and didn't charge for days/weeks from the sun
And at the end when batman was about to lose, Oliver shot kryptonite in his back, and even then batman only gave him few shots and he had to fake hart attack (superman knew it fake but let him go
Can you really compare it to WW hulk buster??
@wastelandman: Hulkbuster has any better feats? Superman was weakened but so was Bruce. He was a freakin old fart and just got stabbed multiple times the other night. So I think it's not really a good point. Still, Batman WON that fight! He took many hits from Superman without even getting a bruise on his suit. Hulk destroyed the Hulkbuster in a SECOND. Batman clearly wins this one.
Iron man stomps...his suit doesn't weaken his opponent to a lower level it amplifies his strength to a upper level.
@wastelandman: Hulkbuster has any better feats? Superman was weakened but so was Bruce. He was a freakin old fart and just got stabbed multiple times the other night. So I think it's not really a good point. Still, Batman WON that fight! He took many hits from Superman without even getting a bruise on his suit. Hulk destroyed the Hulkbuster in a SECOND. Batman clearly wins this one.
Fighting WWH isn't enough for you dude?
this superman got hit by atom bomb (which he is weak to for some reason), he didn't charched with sun for days/weeks and got hit by kryptonite
superman isn't much more than regular hulk in the first place, let alone massively AMP one compare to massively de powered superman
@whoisthebest: superman casually pulls spaceships so what?you mean to say that he was hitting him with the same strength.lol the fight would have ended in the first strike.superman was trying to reason with him the whole fight.do u seriously think superman was going all out in that fight?superman holds back immensely especially against Bruce in that fight.wwh never held back that massively in that fight.while batman's armor was durable as hell,I don't see it being more durable than hulkbuster and Tony also edges him out in offensive capabilities and versatility.Tony takes this at least 6.5/10 imo
@noone1996: Hulk was holding back to an unknown degree which was rather pitiful compared to when he actually cut loose.
@whoisthebest: *sigh*, because this is exactly what happened
the fact that hulk hit him like 4 times on pannel during the building crash and that he just got a flashback on his wife death and said to Tony "you killed her" and therefor angrier and stronger, and before that Tony actually had the upper hand, all this had nothing to do with the suit being destroyed right? not to talk about they were trading blows for a while before....
@ghostravage: I know you want to find some excuse to argue with me about Iron Man being fodder to Hulk, but Superman was also holding back to an unknown degree in the Dark Knight Returns and the World War Hulk-Buster's feats far outweigh anything that Batman's suit did in that comic. Even if Hulk was only using .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of his power, Stark was still able to hurt him with his punches and adamantium weapon. Tony can't possibly lose here.
I think the Hulkbuster takes home the win in this one. Superman was severely weakened by the Kryptonite AND he's known for holding back against weaker opponents. He's said so himself and done so. He wasnt going all out against Bruce. Hulk on the other hand wasn't holding back per se he simply just wasnt angry enough. Thats not the same. Hulk was fighting at the BEST of his abilities. The angrier he gets the stronger he gets. As he got angrier he got stronger. Thats not the same as holding back. The few times Superman solidly connected Bruces armor was badly damaged and one time he simply tore a piece off. The Hulkbuster took Multiple hits from a pissed off Hulk to a REALLY pissed off Hulk. IMO the durability clearly goes to the Hulkbuster.
So now Batman stands even a small chance against the suit that actually went against the the most powerful Hulk ever (holding back, it is impressive enough), using a suit that did not even give a fight to extremely weakened Superman who has zero feats to be even a high tier. Yeah, LMAO.
So now Batman stands even a small chance against the suit that actually went against the the most powerful Hulk ever (holding back, it is impressive enough), using a suit that did not even give a fight to extremely weakened Superman who has zero feats to be even a high tier. Yeah, LMAO.
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@whoisthebest: oh sorry, I guess I need to read the comic, something i am sure you did.... wait, something wrong with this sentenc, let me try it again
Read the freaking comic book before you debate it!!!!
Sure he holds back as much as he could, you can see it by the way he screamed "you killed her!!!!" as he talked on his wife, just after having a flashback about his wife, son and millions of his people die in front of him
@stahlflamme: Right, Hulkbuster durability trumps.
@whoisthebest: I respectfully disagree. WWH was definitely NOT holding back when he was fighting Sentry or many of the others during the WWH saga. Im not saying the Hulkbuster succeeded in stopping Hulk but it did do better than the Anti-Superman Armor which got wrecked way more quickly than the Hulkbuster. The first couple of seconds pieces got ripped off, and totally failed as Bruce got broken ribs seconds later, as shown in the scans while Hulkbuster took some solid blows.
Hulkbuster stomps. TDK Superman was a weaker incarnation that was weakened even further in the plot and holding back.
@picallo3798: It was confirmed by 3 different sources(including Hulk himself) that WWH was holding back during the entire event, now you may not like this but your feelings towards it don't change the fact.
@atheistknowledge: can you show those sources?
anyway WWH holding back>>>>>>>>> holding back depowered by 3 different things superman
Hulk was holding back that whole arc and only went World Breaker when he stopped holding back right?
@goldchamp101: Yea in that last pic, the last panel you can see him say he was holding back before but "not this time" and he literally proceeds to go into WBH mode.
@atheistknowledge: fair enough
My point still standing though
Not sure how much damage the HB armor took before the building fell on it (I don't see how an entire building falling on it and it being wrecked is a bad durability feat, but anyway). The Bat Armor was hit all of TWICE..the first one ripped his helmet off and was PUSHED back with an open hand. The second shot crumpled the metal armor and broke Batman's ribs. A severely weakened and holding back Superman (though I'm still very much of the opinion that, through tactics, Batman won the fight). The Bat Armor, certainly added to Bruce's strength but it seems pretty clear that Clark could have grabbed it by the shoulders and shredded it off of Batman.
The WWH Buster armor would have to be pretty weak to be less durable than that.
@heroup2112: the thing is that during the time the building fall on them (and it was damn tall building) hulk continue to hit the hulkbuster like 3-5 more times (i will re-look on the comic later)
The only reason it is bad feat is because some people try to lowball it
@tantani: Ah, well I honestly haven't seen the comic, except for the posted scans, I just know that Superman could have opened up the Bat Armor like a can of sardine's straight away if he hadn't been trying to use minimal force.
@atheistknowledge: the thing is, Tony hurt the hulk and even had the upper hand for a while
he maybe hold his punches, but he wasn't any less angry so his durability was crazy high, and Tony managed to hurt him, and even put him down and send nanobots that could depowered him, of course in only lust few seconds, but Tony put him down, and if this isn't amazing feat against this hulk, idk what is
@tantani: First off i agree that the Hulkbuster suit beats the Batman suit here, that's painfully obvious if you analyze everything.
Now with that said, yes not only was Hulk pulling his punches but he was controlling his anger and holding it back, which is why he almost lost it when Meek wounded Rick in front of him and he almost went WBH there because he could barely hold back his anger. Secondly Tony never really had the upper hand simply because he never hurt Hulk enough for that, hurting the Hulk is a term that varies GREATLY because Hulks damage soak is ridiculous i mean ZomStrange punched a hole through his torso with his giant fist a hole so big his fist actually came out of Hulks back and that didn't stop Hulk from even fighting let alone breathing, Sentry was literally scrapping his flesh and hitting him with at least city level busting power and Hulk didn't stop, the US military tore Hulk like Swiss cheese with adamantium bullets and again it didn't even stop him from fighting.
In comparison Tony did jack s#!@ to Hulk, so at no point did he really have the upper hand, he was throwing everything at Hulk and nothing was working even if he was hurting him it was so minuscule in comparison to the things Hulk suffered through and still continued to fight while as soon as Hulk damaged Tony's suit the fight was over for him.
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