Persons 1, 2 and 3 are going to race from point A to point B
This is the Milkyway Galaxy.
It's estimated to be 100,000 Light Years in diameter.
All the contendants are starting out where it says "Sun"
The finish line will be the Nucleus of the Central Bulge.
Who wins?
Instant Transmission VS Speed of Light VS Warp Speed
right, lets discount Light Speed instantly because it's way too slow to keep up with Warp Speed or Instant Transmission...
between Instant Transmission and Warp Speed it all depends on how much power is behind the Warp Core, for example, if you are pumping enough power into the warp core to allow for Warp 10 (2nd ed warp system), then you are everywhere and nowhere in the galaxy at once, so you can literally be there at the same time you are leaving the start point.
as for Instant Transmission, from what i've seen it always takes a few seconds for the 'effect' to happen, so thats secondary to warp speed...
also while Instant Transmission may be quicker in the long run at lesser warp powers, warp also allows for the 'bending' of space / time, making the win available via the use of time travel as well, which Instant Transmission can't do...
1. Warp Speed
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed
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"IT wins because it's instant. Thats why he calls it Instant Transmission.
but it isn't instant, it takes a few seconds for the effect to pass over the body on one side and a few seconds to rematerialise on the other...
it's basically like ST Transporter systems, faster in the long run but actually limited when faced with other options
M
"right, lets discount Light Speed instantly because it's way too slow to keep up with Warp Speed or Instant Transmission...i have just been educated... now to copy this print it and bring it up in science class...lolsz
between Instant Transmission and Warp Speed it all depends on how much power is behind the Warp Core, for example, if you are pumping enough power into the warp core to allow for Warp 10 (2nd ed warp system), then you are everywhere and nowhere in the galaxy at once, so you can literally be there at the same time you are leaving the start point.
as for Instant Transmission, from what i've seen it always takes a few seconds for the 'effect' to happen, so thats secondary to warp speed...
also while Instant Transmission may be quicker in the long run at lesser warp powers, warp also allows for the 'bending' of space / time, making the win available via the use of time travel as well, which Instant Transmission can't do...
1. Warp Speed
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed
M
"
"supertrooper117 said:what do you mean by speeds available?i have just been educated... now to copy this print it and bring it up in science class...lolsz
no, if you wanted science i would have actually listed the speeds available on each system and how long it would take for each 'contestant'
M
"
"right, lets discount Light Speed instantly because it's way too slow to keep up with Warp Speed or Instant Transmission...wow! just wow! where do u learn this stuff?
between Instant Transmission and Warp Speed it all depends on how much power is behind the Warp Core, for example, if you are pumping enough power into the warp core to allow for Warp 10 (2nd ed warp system), then you are everywhere and nowhere in the galaxy at once, so you can literally be there at the same time you are leaving the start point.
as for Instant Transmission, from what i've seen it always takes a few seconds for the 'effect' to happen, so thats secondary to warp speed...
also while Instant Transmission may be quicker in the long run at lesser warp powers, warp also allows for the 'bending' of space / time, making the win available via the use of time travel as well, which Instant Transmission can't do...
1. Warp Speed
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed
M
"
"right, lets discount Light Speed instantly because it's way too slow to keep up with Warp Speed or Instant Transmission...
between Instant Transmission and Warp Speed it all depends on how much power is behind the Warp Core, for example, if you are pumping enough power into the warp core to allow for Warp 10 (2nd ed warp system), then you are everywhere and nowhere in the galaxy at once, so you can literally be there at the same time you are leaving the start point.
as for Instant Transmission, from what i've seen it always takes a few seconds for the 'effect' to happen, so thats secondary to warp speed...
also while Instant Transmission may be quicker in the long run at lesser warp powers, warp also allows for the 'bending' of space / time, making the win available via the use of time travel as well, which Instant Transmission can't do...
1. Warp Speed
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed
M
"
Wow, someone's been doing their homework. You're right. Instant Transmission is as fast as the speed of thought. If you wish to be in one location; the person can instantly be there with a thought. But even though Instant Transmission allows person A to reach his destination alot quicker, that person needs to sense where he's going first.
And yes, the 2nd edition (if you meant Star Trek) of warp speeds (transwarp) is far faster than any of the Captain Kirk movies version of warp drive. In the movie Star Trek 4; warp 10 allowed Kirk and his crew to time travel. As the veiwer witnesses the screen, the klingon ship is gradually getting closer to the sun, but in actuallity.. the Klingon Ship flew around the Solar System 1000 times or more (can't convert star dates to modern years-sorry)
1. Warp
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed
"Oh and place the winners in order.1. Warp
1st place: ???
2nd Place: ???
3rd Place: ???"
2. Light speed
3. Instant transmission
"whenever goku got back to earth and was describing it he said that he had to lock on to an individuals energy signatureInstant transmission in the DBZU dont you have to see where your going in order to do it or lock on to a power source?
"
"Methos said:Actually thats not true at all. In fact, the only reason he puts his fingers on his forehead is to concentrate on trying to sense where the person is so he could transport to him/her. Otherwise he could do IT without it, like the kamahamaha he used against Cell, and he never put his fingers on his forehead. And....you know whats interesting, it's that Goku could go anywhere in the universe and he could sense that person within that universe. Thats like....omnipotence right there lol but without the reality warping."right, lets discount Light Speed instantly because it's way too slow to keep up with Warp Speed or Instant Transmission...
between Instant Transmission and Warp Speed it all depends on how much power is behind the Warp Core, for example, if you are pumping enough power into the warp core to allow for Warp 10 (2nd ed warp system), then you are everywhere and nowhere in the galaxy at once, so you can literally be there at the same time you are leaving the start point.
as for Instant Transmission, from what i've seen it always takes a few seconds for the 'effect' to happen, so thats secondary to warp speed...
also while Instant Transmission may be quicker in the long run at lesser warp powers, warp also allows for the 'bending' of space / time, making the win available via the use of time travel as well, which Instant Transmission can't do...
1. Warp Speed
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed
M
"
Wow, someone's been doing their homework. You're right. Instant Transmission is as fast as the speed of thought. If you wish to be in one location; the person can instantly be there with a thought. But even though Instant Transmission allows person A to reach his destination alot quicker, that person needs to sense where he's going first.
And yes, the 2nd edition (if you meant Star Trek) of warp speeds (transwarp) is far faster than any of the Captain Kirk movies version of warp drive. In the movie Star Trek 4; warp 10 allowed Kirk and his crew to time travel. As the veiwer witnesses the screen, the klingon ship is gradually getting closer to the sun, but in actuallity.. the Klingon Ship flew around the Solar System 1000 times or more (can't convert star dates to modern years-sorry)
1. Warp
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed"
"IT wins because it's instant. Thats why he calls it Instant Transmission.that's just what he calls it. that's like saying the hulk really is the strongest one there is just cause he says so. you need something more than that to prove it.
"
you can check the maths here and here if you want, but all Star Trek use exactly the same rules for Warp Speed...
now, if you check Warp 9.99, which is completely viable for Enterprise E Class (Soverign) and Voyager (Intrepid) class star ships...
Warp Factor 9.99 is equivalent to 7912 times C (the speed of light), or about 2,371,957,928 kilometers per second.
yes, you read that right... 2,371,957,928 KPS
while that isn't really fast enough for mass speed, that will give you an idea of how fast Warp really is...
taking into account Warp 10 and Time Travel which Warp system allows access to, i don't really see any other contender...
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"Hedatary said:Yea, just like how Juggs is the unstoppable when he is clearly not. And it pretty much is instant because once he disepears at Point A he is already next on Point B. It's already proven by Cell."IT wins because it's instant. Thats why he calls it Instant Transmission.that's just what he calls it. that's like saying the hulk really is the strongest one there is just cause he says so. you need something more than that to prove it."
"
"Perfect Cell said:"Methos said:Actually thats not true at all. In fact, the only reason he puts his fingers on his forehead is to concentrate on trying to sense where the person is so he could transport to him/her. Otherwise he could do IT without it, like the kamahamaha he used against Cell, and he never put his fingers on his forehead. And....you know whats interesting, it's that Goku could go anywhere in the universe and he could sense that person within that universe. Thats like....omnipotence right there lol but without the reality warping."right, lets discount Light Speed instantly because it's way too slow to keep up with Warp Speed or Instant Transmission...
between Instant Transmission and Warp Speed it all depends on how much power is behind the Warp Core, for example, if you are pumping enough power into the warp core to allow for Warp 10 (2nd ed warp system), then you are everywhere and nowhere in the galaxy at once, so you can literally be there at the same time you are leaving the start point.
as for Instant Transmission, from what i've seen it always takes a few seconds for the 'effect' to happen, so thats secondary to warp speed...
also while Instant Transmission may be quicker in the long run at lesser warp powers, warp also allows for the 'bending' of space / time, making the win available via the use of time travel as well, which Instant Transmission can't do...
1. Warp Speed
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed
M
"
Wow, someone's been doing their homework. You're right. Instant Transmission is as fast as the speed of thought. If you wish to be in one location; the person can instantly be there with a thought. But even though Instant Transmission allows person A to reach his destination alot quicker, that person needs to sense where he's going first.
And yes, the 2nd edition (if you meant Star Trek) of warp speeds (transwarp) is far faster than any of the Captain Kirk movies version of warp drive. In the movie Star Trek 4; warp 10 allowed Kirk and his crew to time travel. As the veiwer witnesses the screen, the klingon ship is gradually getting closer to the sun, but in actuallity.. the Klingon Ship flew around the Solar System 1000 times or more (can't convert star dates to modern years-sorry)
1. Warp
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed"
"
That is a point, but he needs to "see" where his going to pull it off without his fingers. Remember the fight between Goku and Geti Star Cooler? They were fighting at Instant Transmission speeds. But they where all fighting eachother at a local battle point.
With that in mind: when it comes to traveling to vast distances: Goku must "sense" and lock on to where he's going.
Actually thats not true at all. In fact, the only reason he puts his fingers on his forehead is to concentrate on trying to sense where the person is so he could transport to him/her. Otherwise he could do IT without it, like the kamahamaha he used against Cell, and he never put his fingers on his forehead. And....you know whats interesting, it's that Goku could go anywhere in the universe and he could sense that person within that universe. Thats like....omnipotence right there lol but without the reality warping.
um... no...
in everything i have seen it always takes about 7 to 8 seconds as anyone using IT has to use the 'remote viewing' to actually see where they are going so they don't end up in a star, a black hole or just inside a planet....
Instant Transmission Vs Warp - IT looses every time
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"Perfect Cell said:"Methos said:Actually thats not true at all. In fact, the only reason he puts his fingers on his forehead is to concentrate on trying to sense where the person is so he could transport to him/her. Otherwise he could do IT without it, like the kamahamaha he used against Cell, and he never put his fingers on his forehead. And....you know whats interesting, it's that Goku could go anywhere in the universe and he could sense that person within that universe. Thats like....omnipotence right there lol but without the reality warping."right, lets discount Light Speed instantly because it's way too slow to keep up with Warp Speed or Instant Transmission...
between Instant Transmission and Warp Speed it all depends on how much power is behind the Warp Core, for example, if you are pumping enough power into the warp core to allow for Warp 10 (2nd ed warp system), then you are everywhere and nowhere in the galaxy at once, so you can literally be there at the same time you are leaving the start point.
as for Instant Transmission, from what i've seen it always takes a few seconds for the 'effect' to happen, so thats secondary to warp speed...
also while Instant Transmission may be quicker in the long run at lesser warp powers, warp also allows for the 'bending' of space / time, making the win available via the use of time travel as well, which Instant Transmission can't do...
1. Warp Speed
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed
M
"
Wow, someone's been doing their homework. You're right. Instant Transmission is as fast as the speed of thought. If you wish to be in one location; the person can instantly be there with a thought. But even though Instant Transmission allows person A to reach his destination alot quicker, that person needs to sense where he's going first.
And yes, the 2nd edition (if you meant Star Trek) of warp speeds (transwarp) is far faster than any of the Captain Kirk movies version of warp drive. In the movie Star Trek 4; warp 10 allowed Kirk and his crew to time travel. As the veiwer witnesses the screen, the klingon ship is gradually getting closer to the sun, but in actuallity.. the Klingon Ship flew around the Solar System 1000 times or more (can't convert star dates to modern years-sorry)
1. Warp
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed"
"
it's not omnipotence....all he's doing is sensing their energy
"Hedatary said:lol dude, i said thats "like" omnipotence."Perfect Cell said:"Methos said:Actually thats not true at all. In fact, the only reason he puts his fingers on his forehead is to concentrate on trying to sense where the person is so he could transport to him/her. Otherwise he could do IT without it, like the kamahamaha he used against Cell, and he never put his fingers on his forehead. And....you know whats interesting, it's that Goku could go anywhere in the universe and he could sense that person within that universe. Thats like....omnipotence right there lol but without the reality warping."right, lets discount Light Speed instantly because it's way too slow to keep up with Warp Speed or Instant Transmission...
between Instant Transmission and Warp Speed it all depends on how much power is behind the Warp Core, for example, if you are pumping enough power into the warp core to allow for Warp 10 (2nd ed warp system), then you are everywhere and nowhere in the galaxy at once, so you can literally be there at the same time you are leaving the start point.
as for Instant Transmission, from what i've seen it always takes a few seconds for the 'effect' to happen, so thats secondary to warp speed...
also while Instant Transmission may be quicker in the long run at lesser warp powers, warp also allows for the 'bending' of space / time, making the win available via the use of time travel as well, which Instant Transmission can't do...
1. Warp Speed
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed
M
"
Wow, someone's been doing their homework. You're right. Instant Transmission is as fast as the speed of thought. If you wish to be in one location; the person can instantly be there with a thought. But even though Instant Transmission allows person A to reach his destination alot quicker, that person needs to sense where he's going first.
And yes, the 2nd edition (if you meant Star Trek) of warp speeds (transwarp) is far faster than any of the Captain Kirk movies version of warp drive. In the movie Star Trek 4; warp 10 allowed Kirk and his crew to time travel. As the veiwer witnesses the screen, the klingon ship is gradually getting closer to the sun, but in actuallity.. the Klingon Ship flew around the Solar System 1000 times or more (can't convert star dates to modern years-sorry)
1. Warp
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed"
"
it's not omnipotence....all he's doing is sensing their energy"
I thought of making this debate becuase of the thread where people says the Flash could beat the Enterprise lol.
"danhimself said:sorry most of the time i only skim others posts"Hedatary said:lol dude, i said thats "like" omnipotence."Perfect Cell said:"Methos said:Actually thats not true at all. In fact, the only reason he puts his fingers on his forehead is to concentrate on trying to sense where the person is so he could transport to him/her. Otherwise he could do IT without it, like the kamahamaha he used against Cell, and he never put his fingers on his forehead. And....you know whats interesting, it's that Goku could go anywhere in the universe and he could sense that person within that universe. Thats like....omnipotence right there lol but without the reality warping."right, lets discount Light Speed instantly because it's way too slow to keep up with Warp Speed or Instant Transmission...
between Instant Transmission and Warp Speed it all depends on how much power is behind the Warp Core, for example, if you are pumping enough power into the warp core to allow for Warp 10 (2nd ed warp system), then you are everywhere and nowhere in the galaxy at once, so you can literally be there at the same time you are leaving the start point.
as for Instant Transmission, from what i've seen it always takes a few seconds for the 'effect' to happen, so thats secondary to warp speed...
also while Instant Transmission may be quicker in the long run at lesser warp powers, warp also allows for the 'bending' of space / time, making the win available via the use of time travel as well, which Instant Transmission can't do...
1. Warp Speed
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed
M
"
Wow, someone's been doing their homework. You're right. Instant Transmission is as fast as the speed of thought. If you wish to be in one location; the person can instantly be there with a thought. But even though Instant Transmission allows person A to reach his destination alot quicker, that person needs to sense where he's going first.
And yes, the 2nd edition (if you meant Star Trek) of warp speeds (transwarp) is far faster than any of the Captain Kirk movies version of warp drive. In the movie Star Trek 4; warp 10 allowed Kirk and his crew to time travel. As the veiwer witnesses the screen, the klingon ship is gradually getting closer to the sun, but in actuallity.. the Klingon Ship flew around the Solar System 1000 times or more (can't convert star dates to modern years-sorry)
1. Warp
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed"
"
it's not omnipotence....all he's doing is sensing their energy"
"
"Apparition said:"Hedatary said:Yea, just like how Juggs is the unstoppable when he is clearly not. And it pretty much is instant because once he disepears at Point A he is already next on Point B. It's already proven by Cell."IT wins because it's instant. Thats why he calls it Instant Transmission.that's just what he calls it. that's like saying the hulk really is the strongest one there is just cause he says so. you need something more than that to prove it."
"
"
its pretty much instant but not instant.
"Hedatary said:"Apparition said:"Hedatary said:Yea, just like how Juggs is the unstoppable when he is clearly not. And it pretty much is instant because once he disepears at Point A he is already next on Point B. It's already proven by Cell."IT wins because it's instant. Thats why he calls it Instant Transmission.that's just what he calls it. that's like saying the hulk really is the strongest one there is just cause he says so. you need something more than that to prove it."
"
"
its pretty much instant but not instant."
It's instant to execute, but not instant to prepare.
"So Methos. How long would it take to walk a light year?"one light year is 63,241 AU...
which is about 5,878,625,373,183.61 miles if i got my math right...
so avarage walking speed os, what 7 miles per hour?
so basic maths here, time = distance / speed
Time = 5,878,625,373,183.61 / 3.12928 (i converted to Meters per second for ease)
Time = 839,818,247,909 hours approx...
which is about 95,814,974 years at avarage walking speed...
why?
M
"Perfect Cell said:I guess I'll start today then."So Methos. How long would it take to walk a light year?"one light year is 63,241 AU...
which is about 5,878,625,373,183.61 miles if i got my math right...
so avarage walking speed os, what 7 miles per hour?
so basic maths here, time = distance / speed
Time = 5,878,625,373,183.61 / 3.12928 (i converted to Meters per second for ease)
Time = 839,818,247,909 hours approx...
which is about 95,814,974 years at avarage walking speed...
why?
M
"
Haha
"Perfect Cell said:Jesus...What a god mode....."So Methos. How long would it take to walk a light year?"one light year is 63,241 AU...
which is about 5,878,625,373,183.61 miles if i got my math right...
so avarage walking speed os, what 7 miles per hour?
so basic maths here, time = distance / speed
Time = 5,878,625,373,183.61 / 3.12928 (i converted to Meters per second for ease)
Time = 839,818,247,909 hours approx...
which is about 95,814,974 years at avarage walking speed...
why?
M
"
Shakes head in disbelief
"Perfect Cell said:"So Methos. How long would it take to walk a light year?"one light year is 63,241 AU...
which is about 5,878,625,373,183.61 miles if i got my math right...
so avarage walking speed os, what 7 miles per hour?
so basic maths here, time = distance / speed
Time = 5,878,625,373,183.61 / 3.12928 (i converted to Meters per second for ease)
Time = 839,818,247,909 hours approx...
which is about 95,814,974 years at avarage walking speed...
why?
M
"
Oops, I didn't mean by the whole year, but by the second light travels. 186,000mps. How long will it take to without stopping to reach 186,000 miles by walking. I was just wondering becuase it takes around 30 weeks without stopping to walk around the world (that's 5mph-unless you're power walking). I wanted to compare how long it takes to walk around the world and map it to 186,000 miles distance so I can see how many Flat Earth can stretch and cover 186,000miles.
It's wierd question, I know.
"Methos said:There is this thing called a calculator that is perfect for problems such as this."Perfect Cell said:"So Methos. How long would it take to walk a light year?"one light year is 63,241 AU...
which is about 5,878,625,373,183.61 miles if i got my math right...
so avarage walking speed os, what 7 miles per hour?
so basic maths here, time = distance / speed
Time = 5,878,625,373,183.61 / 3.12928 (i converted to Meters per second for ease)
Time = 839,818,247,909 hours approx...
which is about 95,814,974 years at avarage walking speed...
why?
M
"
Oops, I didn't mean by the whole year, but by the second light travels. 186,000mps. How long will it take to without stopping to reach 186,000 miles by walking. I was just wondering becuase it takes around 30 weeks without stopping to walk around the world (that's 5mph-unless you're power walking). I wanted to compare how long it takes to walk around the world and map it to 186,000 miles distance so I can see how many Flat Earth can stretch and cover 186,000miles.
It's wierd question, I know."
"danhimself said:Actually it would be closer to omniscience (knowing everything)- but it is not even that because it is still limited."Hedatary said:lol dude, i said thats "like" omnipotence."Perfect Cell said:"Methos said:Actually thats not true at all. In fact, the only reason he puts his fingers on his forehead is to concentrate on trying to sense where the person is so he could transport to him/her. Otherwise he could do IT without it, like the kamahamaha he used against Cell, and he never put his fingers on his forehead. And....you know whats interesting, it's that Goku could go anywhere in the universe and he could sense that person within that universe. Thats like....omnipotence right there lol but without the reality warping."right, lets discount Light Speed instantly because it's way too slow to keep up with Warp Speed or Instant Transmission...
between Instant Transmission and Warp Speed it all depends on how much power is behind the Warp Core, for example, if you are pumping enough power into the warp core to allow for Warp 10 (2nd ed warp system), then you are everywhere and nowhere in the galaxy at once, so you can literally be there at the same time you are leaving the start point.
as for Instant Transmission, from what i've seen it always takes a few seconds for the 'effect' to happen, so thats secondary to warp speed...
also while Instant Transmission may be quicker in the long run at lesser warp powers, warp also allows for the 'bending' of space / time, making the win available via the use of time travel as well, which Instant Transmission can't do...
1. Warp Speed
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed
M
"
Wow, someone's been doing their homework. You're right. Instant Transmission is as fast as the speed of thought. If you wish to be in one location; the person can instantly be there with a thought. But even though Instant Transmission allows person A to reach his destination alot quicker, that person needs to sense where he's going first.
And yes, the 2nd edition (if you meant Star Trek) of warp speeds (transwarp) is far faster than any of the Captain Kirk movies version of warp drive. In the movie Star Trek 4; warp 10 allowed Kirk and his crew to time travel. As the veiwer witnesses the screen, the klingon ship is gradually getting closer to the sun, but in actuallity.. the Klingon Ship flew around the Solar System 1000 times or more (can't convert star dates to modern years-sorry)
1. Warp
2. Instant Transmission
3. Light Speed"
"
it's not omnipotence....all he's doing is sensing their energy"
"
warp speed
light speed
and than instant transmission
people need to take into account that instant transmission isn't as fast as people think
a group of scientists actually calculated how fast instant transmission is. and concluded it would only be 10,000 times the speed of light. light is insanely fast but still takes Eons to travel across the universe. for example the observable universe is 46.5 billion light years so using instant transmission and the formula of 10,000 times the speed of light it would take 4,650,000 years to cross the observable universe
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