@cosmic_lantern:
Unlimited chakra: 1 statement from a guy whose reserves while added on top of Hashirama cells are so vast they might as well be.
Along with a statement from a guy who cast the Jutsu himself and another from a guy who proceeded to checkmate the caster. I'd say it carries more weight.
Edos have limits: Tobirama running out, Hiruzen running out, Hashirama having his Sage Mode absorbed
Hash having his unlimited chakra doesn't mean unlimited senjutsu, and even then who says he absorbed it all? Sasuke interrupted him.
Clearly Edos have limits.
Not on chakra bud, it's specifically stated numerous times. In-fact the entirety of the war shows otherwise, two examples vs over 150+ chapters, you take your pick.
UNLIMITED CHAKRA, do you know what that means? It means UNLIMITED PHYSICAL ENERGY and UNLIMITED SPIRITUAL ENERGY. Edos do not get infinite amounts of this due to being immortal.
1. A body that never deteriorates or tires
2. An immortal soul trapped in a living body
I think that fits the criteria perfectly for unlimited chakra.
You proved my point. If Edos had unlimited chakra, (according to your statement on how Hashi shouldn't be able to absorb Madara's jutsu if he has unlimited chakra) Hashirama couldn't have had his SM absorbed and Tobirama would have no problem spamming Hiraishin. And Tobirama stating "only four clones" (or however many it was) shows that clearly he had ran low on chakra, especially since it surprised him there was no indication that he just needed to build up more, he actually couldn't.
What proof do you have that he couldn't? Minato has the reserves to FTG GG Madara to infinity but does he do so in every showing? Absolutely not, it's irrational for a character,
Biju technically have unlimited chakra being composed of it and all and also being nigh-immortal, and they have to build up chakra constantly in order to use certain Jutsu.
Madara didn't feign defeat, he clearly stated that isn't how he wanted things to go. He never stated that he could defeat Hashirama, but he did imply that he'd be able to once he was brought back to life. Bottom line, Edo Madara cannot defeat Edo Hashi, let alone living Hashi.
Looking at this logically, Edo madara STOMPS edo hash theirs absolutely no reason edo hash would even be on his level. He didn't even attempt to use wood release or susanoo clones or any other rinnegan ability at that in the fight.
Madara did feign defeat, he already seen obito had failed, and stopped trying. Hashirama himself even said he didn't defeat him but immobilized momentarily, thats when his clone showed up and informed him of the rest. Scans clear as day show that but I guess it has to be repeated for whatever reason.
The fact that Kakashi at that time hadn't shown the ability to insta-Kamui a human sized object like in War Arc, and Itachi is faster, has Susanoo, can seal Kakashi.
His first ever usage he sniped a limb off of a flying target, his second ever usage he sniped a clay filled deidara after it exploded. Itatchi isn't faster than kakashi by any means and he can't stop a raikiri blitz other than susanoo.
All that is a bogus lie and I'll gladly debunk it if need be.
No Kakashi short of War Arc can beat Itachi.
War-arc kakashi stomps Itatchi, not even remotely debatable unless you give him edo feats which really arent that impressive.
Will gladly prove this one also.
In that tier list "Mid Tier" was sorta like "Average Kage Tier", which I can see Old Hiruzen in but also in High debatably.
Meh i'd keep him there then, he tires relatively quickly after fighting on that level.
Also, where would you put Tsunade? You seem to think she's a high tier, but you haven't mentioned her in this thread yet.
Tsunade along with her trio are all high tier, Jiraiya possibly high-high tier tbh especially since like I said Itatchi (who doesn't belong there) is.
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