Indestructible hulk vs Ms.Marvel, She-Hulk, Thundra, Gamora

Lol now failing to accept She-Hulk as equal to Hulk in power is sexist...

@noone1996: I love She Hulk but if she loses a battle I will admit it she can't win against that person or whoever.But you gotta look at details Iron Man and She Hulk never fought in a Straight fight and when ever they did encounter there was always something stoping them from going further during battle,the nanites,him knocking her in his Extremis Armor(His strongest armor etc....If they did fight in a Straight up fight we would never know who would really win until it happens.And if your saying She Hulk can't beat Iron man but Hulk has lost to Iron man before though?That knowledge won't work.I'm portraying her by her facts.Your love for Iron man is bias and I'm not overeating her I'm supporting every fact in detail.

You gave me one statement that has NEVER been proven or even hinted at on panel. All you're giving is your opinion which contradicts all of comics and every single Hulk expert out there. You're not showing me a single feat to back up your claims.

Feats are sexist.

Did you just assume my gender?!?!?!?

Did you assume that I assumed your gender?

@noone1996: Damn, you're more triggered than i am! Are you vegan?

@noone1996:

Aaaaahahaha

Question curious...does it matter if the Hulk has morals or not to beat these people? Or is it to give the team a fighting chance?

I really don't know honestly.

In character, Hulk will NEVER go full force against She Hulk.

@noone1996: I did not say anything about if She Hulk isn't Hulks equal it's Sexist.I said are you sexist torward,cause there many people I came across hate her so much just because sheshe's strong and is Hulks blood.Things like that make me emotional mentally and physically you guys just would never understand what an comic book character has gotten me through in life.I'm done with this topic.I hope you feel better about your gifts.

@shehulk528: I don't mean to be a prick. I apologize.

AAAAAHAHAHAHA, this is a pretty good troll actually.

Sex has nothing to do with it, jsut different characters with VERY different powersets. I actually like She Hulk. I like Spiderman too. And Thanos. Me liking them doesn't make them all equally powerful.

@20damon: But dude, we said that She-Hulk isn't as strong as Hulk... We're clearly sexist. Apologize you hetero cis gendered woman hating scum. Don't you dare even think about saying Black Widow isn't as strong as the Hulk too. That'll just dig you in a much deeper hole.

Well, right because the Hulk KNOWS they are family..........AH I THINK I understand what you mean.

Shit, i dug my own grave now....

Yeah, she's one of the few he REALLY cares for and he holds back a LOT when she is involved.

@noone1996: Apology accepted.Thanks for doing what you did.Now let's finish this debate.

@20damon:You don't have to apologize I'm not going to force you to do something you don't want to do.I hope you feel better about your self.

Extremis is his strongest armor,not to mention Extremis blended with the armor to give Stark enormous physical power as well,resulting in the strongest armor to date.Iron Man could lift up to 100 tons.His punch was as strong as a solid steel ball traveling at 3,500 ft./sec.And the armor’s boot jets could propel him at speeds up to Mach 8.7.

http://www.ironmanarmory.com/Extremis_Armor.html

And this Contest of Champions I'm guessing they fought before She Hulks power upgrade?Or Training?

Also about the villains that's not really fair to discuss as we know tony has certain armor for certain situations,She Hulk just has She Hulk.Tony has an Wide variety of armors.Extreme I'm not sure that's right,but gases probably.Heat no cause she just continued fighting unbothered from his booster jets she took to the face.Link: https://goo.gl/images/Giwegq

I'm not overrating her at all.Yes I really think Savage She Hulk could fight Hulk to a stalemate.When those two fought in Avengers #75 The Search For She Hulk there was no clear winner,the Aveangers separted them because they literally destroying everything in the area.I never said they would fight for eternity.

She Hulk not holding back right here was able to dent Tonys armor and knock some teeth of his out. https://goo.gl/images/2H4skT

https://goo.gl/images/KHCqgS Look at the comment Iron man made.Her strength are nearing Hulks level.Savage She Hulk has the potential to be as Strong as Hulk if not stronger the same strength.They had to take her away from the towm cause innocent people were there not to mention she destroyed half the town.Link:

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And look at Jennifer's comment after she put mental blocks on her mind after losing to Titania with the power gem. Link: https://goo.gl/images/vxUV8v

Being one shotted is a strong way to put it but I think she was just in shock cause her cousin hit her she didn't expect for it to happen.She was perfectly fine after the punch.

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So if both of today's incarnations of She Hulk and Iron man fought who do you think will win and why?The most up to dated versions are from Civil War 2 of course.

Hulk oneshots them all.

Hulk wins via Hulk-ness.

This is pointless.

They can't harm him... i mean they can hit him all day long they wont be able to KO him ever, while he can one-shot them all if he really wanted to.

Can we move on now?

Only person here that could really take him is She-hulk and Gamora (together) only if Hulk wanted to play around for a bit.

Jeez why is this thread still going ON?

wow this thread is old by the ways I only did this because this was my first battle thread so ease up guys.

@shehulk528: i know you very well girl, we are talk about she hulk in google+ community. lol. she hulk is incredibly strong, but i have yet to see her perform what the hulk has done currently. at one point, Professor Hulk punch through a machine that easily broke adamatium in 7 seconds. something i have yet to see she hulk perform. or something similar. that's why we both are waiting for she hulk issue 2. i just don't see she hulk on par with the hulk in terms of strength. even if she went all out, the hulk would still hold back on her knowing that the hulk has a cousin. there's no prove that she hulk is on par with the hulk at all.

@shehulk528 said:

Extremis is his strongest armor not to mention Extremis blended with the armor to give Stark enormous physical power as well,resulting in the strongest armor to date.

No it isn't. His Bleeding-Edge armor is. Implying that he somehow made this super specialized and most powerful armor is just ridiculous. It isn't his most powerful armor and Tony didn't design it that way. He so happens to have some of the best feats in his Extremis armor (still not as good as his Bleeding-Edge armor), but that doesn't mean he designed it to be the best.

And this Contest of Champions I'm guessing they fought before She Hulks power upgrade?Or Training?

Yes it was, but you haven't proven that she's gotten more durable since her power upgrade or training.

Also about the villains that's not really fair to discuss as we know tony has certain armor for certain situations,She Hulk just has She Hulk.Tony has an Wide variety of armors.

He didn't use any specialized armors to defeat characters that she lost against. For example, he KO'd Titania easily here:

Now let's see how She-Hulk compares:

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There are many instances in which She-Hulk is portrayed as equal or slightly superior to Titania. Point is, Iron Man casually KO'd her. That shows a pretty big gap.

Extreme I'm not sure that's right,but gases probably.Heat no cause she just continued fighting unbothered from his booster jets she took to the face.Link: https://goo.gl/images/Giwegq

In case you doubt me, here is She-Hulk getting taken out by gases and heat (hell, I'll even throw in electricity):

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You've already seen what Iron Man's electrical capabilities are, so I'll show you why his gas attacks and heat attacks will be enough too:

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The jet booster argument is especially bad since, in that horribly written story, Slott already starts off the fight with She-Hulk being briefly one-shotted and KO'd by his repulsors:

It's evident that she was KO'd, although briefly, just from his repulsors since Tony says, "before she comes to" which implies that she was unconscious, but woke up after Stark turned around. This not only implies that his repulsors were portrayed as more powerful/hotter/different from the jet boosters in this fight, but I'd say it also shows the gap between them.

I'm not overrating her at all.Yes I really think Savage She Hulk could fight Hulk to a stalemate.When those two fought in Avengers #75 The Search For She Hulk there was no clear winner,the Aveangers separted them because they literally destroying everything in the area.I never said they would fight for eternity.

By saying that, yes, you are overrating her. First of all, She-Hulk was EXTREMELY angry in that issue. She was so angry that her power levels were approaching Hulk's. Key word: APPROACHING. She still wasn't quite at his level, but she was close. Slightly below. That alone disproves your ridiculous ideas about her power. Second of all, she's not normally that powerful and angry. She was abnormally powerful because she was so angry. When she's in control of herself, she's nowhere even remotely close to this power level. Basically, she was amped in this instance. Even so, she still wasn't at the Hulk's base level of strength. When she's that angry she can merely hold her own against a holding back Hulk. Hilariously enough, even when she's at those levels of power, she still got one-shotted by Iron Man from a sucker punch lmao. Yet you think she's equal with Hulk? Give me a break.

She Hulk not holding back right here was able to dent Tonys armor and knock some teeth of his out.

Again, she was basically at Hulk levels here. Tony confirms this himself. She was amped due to her anger:

Also, he says, "I think I lost a tooth" which doesn't mean anything. He doesn't confirm that he does or does not. He basically just says that he felt the punch and that it hurt. The first time he tanks a hit from her he's perfectly okay:

A little piece of context you are also missing is the fact that Iron Man had just received damages from being piled by an entire city block which he had to save Cap and Wanda from being crushed by. His back up batteries took a second to kick in (which is pretty horrible writing since he's had mountains dropped on him without a scratch).

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Not only that, but after fighting the Hulk, her strength levels increased even more from when he initially claimed that her strength was nearing the Hulk's. So he was already damaged, working on back-up batteries, and her strength was even closer to Hulk's than originally at this point. Some much needed context I'd say. In no way does that example that you mentioned prove the gap between Iron Man and savage She-Hulk (who is amped).

https://goo.gl/images/KHCqgS Look at the comment Iron man made.Her strength are nearing Hulks level. Savage She Hulk has the potential to be as Strong as Hulk if not stronger the same strength.They had to take her away from the towm cause innocent people were there not to mention she destroyed half the town. Link:

She has the potential to be slightly below Hulk's average/base levels of strength. That's only if she's savage She-Hulk and extremely angry/amped. Ironically, even then Tony still one-shotted her with a cheap-shot. Some of his standard armors have stealth/invisibility so he could effortlessly replicate that feat even if someone dumb like Slott wrote She-Hulk as faster/more skilled.

And look at Jennifer's comment after she put mental blocks on her mind after losing to Titania with the power gem. Link:

None of your links are working. Idc what she says. She's not even above Iron Man, let alone Hulk. Hell, just take a look at how horrible she did against a Hulk-Buster:

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Being one shotted is a strong way to put it but I think she was just in shock cause her cousin hit her she didn't expect for it to happen.She was perfectly fine after the punch.

She didn't expect for the Hulk to hit her after she just got done giving him a bloody lip/nose? That doesn't make any sense. Especially since she wasn't "in shock" enough to dodge and punch him after he missed the first punch. She was one-shotted in every form of the word. Sure, she wasn't unconscious, but this was a casual slam by WWH. He was clearly greatly holding back here yet he easily incapacitated her.

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So if both of today's incarnations of She Hulk and Iron man fought who do you think will win and why?The most up to dated versions are from Civil War 2 of course.

Once again, none of your images worked. All I have to say is that you should be careful posting things from Civil War II when examining She-Hulk's power levels:

I know it's been retconned that she was almost killed by the missile, but it still did A LOT of damage to her:

She-Hulk isn't anywhere even remotely close to the Hulk. She isn't even in Iron Man's league. I think you need a lesson on just how powerful Iron Man really is. He's not in the mid-tier range like She-Hulk. Check out this thread to gain some knowledge.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/iron-man-178/iron-man-vs-mid-tiers-1875632/

I'm not gonna even bother replying if my links aren't working there's no need for me to reply.But I do wanna say something about this,How is her anger an amp?That's her power.If you wanna call that amp then Hulk(Bruce) is amped in most of all his fight.Stop with the one-sided crap.

Also I believe that Rocket was designed just for Thanos.(And she only was dazed with minor scratches.)Thanos himself did the damage.

Also she hulk was outsized(And Calm) by the Hulkbuster,when she turned savage(Gaining more muscle mass)that's shield agent's started calling in for the Hulkbuster.

Also when she was tazed by those millions of volts,it merely made her dizzy is all.Also that encounter with that Robot it used energy attack.And for that Human Torch ecounter she was weaker back than.And Iron Man koed her Titania with a blast(Not to mention was weakened.)

Finally she didn't knock Titania out due to the suit keeping her Strength in check and fluating at it's normal lvls.It's not like she was giving her all in that one punch.

But I been done with this debate

@shehulk528: Your post alone proves that when she's that angry and her "muscle mass increases" that she essentially becomes bigger/stronger. Is that not an amp? She's not usually that angry and savage which means she's not as powerful since the angrier she gets the stronger she gets. She-Hulk could never one-shot Titania like Iron Man casually did:

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Indestructible Hulk.

@noone1996: Do even know how you sound?That is she hulks power and she hulk does get angry she just knows how to control it(Emotions)

Also she hulk does not punch with everything she got.It doesn't matter if you knock someone out that merely just counts as a striking feat.She physically dominates Titania all the time.

@shehulk528: I happen to agree. In my mind she Hulk should beat Tony on the norm. With the exception of some powerful Armor. She Hulk is also often underrated. I've never understood why Jen has some great feats and battles out there and she is a great character to boot.

@shehulk528: But she's never that angry/savage so it's not a standard power level for her... That's like saying WBH is his standard power. She didn't dominate Titania as badly as Stark did.

@noone1996: Sometimes she is she just knows how to control her anger.(Instead of letting it get the better of her unlike bruce)

Also Iron man didn't beat her bad at all,he just used an energy blast to the gut.She hulk while restrained sent her flying out of New York city

@shehulk528: I know she can control it better, but because of that it makes her weaker when she controls it compared to when she's savage. Just like how Professor Hulk or Doc Green is inferior to Savage Hulk because they don't get as angry which leads to them being less powerful. She-Hulk has struggled to KO Titania. In fact, I'm not even aware of an instance where she has beaten her unconscious.

@noone1996: True,glad she's not controlling it now.She Hulk doesn't go in battles with intentions to KO people.If she really wanted to KO Titania she could.

Also that second scan under the gas isn't Earth 616 She Hulk.That's an alternate universe She Hulk.Also Hawkeye caught her at the moment she was inhaling.It's not so much that she wasn't resistance cause she is,he timed it where she was inhaling after needing air from being under water.

And she wasn't KOed by Tonys Full Powered Repulsors.You can even still the lingering blast on her.Tony said lock her up(He thought she was KOed)but the guy said to Tony "Uh Sir" and there she was back up.She tanked the blast.

As for the Heat resistance She Hulk tanked Volcana blast even though she was ambusbed.She was getting up after the blast but Volcana fired the roof causing it to collapse on Jen.She hulk was fine from the blast.

As for Johnny going to temperatures on the Suns lvl it's still impressive to me she could even bare it.Now that she's stronger now I'm sure she has a higher resistance to heat.

As for the electricity,she still tanked it.The second scan with the man tazing her it looked she was about to get right back up,she's still conscious,so I would say she tanked it.And the robot used an unknown kind of energy.(Can't say much on that)

Not sure if you read her comics,but what are your thoughts on her Grey form?

@destinyman75: Thanks

None of them can hurt Hulk, he can one shots every single one of them.

@20damon: She Hulk can hurt Hulk

@shehulk528: No problem, It's true as you know, she Hulk certainly can birt hulk. Heck since he holds back against her she can do some real damage to him with her strength and skills, Jen is awesome

@destinyman75: Extacly!(Your Awesome)

Hulk should take this rather handily. Carol isn't hurting Hulk, he should take out his cousin pretty easily as well. And going purely off her wiki page, which lists Thundra as a class 90, she shouldn't be able to do anything of note to Hulk either.

@shehulk528: ah thanks But (so are you). Or should I say awesome sauce

@20damon: @shehulk528: Define "hurt". Can she KO him? Make him dizzy? Break some bones?

I "hurt" myself when I bite my tongue. So to what degree can she "hurt" Hulk?

@destinyman75: Lol!Thanks

@p00ty: Cause damage,bleeding damage.

She has been able to Draw blood from Red Hulk on two occasions(I think she broke his nose on one of them),Draw blood from WWH,Temporarily restrain Hercules who was somewhat Bloodlusted etc....Her being the only 100+toner(Unless Carol went Binary) she makes a difference and if this is morals off she would get angry increasing in strength.Basically she can hurt him enough to where he would feel it.

But let's not forget Thundra who has fought Hulk as well.