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#151  Edited By Zoom
Static Shock said:
"Zoom said:
"Iceman can't even flash freeze Deathbird before she KOs him. 
One simple word. Plot. Deathbird was also able to inflict damage on Gladiator with her bare hands, when she's not strong enough to do so."

Don't even get me started on how powerful Gladiator isn't.

Deathbird is not even in the bottom 3 characters to hurt him badly.
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#152  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Deathbird feats are all CIS.Ms.Marvel & Rouge had trouble beating her.She's a good fighter but she's only class 7.

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#153  Edited By Static Shock
Zoom said:
"Don't even get me started on how powerful Gladiator isn't.

Deathbird is not even in the bottom 3 characters to hurt him badly."

Technically, Deathbird doesn't have the strength to hurt Gladiator. And, it doesn't make it right for the other characters either.
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#154  Edited By Zoom
Static Shock said:
"Zoom said:
"Don't even get me started on how powerful Gladiator isn't.

Deathbird is not even in the bottom 3 characters to hurt him badly."

Technically, Deathbird doesn't have the strength to hurt Gladiator. And, it doesn't make it right for the other characters either."

It's not PIS every time a character that can't hurt somebody like Superman hurts Gladiator.

Fact of the matter is, he isn't that tough.  Never has been.
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#155  Edited By Static Shock
Vance Astro said:
"Deathbird feats are all CIS.Ms.Marvel & Rouge had trouble beating her.She's a good fighter but she's only class 7."

Thank you.
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#156  Edited By Braise
Zoom said:
"Static Shock said:
"Zoom said:
"Iceman can't even flash freeze Deathbird before she KOs him. 
One simple word. Plot. Deathbird was also able to inflict damage on Gladiator with her bare hands, when she's not strong enough to do so."

Don't even get me started on how powerful Gladiator isn't."
Hey, you know what's funny? BB's taken on the Gladiator.
http://img158.exs.cx/img158/3928/gladss0fq.jpg
http://img232.exs.cx/img232/7655/gladss25uv.jpg

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Remember classic Shpinx ? the one that fought Galactus?
http://img67.exs.cx/img67/5563/vssphinx19mx.jpg
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BB > Black Holes
http://img125.exs.cx/img125/8040/holes6lm.jpg

Matter manipulation
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#157  Edited By Zoom

Cool scans, Braise.  What story were those first two from?

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#158  Edited By Braise
Zoom said:
"Cool scans, Braise.  What story were those first two from?"
Not sure, found 'em on the net.
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#159  Edited By Static Shock
Zoom said:
"It's not PIS every time a character that can't hurt somebody like Superman hurts Gladiator.

Fact of the matter is, he isn't that tough all the time (being one of the few truely variable characters).  Never has been."
It might as well be PIS if Deathbird really isn't that strong. And, most of the time, he is shown to be pretty durable. If not, he would have never been able to fight people like the Hulk, Thor, Silver Surfer, and other superhuman/cosmic beings. So,
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#160  Edited By Braise

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#161  Edited By Static Shock
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What does this scan prove?
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#162  Edited By Braise
Static Shock said:
"Braise said:
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What does this scan prove?"
Nothing. It's just so awesome. :)
These prove a lot, though.
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As you can see, BB could manipulate the atmosphere. If he extracts water molecules (the source of Iceman's power and DURABILITY), from around Iceman and uses a full-fledged Quasi, then Iceman is out for the count. Forever. Not that he needs to do much. He could revert Iceman into stone, like he did to revert the Thing.

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#163  Edited By Zoom
Static Shock said:
"It might as well be PIS if Deathbird really isn't that strong. And, most of the time, he is shown to be pretty durable. If not, he would have never been able to fight people like the Hulk, Thor, Silver Surfer, and other superhuman/cosmic beings. So,"
Oh don't get me wrong, Deathbird isn't that strong, it's just that Gladiator isn't either, especially at his worst.

For every powerful person he's hung with, he's done poorly against a comparative weakling.
Gambit, Deathbird, the Fantastic Four, Corsair.  The list goes on.

He isn't like Juggernaut, who fights the Hulk and wrecks teams of X-Men and then one day loses to Spider-Man and some cement so we call it PIS.  Half of the time he's strong, half of the time he's weak.  There's even an explanation for that in his confidence.

But that's neither here nor there.
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#164  Edited By Braise
Static Shock said:
"Braise said:
"Ironically, Iceman wouldn't be able to do that as he doesn't possess superhuman speed. Black Bolt does. BB can shatter planets. Where's Iceman gonna get his water then?"

Iceman doesn't have to have superhuman speed to see a punch coming. Speed doesn't come with reflexes. Two different things. How fast do you think Black Bolt moves? Anyway, when has Black Bolt shattered a planet?"
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2357/thing114qh6zi.jpg
I can't find that clip, but here's BB deflecting a solar flare that would otherwise consume the earth.

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#165  Edited By Braise

Oh, I forgot to mention. BB rips a whole in reality:

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#166  Edited By Zoom

Lol.

Mr. Fantastic thinks it might be a hole in reality.  So Iron Man sticks his hand through it.

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#167  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Zoom said:
"Lol.

Mr. Fantastic thinks it might be a hole in reality.  So Iron Man sticks his hand through it."
LOL.
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#168  Edited By Braise
Zoom said:
"Lol.

Mr. Fantastic thinks it might be a hole in reality.  So Iron Man sticks his hand through it."
 lol, that's what I thought. I mean, here we have two genius, heralds of the human mind... and then we see Iron Man stick his arm into a rift in reality. Good job Iron Man. Good job.
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#169  Edited By Braise
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#170  Edited By Braise
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#171  Edited By Ball Buster
Static Shock said:
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What does this scan prove?"
When Black Bolt speaks, people listen.LOL
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#172  Edited By Braise

lol Haha, nice.

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#173  Edited By Static Shock

LOL.

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mhhh tough match

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Currently ice man would win. Regardless of Black Bolts abilities iceman is currently omnipresent, unkillable even in human form, and powerful enough to freeze the entire world. Transmutation would do nothing to iceman. And for those saying he could possibly remove all moisture from the earth or area that's ridiculous. Bobby ' Boddy may be 100% ice but it has been stated before his ice is stronger and harder than ordinary ice. I believe he is producing either ice type 3 or due to his extreme temperatures that much of his ice is actually dry ice which is denser and stronger as well as heavier than ordinary ice. as Bobby is a free floating entity that is present in all moisture in the world simultaneously he could easily leave his conscious in the moisture present in black bolts body and create and control dry ice clones to fight black bolt or freeze him from the inside if Bobby hits absolute zero then that is another problem. No degree of molecular control can prevent an infinite amount of energy being drained from your body. Even if black bolt can control his own molecular structure what about the oxygen in his blood or the air and water in his lungs? Those wouldn't necessarily fall under black bolts control and Bobby could turn black bolts lungs into solid frozen oxygen and ice.

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Black bolt screams so loud al the water disappears on the planet them he shatter iceman.

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BB destroys the planet

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#181  Edited By The_Titan_Lord

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Bobby will be inside BB by the time he lets out a scream lol black bolt is not winning this

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I love black bolt and I know he loses this fight

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#184  Edited By Appzashok

Bobby ftw

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#185  Edited By ghostrider2

Bobby will be inside BB by the time he lets out a scream lol black bolt is not winning this

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Iceman freezes oxygen and impales BB with spikes.

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I say iceman

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@the_martian: ice man gets weakened from having to reform. If black bolt keeps talking he’ll die eventually

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Depend on where he reform, he could reform from inside the person. As an Omega mutant, he holds back a lot.

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@king_saturn: Bobby can’t keep reforming it takes a toll on him. After a few reforms he’d give up and get incapacitated by either remaining in a gas or water state or simply die. Black bolt can talk for as long as he wants, ice man will realize if black bolt keeps doing this the earth will be destroyed so he’d give up for the greater good

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going by powers and how they should work iceman wins going by feats and how things usually work in the comics black bolt whoops his ass

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Iceman stomps and adds the Inhumans/Attilan to one of Krakoas outposts