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I agree with most of what is said. Hulk IS truly STRONGER than Thor but Thor is MORE POWERFUL.
We must admit one thing. Hulk usually takes the edge on most figths because sales demand it wich is only fair, after all Marvel is a company wich the porpuse is to make money while entertaining its fans. And Hulk fans far surpass those of Thor in sheer numbers and Marvel has to work with that. If they sell more making Thor lose to Hulk that's what they'll do.
But discussions in fórums are different. We must have in account all we've seen from Thor not just against the Hulk but also against other characters. Against Hulk (wich you do admit)Thor goes on to physical combat wich he loses, but if he is to use all is powers (wich include the God Blast) Hulk would be toast.
That's what most fans of the Hulk can not cope with.
I'm not a big fan of any of these characters but I've read most of their issues in the last thirty years and to my account if Thor had to use all his powers Hulk wouldn't stand a chance. I think that's what pisses most of Thor fans. They all know what Thor is capable of and that's never shown on a figth with the Hulk. We all know Thor has defeated opponents far more powerful than the Hulk (even recently during the Chaos War arc) and he defeats them using the array of powers he has at his disposal. Against the Hulk, even if his life or the life of other people are at risk he simply does not display all his powers keeping the figth physical. In here is not is ego nor anything. It's what writers want because in similar situations against other characters he simply goes all out.
And Hulk fans cannot understand that. I'll keep defending Thor on this one until I see Thor using the God Blast on Hulk and Hulk resisting it (Huk in his normal incarnations and not amped by something).
Great article by the way.
@demifiend said:
all those stupid fanboys who said hulk beating thor is pis. there yo go. cry baby cry baby lol
Way to flame Thor fans for no reason.
@alexandrinus said:
Hulk IS truly STRONGER than Thor but Thor is MORE POWERFUL.
In an issue I read once Hulk openly admitted that the Thing was the toughest opponent he has faced or something to that affect....so, poor Thor
That article was REALLY, really good read
I think most people agree Thor is more powerful, but isn't as strong as the Hulk. Always a great fight to see though
I agree with most of what is said. Hulk IS truly STRONGER than Thor but Thor is MORE POWERFUL. We must admit one thing. Hulk usually takes the edge on most figths because sales demand it wich is only fair, after all Marvel is a company wich the porpuse is to make money while entertaining its fans. And Hulk fans far surpass those of Thor in sheer numbers and Marvel has to work with that. If they sell more making Thor lose to Hulk that's what they'll do. But discussions in fórums are different. We must have in account all we've seen from Thor not just against the Hulk but also against other characters. Against Hulk (wich you do admit)Thor goes on to physical combat wich he loses, but if he is to use all is powers (wich include the God Blast) Hulk would be toast.That's what most fans of the Hulk can not cope with. I'm not a big fan of any of these characters but I've read most of their issues in the last thirty years and to my account if Thor had to use all his powers Hulk wouldn't stand a chance. I think that's what pisses most of Thor fans. They all know what Thor is capable of and that's never shown on a figth with the Hulk. We all know Thor has defeated opponents far more powerful than the Hulk (even recently during the Chaos War arc) and he defeats them using the array of powers he has at his disposal. Against the Hulk, even if his life or the life of other people are at risk he simply does not display all his powers keeping the figth physical. In here is not is ego nor anything. It's what writers want because in similar situations against other characters he simply goes all out.And Hulk fans cannot understand that. I'll keep defending Thor on this one until I see Thor using the God Blast on Hulk and Hulk resisting it (Huk in his normal incarnations and not amped by something).
@alexandrinus said:
I agree with most of what is said. Hulk IS truly STRONGER than Thor but Thor is MORE POWERFUL. We must admit one thing. Hulk usually takes the edge on most figths because sales demand it wich is only fair, after all Marvel is a company wich the porpuse is to make money while entertaining its fans. And Hulk fans far surpass those of Thor in sheer numbers and Marvel has to work with that. If they sell more making Thor lose to Hulk that's what they'll do. But discussions in fórums are different. We must have in account all we've seen from Thor not just against the Hulk but also against other characters. Against Hulk (wich you do admit)Thor goes on to physical combat wich he loses, but if he is to use all is powers (wich include the God Blast) Hulk would be toast.That's what most fans of the Hulk can not cope with. I'm not a big fan of any of these characters but I've read most of their issues in the last thirty years and to my account if Thor had to use all his powers Hulk wouldn't stand a chance. I think that's what pisses most of Thor fans. They all know what Thor is capable of and that's never shown on a figth with the Hulk. We all know Thor has defeated opponents far more powerful than the Hulk (even recently during the Chaos War arc) and he defeats them using the array of powers he has at his disposal. Against the Hulk, even if his life or the life of other people are at risk he simply does not display all his powers keeping the figth physical. In here is not is ego nor anything. It's what writers want because in similar situations against other characters he simply goes all out.And Hulk fans cannot understand that. I'll keep defending Thor on this one until I see Thor using the God Blast on Hulk and Hulk resisting it (Huk in his normal incarnations and not amped by something).
kudos
the god blast hurt galactus and skyfather, imagine what it will do to the hulk
@demifiend said:
all those stupid fanboys who said hulk beating thor is pis. there yo go. cry baby cry baby lol
Context: Thor is completely stumped as for why no matter how many times they duke it out, with the Hulks range of power changing drastically each time, he can't put him down. Despite even in this case he was beating the tar out of him and knocked him into orbit. Nice baiting though.
In an issue I read once Hulk openly admitted that the Thing was the toughest opponent he has faced or something to that affect....so, poor Thor That article was REALLY, really good readThat must have been an extremely old comic (30 + yrs at least) back then Ben and the Hulk were actually pretty evenly matched until the Hulk was extremely enraged. That hulk is a different character from a different era of comics, Ben has not changed very much.
@alexandrinus said:
I agree with most of what is said. Hulk IS truly STRONGER than Thor but Thor is MORE POWERFUL. We must admit one thing. Hulk usually takes the edge on most figths because sales demand it wich is only fair, after all Marvel is a company wich the porpuse is to make money while entertaining its fans. And Hulk fans far surpass those of Thor in sheer numbers and Marvel has to work with that. If they sell more making Thor lose to Hulk that's what they'll do. But discussions in fórums are different. We must have in account all we've seen from Thor not just against the Hulk but also against other characters. Against Hulk (wich you do admit)Thor goes on to physical combat wich he loses, but if he is to use all is powers (wich include the God Blast) Hulk would be toast.That's what most fans of the Hulk can not cope with. I'm not a big fan of any of these characters but I've read most of their issues in the last thirty years and to my account if Thor had to use all his powers Hulk wouldn't stand a chance. I think that's what pisses most of Thor fans. They all know what Thor is capable of and that's never shown on a figth with the Hulk. We all know Thor has defeated opponents far more powerful than the Hulk (even recently during the Chaos War arc) and he defeats them using the array of powers he has at his disposal. Against the Hulk, even if his life or the life of other people are at risk he simply does not display all his powers keeping the figth physical. In here is not is ego nor anything. It's what writers want because in similar situations against other characters he simply goes all out.And Hulk fans cannot understand that. I'll keep defending Thor on this one until I see Thor using the God Blast on Hulk and Hulk resisting it (Huk in his normal incarnations and not amped by something).kudos
the god blast hurt galactus and skyfather, imagine what it will do to the hulk
Thor is planet buster since he was created.
Hulk needed to World Breaker, to destroy planet.
Thor stomps in normal battle and maybe stalemate in strength with WB Hulk.
@demifiend said:
all those stupid fanboys who said hulk beating thor is pis. there yo go. cry baby cry baby lol
I know - that is why You're here ;)@czarny_samael666:
nice!! fanboys are already showing.
blah blah blah, thor planet buster, midgar serpent, blah blah.
thor already admit he could beat the hulk deal with it.
thor is a jobber.
lmfao!!
@czarny_samael666:
i would like to read something new, cause its always the same, no arguments at all, just stupid feats of thor, when he cant even beat hulk.
let me know when you have something.
meanwhile lets respect marvel canon,
do you think that clown can give a decent fight to superman, WW, Black Adam, thanos, Darkseid, ect.? Seriously? I mean... Seriously?? XD
@czarny_samael666: I wouldn't say Thor beat Hulk there in that fight because Thor collapsed and needed to be healed by Odin while Hulk just flew somewhere else without any damage and just continued with his mission, to cause fear around the world. If he decided to fly back and continue the fight Thor would have been in trouble.
With that much power in tiny small sized people it would be easy to knock each other around the planet.
http://www.old-wizard.com/the-hulk-vs-thor
Thor was weakened before that fight fyi. Also, check out the link.
Prove this ;)People!!! In a slug fest(H2H) Hulk wins. Using all powers Thor wins. Thank You for your time
Thor is more powerful, WB Hulk is stronger. The end.
@czarny_samael666: I wouldn't say Thor beat Hulk there in that fight because Thor collapsed and needed to be healed by Odin while Hulk just flew somewhere else without any damage and just continued with his mission, to cause fear around the world. If he decided to fly back and continue the fight Thor would have been in trouble.
With that much power in tiny small sized people it would be easy to knock each other around the planet.
http://www.old-wizard.com/the-hulk-vs-thor
Thor was weakened before that fight fyi. Also, check out the link.
@czarny_samael666:
i would like to read something new, cause its always the same, no arguments at all, just stupid feats of thor, when he cant even beat hulk.
let me know when you have something.
meanwhile lets respect marvel canon,
do you think that clown can give a decent fight to superman, WW, Black Adam, thanos, Darkseid, ect.? Seriously? I mean... Seriously?? XD
Andjust stupid feats of thor,
when he cant even beat hulk.
I'm with Czarny.
World Breaker is the only Hulk that may be equal to or close to Thor in strength.
Every other version should be massively stomped
@czarny_samael666: Thor's wound from The Mighty Thor played no part in the battle with Nul, because we don't know if that event took place before or after Fear Itself. and even with the wound He seemed to be doing fine against Silver Surfer. Anyway, I do think he was weakened before the fight. He got a beatdown from Odin, He was imprisoned and teleported against his will twice, and he let Nul and Angrir smack him around a bit before he battled them more seriously.Before.
@PunkMastaFlex said:
http://www.old-wizard.com/the-hulk-vs-thor
Thor was weakened before that fight fyi. Also, check out the link.
I was just pointing out some facts that's all. Truthfully, Thor I don't believe to be as strong or durable as an enraged Hulk, but he (Thor) has the versatility to deal with him no problem.
You have a guy that only has brute strength and a healing factor vs a guy with near equal strength with 100s of magical attacks and abilities.
@czarny_samael666:
Odin at his most powerful can take on a hungry to mid Galactus at best (He'll still lose to a mid fed however) given Odin's feats ranging from destroying galaxies as a side effect to shaking the multiverse with his battle against Seth I believe.
@SlimJ87D:
Durability towards certain areas, yes. Thor's still shown that he can take attacks outside of physical brutality alot moreso than the Hulk can.
@TheGoldenOne said:We can never be too certain about the timeline with Marvel -___- I just hope that The Mighty Thor is not canon. It's full of PIS. Fraction sucks. I don't think Thor's astro armor helps in any way, because it wasn't stated. Maybe he just stopped holding back. I hope Fraction explains that soon >_> As for Odin and Galactus.... I don't even know what to say about that one... -___-@czarny_samael666: Thor's wound from The Mighty Thor played no part in the battle with Nul, because we don't know if that event took place before or after Fear Itself. and even with the wound He seemed to be doing fine against Silver Surfer. Anyway, I do think he was weakened before the fight. He got a beatdown from Odin, He was imprisoned and teleported against his will twice, and he let Nul and Angrir smack him around a bit before he battled them more seriously.Before. 1.They are still on Earth and Asgard doesn't exist. 2.Thor will die/be banish in FI Besides, Thor still fought with Serpent's army and was pretty much hurt after Serpent's BFR-beam. He also was hurt few times by Angrir, which means that Nul had help there. And still it isn't Hulk himself, but boosted entity (so we pretty much agree ;) ). Against Surfer he had new armor and... sorry but I'm taking Fraction seriously in this comic. In MT #4 Surfer is smashing Thor like nothing and in MT #5 not only he has problems with Thunder God, but Odin is giving problems to Galactus. O_O
And I belive that You're more reasonable than... You know... people ;)@PunkMastaFlex said:
http://www.old-wizard.com/the-hulk-vs-thor
Thor was weakened before that fight fyi. Also, check out the link.
I was just pointing out some facts that's all. Truthfully, Thor I don't believe to be as strong or durable as an enraged Hulk, but he (Thor) has the versatility to deal with him no problem.
You have a guy that only has brute strength and a healing factor vs a guy with near equal strength with 100s of magical attacks and abilities.
@czarny_samael666:
Current Hulk > Rulk. World Breaker Hulk's feats outclasses those of Rulks easily if you bar Leob Rulk.
@czarny_samael666 said:1.Yeah, but neither in DC ;(@TheGoldenOne said:We can never be too certain about the timeline with Marvel -___- I just hope that The Mighty Thor is not canon. It's full of PIS. Fraction sucks. I don't think Thor's astro armor helps in any way, because it wasn't stated. Maybe he just stopped holding back. I hope Fraction explains that soon >_> As for Odin and Galactus.... I don't even know what to say about that one... -___-@czarny_samael666: Thor's wound from The Mighty Thor played no part in the battle with Nul, because we don't know if that event took place before or after Fear Itself. and even with the wound He seemed to be doing fine against Silver Surfer. Anyway, I do think he was weakened before the fight. He got a beatdown from Odin, He was imprisoned and teleported against his will twice, and he let Nul and Angrir smack him around a bit before he battled them more seriously.Before. 1.They are still on Earth and Asgard doesn't exist. 2.Thor will die/be banish in FI Besides, Thor still fought with Serpent's army and was pretty much hurt after Serpent's BFR-beam. He also was hurt few times by Angrir, which means that Nul had help there. And still it isn't Hulk himself, but boosted entity (so we pretty much agree ;) ). Against Surfer he had new armor and... sorry but I'm taking Fraction seriously in this comic. In MT #4 Surfer is smashing Thor like nothing and in MT #5 not only he has problems with Thunder God, but Odin is giving problems to Galactus. O_O
Mid Galactus is a normal Galactus. And once Doom with his power one-shotted Odin. Which also makes sense since Galan is almost a universal one and Odin "only" galaxy buster.@czarny_samael666:
Odin at his most powerful can take on a hungry to mid Galactus at best (He'll still lose to a mid fed however) given Odin's feats ranging from destroying galaxies as a side effect to shaking the multiverse with his battle against Seth I believe.
Yeah, but if we're talking about all Hulks... Slim, said that enraged Hulk outclasses Thor and Hulk who losed to Rulk wasn't calm down.@czarny_samael666:
Current Hulk > Rulk. World Breaker Hulk's feats outclasses those of Rulks easily if you bar Leob Rulk.
@czarny_samael666:
Since Hulk's only power really is physical brutality (Maybe Gamma now), it's always going to outclass Thors. He's shaken the east coast, dented an entire continent, and destroyed a planet by colliding with red she Hulk.
@czarny_samael666 said:
Did he even ever fought in way Thor fought with Super-gods (Skyfathers,Elders, etc.) like Surtur,Glory or Atum? No.
Well Hulk did tangle with Zeus a while back. Of course that didn't go so well for him. lol
On that note. Didn't Thor once fight Zeus, which ended up lasting for days or something, and was a stalemate? I remember them fighting and it was nothing like the curbstomp Zeus gave Hulk. But can't recall the details.
@czarny_samael666: Nice scans. The best durability feats I can think of for Hulk is being shot through a asteroid and his fight with red she hulk during that whole wishing well incident. @PunkMastaFlex: probably has the most Hulk and Thor scans I have seen. He would have the best saying on the matter of strength and durability between the two that I know of.
Thor fought with him, yes, but Zeus was only testing him. He probably was only using his strength there, but against Hulk too...@czarny_samael666 said:
Did he even ever fought in way Thor fought with Super-gods (Skyfathers,Elders, etc.) like Surtur,Glory or Atum? No.Well Hulk did tangle with Zeus a while back. Of course that didn't go so well for him. lol
On that note. Didn't Thor once fight Zeus, which ended up lasting for days or something, and was a stalemate? I remember them fighting and it was nothing like the curbstomp Zeus gave Hulk. But can't recall the details.
And it never outclassed it.@czarny_samael666:
Since Hulk's only power really is physical brutality (Maybe Gamma now), it's always going to outclass Thors. He's shaken the east coast, dented an entire continent, and destroyed a planet by colliding with red she Hulk.
@demifiend: Thor has beaten the Hulk before, if you read the article you would see it. It's true that would lose to Hulk in pure strenght, but just because of that you can't deny all the other things he did. And if you read the whole article you will see that Hulk only really defeated Thor twice while Thor also defeated him twice, which is a contradiction with Thor saying he could never beat the Hulk, but if you read Thor's next line it will leave you in doubt if he really meant it, if you read the article it will give you an explanation of what happened in each of their fights. I'm not trying to fight or to say you are wrong, troll you or anything to that effect, I'm just saying what I think.
@Alurvelve: Yeah that fight really happened but Zeus wasn't really trying to kill Thor, if he was he would've.
Thanks. I know that scan. This is a great durability feat, clearly taking planet busting. But still Thor was able to break through Umar's spell and survived in heart of Sun. So even since it would be somehow comparable, it still is much below Thor's one. And I am not talking even about Mjolnir's feats ;)@czarny_samael666: Nice scans. The best durability feats I can think of for Hulk is being shot through a asteroid and his fight with red she hulk during that whole wishing well incident. @PunkMastaFlex: probably has the most Hulk and Thor scans I have seen. He would have the best saying on the matter of strength and durability between the two that I know of.
@TheMightyAvenger said:
@demifiend: Thor has beaten the Hulk before, if you read the article you would see it. It's true that would lose to Hulk in pure strenght, but just because of that you can't deny all the other things he did. And if you read the whole article you will see that Hulk only really defeated Thor twice while Thor also defeated him twice, which is a contradiction with Thor saying he could never beat the Hulk, but if you read Thor's next line it will leave you in doubt if he really meant it, if you read the article it will give you an explanation of what happened in each of their fights. I'm not trying to fight or to say you are wrong, troll you or anything to that effect, I'm just saying what I think.
Well said my friend. Stop the madness and just read the article...
@czarny_samael666: I can't hold it against Thor but i assume he uses that hammer because it helps him. Hulk knocks him around using his fist. Hulk has more strength feats to me cuz Thor always is using his hammer and god powers. If thor wants to prove something he should put down the hammer.
Um... I am not sure that You've seen scans that I've posted, because:@czarny_samael666: I can't hold it against Thor but i assume he uses that hammer because it helps him. Hulk knocks him around using his fist. Hulk has more strength feats to me cuz Thor always is using his hammer and god powers. If thor wants to prove something he should put down the hammer.
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