The Rules
- Standard gear
- Win by Death, K.O or surrender
- Fight takes place in Gotham City
He should stop at Nihilus.
Just to clarify.
Hulk has in fact resisted a draining device that incapacitated the Silver Surfer. And let's be honest, the Surfer's personal power is in large magnitudes above anything seen in the Star Wars Universe so far.
Definitely does not clear.
And it usually serves purpose to provide reasons for such assertions :-)
Especially when the character your arguing against has accumulated 50 years of rather impressive feats. A little fact that, makes any SW personality an 'underdog' in this match up. And I daresay that Hulk wouldn't have much more trouble facing every single one of the aforementioned characters in a battle, rather than just one specific individual.
@ziggystardust: Why do you say that? Sideous alone should give him hell, given that he is powerful enough to casually create force storms that can wipe out entire fleets of starships and scour the life from planets
Because brute force only gets you so far against a guy who has galaxy wide feats. Sidious mastery of the force is to good. And besides, Sidious vs Hulk has been done and Sidious wins flatout.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/darth-sidious-vs-the-hulk-747927/
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/darth-sidious-vs-wwhulk-700192/
@ziggystardust: Why do you say that? Sideous alone should give him at least a hell of a fight, given that he is powerful enough to casually create force storms that can wipe out entire fleets of starships and scour the life from planets
I have already addressed the phenomena of "force storms" in a different thread(click me). An argument that remained largely uncontested - if you'd like to address it. However, I'll gladly (re)post the reasons to clear up any uncertainty. In short; Force storms are virtually useless in a direct confrontation. As seen in his final duel with Luke aboard the Eclipse.This is a fact made pretty obvious from his inability to use one against Luke and Leia standing right in front of him. Which shouldn't be such a surprise, because according Palaptine's own conviction, and the words of Dark Empire's narrator - he couldn't control them completely.
Now use that thinking muscle jimmy. In the event of Hulk vs all of the above, what is likely to happen if Palpatine opens up his void in the middle of battle? It's rather apparent that he'll not only be killing himself, but taking his teammates along with him.
Edit: @cpt_nice; that sort of logic literally isn't worth my time.
@ziggystardust: Just a thing, he's not fighting against all of them at the same time; they are fighting Hulk on a 1 vs 1. If Hulk gets past Malak, then he goes against Obi Wan and so on.
@ziggystardust: Just a thing, he's not fighting against all of them at the same time; they are fighting Hulk on a 1 vs 1. If Hulk gets past Malak, then he goes against Maul and so on.
I'm plenty aware of how a gauntlet works. I'm simply declaring that they'd have a better chance teaming up. Something that would push their odds slightly above zero.
Edit: @cpt_nice; that sort of logic literally isn't worth my time.
The kind of logic that makes sense you mean?
Sidious hurls him towards Saturn. Or sucks him in a black hole.
@ziggystardust: Just a thing, he's not fighting against all of them at the same time; they are fighting Hulk on a 1 vs 1. If Hulk gets past Malak, then he goes against Maul and so on.
I'm plenty aware how a gauntlet works. I'm simply declaring that they'd have a better chance teaming up. Something that would push their odds slightly above zero.
Fair enough then.
It really depends on what version of Hulk this is, but he'd probably stop at Windu seeing as Windu is fast enough to decapitate Hulk before things get outta hand. There's no way he's making it past Nihilus, though.
Because brute force only gets you so far against a guy who has galaxy wide feats. Sidious mastery of the force is to good. And besides, Sidious vs Hulk has been done and Sidious wins flatout.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/darth-sidious-vs-the-hulk-747927/
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/darth-sidious-vs-wwhulk-700192/
So, 6 star wars fans decided Palpatine wins?
What are the Star Wars' characters defense against a thunderclap of nuclear proportions?
What are the Star Wars' characters defense against a thunderclap of nuclear proportions?
Death.
Hulk ears with ease.
Anything Sidious' force storms can do Hulk has resisted. That includes forced teleportation. Also destroying a Star Wars ship doesn't mean you have the destructive force to beat The Hulk. Not by a long shot.
@nuclearrebirth: the above linked threads already prove hulk loses. Also hulk has too many low end feats in his own comics to overcome starwars.
@royal_warrior: abeloth or grandmaster Luke kill him. Any of the celestials. Center point station. Any force user with enough power to send him to a star. Easy
Low end feats? You mean like getting slowly picked up by a ponderous and wounded cyborg, struggling futilely and being thrown down a reactor shaft? ;)
Seriously though it's not really credible just to say "low end feats" and leave it at that. You need to give specific examples.
These two scans demonstrate that Darth Sidious' force storm couldn't be used to BFR The Hulk or to cause him any significant harm. This of course assumes that he would deploy in close proximity to his person.
@nuclearrebirth: I enjoy how there are already two threads here where sidious stomped hulk so stop. That's a movie feat were using EU. These feats literally do not stop sidious from just chucking him into space or using force storm to kill. Yeah force storm is hard to control but it doesn't really matter. It will hit hulk. It will kill hulk. If it kills sidious so what? He turns into his ghost form. His ability killed them both so he wins. Just because some random in a scan said hulk can go where he wants doesn't stop sidious from throwing him into space XD. You tried though. Telekinesis has stopped hulk in the past
Come on dude you don't need to lean on those old fogey threads. You can make arguments of your own.
Palpie goes down the same way in all continuities. Vader grabs him, he struggles and then gets plunked down the hole.
That scan shows that The Hulk can't be teleported. There's others like it where he bends and pushes through storms and anomalies that warp space time.
There's also no way that any Jedi or Sith's telekinesis can hurt The Hulk. Not unless it's got enough power to move a planet out of orbit.
@nuclearrebirth: sure I do. They were a stomp in sidious' favour so they support me. You on the other hand do not have threads to support hulk. Like I said hulk has been stopped by TK before. Palpy throws him away
I don't think you understand, this isn't a legal case, precedent doesn't factor into it. What matters are the arguments being made here and now. If you think this is such a stomp in Palpatine's favor then call a mod to have it locked. You'd be wasting your time though.
Back to the topic at hand. On what basis do you think Palpatine's telekinesis is enough to harm The Hulk or BFR him? Let's see some feats.
Stops at Nihilus. Can’t fight when your Astral form is projected from your physical form while simultaneously being drained into someone else’s body.
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