Avatar image for lightbright
#1 Posted by LightBright (4085 posts) - - Show Bio

Who would win if neither had their bows and arrows with them. They can use whatever could be found lying around in a usual home setting.
So basically who'd win hand to hand/improv style combat?

Avatar image for oldmagic
#2 Posted by oldmagic (5265 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Arrow.

Avatar image for ego
#3 Posted by Ego (2528 posts) - - Show Bio

hawkeye

Avatar image for the_502_kid
#4 Posted by The 502 Kid (3658 posts) - - Show Bio

Arrow has some toughness and meanness to him at times he should win here

Avatar image for iron_doom
#5 Posted by Iron Doom (1214 posts) - - Show Bio

hawkeye

Avatar image for the_man_of_yesteryear
#6 Edited by The Man of Yesteryear (5592 posts) - - Show Bio

Which Green Arrow, Ollie or Connor?

Hawkeye vs Green Arrow (Ollie) - Green Arrow wins in a close one.

Hawkeye vs Green Arrow (Connor) - Green Arrow. Curbstomp.

Avatar image for blade_hunter
#7 Posted by blade hunter (1917 posts) - - Show Bio

hawkeye

Avatar image for lightbright
#8 Posted by LightBright (4085 posts) - - Show Bio
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Which Green Arrow, Ollie or Connor?

Hawkeye vs Green Arrow (Ollie) - Green Arrow wins in a close one.

Hawkeye vs Green Arrow (Connor) - Green Arrow. Curbstomp."
Most likely. :)
Avatar image for spiderman45
#9 Posted by spiderman45 (152 posts) - - Show Bio

i say green arrow

Avatar image for the_martian
#10 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends what Hawkeye and what Green Arrow you are talking about. If you are talking about the originals though, Hawkeye right now is fighting along the Avengers without his Bow.

Avatar image for lightbright
#11 Posted by LightBright (4085 posts) - - Show Bio
Nobody said:
"Depends what Hawkeye and what Green Arrow you are talking about. If you are talking about the originals though, Hawkeye right now is fighting along the Avengers without his Bow."

I'm going with the originals. Clint Barton Vs. Oliver Queen.
Avatar image for the_martian
#12 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) - - Show Bio
LightBright said:
"Nobody said:
"Depends what Hawkeye and what Green Arrow you are talking about. If you are talking about the originals though, Hawkeye right now is fighting along the Avengers without his Bow."

I'm going with the originals. Clint Barton Vs. Oliver Queen."
Hawkeye then.
Avatar image for slinger
#13 Posted by Slinger (5779 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkeye's been running around as Ronin recently pretty much staying away from the bow completely. He was also the first one Tony went to when he was trying to replace Captain America, which speaks a lot to how truly badass Hawkeye is. I don't know much about Green Arrow, so I'm not gonna make a pick, but I thought people should consider those little factors.

Unless we're talking about the current Hawkeye (Kate Bishop), in which case Green Arrow wins in a curbstomp.

Avatar image for lightbright
#14 Posted by LightBright (4085 posts) - - Show Bio
Slinger said:
"Hawkeye's been running around as Ronin recently pretty much staying away from the bow completely. He was also the first one Tony went to when he was trying to replace Captain America, which speaks a lot to how truly badass Hawkeye is. I don't know much about Green Arrow, so I'm not gonna make a pick, but I thought people should consider those little factors.

Unless we're talking about the current Hawkeye (Kate Bishop), in which case Green Arrow wins in a curbstomp."
I don't know. Kate would probably be able to hold her own for a while. She'd put up a fight.
Avatar image for slinger
#15 Posted by Slinger (5779 posts) - - Show Bio
LightBright said:
"Slinger said:
"Hawkeye's been running around as Ronin recently pretty much staying away from the bow completely. He was also the first one Tony went to when he was trying to replace Captain America, which speaks a lot to how truly badass Hawkeye is. I don't know much about Green Arrow, so I'm not gonna make a pick, but I thought people should consider those little factors.

Unless we're talking about the current Hawkeye (Kate Bishop), in which case Green Arrow wins in a curbstomp."
I don't know. Kate would probably be able to hold her own for a while. She'd put up a fight."
I think Green Arrow would probably toy around with her until he found out she was a minor...
Avatar image for lightbright
#16 Posted by LightBright (4085 posts) - - Show Bio
Slinger said:
"LightBright said:
"Slinger said:
"Hawkeye's been running around as Ronin recently pretty much staying away from the bow completely. He was also the first one Tony went to when he was trying to replace Captain America, which speaks a lot to how truly badass Hawkeye is. I don't know much about Green Arrow, so I'm not gonna make a pick, but I thought people should consider those little factors.

Unless we're talking about the current Hawkeye (Kate Bishop), in which case Green Arrow wins in a curbstomp."
I don't know. Kate would probably be able to hold her own for a while. She'd put up a fight."
I think Green Arrow would probably toy around with her until he found out she was a minor..."
LOL :)
Avatar image for lunacyde
#17 Posted by Lunacyde (24221 posts) - - Show Bio

If Hawkeye is Clint he wins in H2H/improv no matter what Green Arrow it is.....Arrow is tough but Clint has shown he can completely decimate opponents without his bow.(As Ronin)

Moderator
Avatar image for the_man_of_yesteryear
#18 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5592 posts) - - Show Bio
Lunacyde said:
"If Hawkeye is Clint he wins in H2H/improv no matter what Green Arrow it is.....Arrow is tough but Clint has shown he can completely decimate opponents without his bow.(As Ronin)"
I think Connor could take him.

His H2H skills rival Batman's.
Avatar image for lunacyde
#19 Posted by Lunacyde (24221 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmm....is that so? I had never read that b4 Im gonna look it up....

Moderator
Avatar image for the_man_of_yesteryear
#20 Edited by The Man of Yesteryear (5592 posts) - - Show Bio

"Years of studying hand-to-hand fighting at the Ashram have honed Connor into an unparalleled opponent whose metagene enables him to have a phenomenal physical memory. Once he has witnessed a move, Connor can instantly adapt it to his own growing repertoire of martial art disciplines."

"Connor cemented his place in the hierarchy of martial artists when the clandestine Cult of the Monkey Fist initiated a worldwide contest of mortal combat. Fighting alongside Batman, Black Canary, Nightwing, and others, Connor bested the Silver Monkey proving himself to be one of the world's greatest living fighters, perhaps even better than the Dark Knight himself!"

Avatar image for the_man_of_yesteryear
#21 Edited by The Man of Yesteryear (5592 posts) - - Show Bio
I'm changing my previous statement...

"Which Green Arrow, Ollie or Connor?

Hawkeye (Ronin) vs Green Arrow (Ollie) - Hawkeye

Hawkeye (Ronin) vs Green Arrow (Connor) - Green Arrow
Avatar image for lunacyde
#22 Edited by Lunacyde (24221 posts) - - Show Bio

I donno it doesnt say anything about Connor being at Batman's level at any of the sites i have looked at....

It did say that Ollie somewhat recently after being seriously injured hired some of the best martial arts teachers in the world to train him but he is still not at the level of Black Canary

Moderator
Avatar image for lionheart
#23 Posted by lionheart (1208 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkeye

Avatar image for slinger
#24 Posted by Slinger (5779 posts) - - Show Bio
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"I'm changing my previous statement...

"Which Green Arrow, Ollie or Connor?

Hawkeye (Ronin) vs Green Arrow (Ollie) - Hawkeye

Hawkeye (Ronin) vs Green Arrow (Connor) - Green Arrow
"
much respect

So Conner is a metahuman? That gives him a pretty big advantage, I think he'd have a fairly easy go of it then.
Avatar image for lunacyde
#25 Posted by Lunacyde (24221 posts) - - Show Bio

hmmmm....i see....very interesting....goes to him then

Moderator
Avatar image for bestbuystaff
#26 Posted by BESTBUYSTAFF (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@The 502 Kid
okay and clint has S.H.I.E.L.D. training top that b*tch

Avatar image for Scarbearer
#27 Posted by Scarbearer (784 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Ollie has this  He's done enough intensive martial arts training over the years that he can hold his own with anyone outside of very top tier Martial Artists (like Batman, his son Conner and so forth).  I wouldn't say it's enough to clearly define him as a /better/ H2H fighter than Clint, but I haven't seen anything from Clint to suggest he's a superior fighter to Ollie, so I think they are pretty even in this regard. Where Ollie wins this fight is improvisation. That's the corner stone the Green Arrow character is built on.  Ollie's ability to make it up as he goes is the stuff of legend.  It'd be a great fight to be sure, but I think Ollie has just a little bit more heart and will to win than his Marvel counterpart does.

Avatar image for powerherc
#28 Posted by PowerHerc (86164 posts) - - Show Bio

I like GA better, but judging by the H2H skills Clint displayed as Ronin; I gotta go with Hawkeye to win.
Avatar image for bo88gdan
#29 Posted by Bo88gdan (5406 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkeye

Avatar image for supremehyperion
#30 Posted by SupremeHyperion (1811 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkeye, he would go all Ronin on Arrow

Avatar image for wavemotioncannon
#31 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (7444 posts) - - Show Bio

OP say originals. Clint pummels Ollie with H2H and improv weapons.

Avatar image for saren
#32 Posted by Saren (27534 posts) - - Show Bio

@PowerHerc said:

I like GA better, but judging by the H2H skills Clint displayed as Ronin; I gotta go with Hawkeye to win.
Avatar image for revamp
#33 Posted by ReVamp (23015 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah. Though GA did school Jason... lol.

Avatar image for venomoushatred1001
#34 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12452 posts) - - Show Bio

@PowerHerc said:

I like GA better, but judging by the H2H skills Clint displayed as Ronin; I gotta go with Hawkeye to win.
Avatar image for tdk_1997
#35 Posted by TDK_1997 (17210 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkeye was a pretty neat fighter while he was Ronin,so I'm going with him in this.

Avatar image for jayskee
#36 Posted by jayskee (3159 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkeye

Avatar image for sa5m
#37 Posted by sa5m (2381 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bo88gdan said:

Hawkeye

Avatar image for wallcrawler
#38 Posted by WALLCRAWLER (125 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkeye

Avatar image for wavemotioncannon
#39 Edited by WaveMotionCannon (7444 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkeye