God Emperor of Mankind (WH40k) vs Thor

The God Emperor of Mankind faces off against Marvel 616's Thor! The Emperor is in his prime and this is regular Thor, without the Odin/Thor Force. This fight takes place on a barren planet on the border of the Marvel and WH40k universe. Both combatants start 1,000 feet away from each other. This is a random encounter. Who wins?

VERSUS

From what I've heard, Thor gets his Blonde-A$$ handed to him.

GEOM lolstomps.

Would OF Thor make this any closer? Don't know much about this guy.

Are you you guys for real? the God emperor of mankind will slaughter Thor in a nanosecond.

@juiceboks: His blows can level planets, can destroy/suck out peoples souls, he can control time, FTL combat speed, he is a stupidly powerful telepath not like plantary level telepathy but Galactic level. A single word forced 100thousand Space Marines to their knees and even now he's dead his psionic power was so strong a pisonic storm he created is still raging on a solar system level hundreds of years after his death.

Thor loses due to MF. seriously 40k should be banded here it is not fun by any means to have them win all the time

Pretty impressive. Still, that's like..low skyfather level feats. I think OF Thor could take him based on what you listed.

But this is Thor without the Odin Force / Thor Force. And EGOM is immortal. Thor can't beat him, even if he is RKT version.

I know regular Thor can't beat him, I was trying to get a good idea of how powerful EGOM is.

GOEM

Maybe a good match for him would be starro, I've heard he's a galactic level telepath. Or maybe starro and big g

@lowlaville

just want to correct some thing the GOEM is NOT immortal in fact in his current state he is near death despite being powerful beyond belief he can still die

GEoM stomps.

His shields needed the power of 4 gods to be broken, his combat speed with scaling is FTL, he can punch someone alot larger that a human from mars to the earth in a sigle blow, his psyker powers Are easily planetary.

You'd need RKT to handle him.

current state, not in this case.

@lowlaville

I was showing that yes it is possible for the GE to die. unless you want to say that his current state of near death is non-cannon

You are not getting it. EGOM vested his powers to his son if I remember correctly. This was before his "death". Rest assured, he was immortal. Or at least, this much can be speculated as being true, since his son became immortal.

@lowlaville

can you find a scan or quote on that because I can't find it he can live for a long time but he was effectively "killed" by 40k cannon lore if he gets off the golden thorn he will die (or at the least his body will) thus he is NOT immortal.

that said this still goose to him in a stomp without Thor/Odin force Thor would get MF'ed right off the bat

@juiceboks: GEOM actually froze time once, and in a blink of a eye used his precognition to see possible outcomes over a couple 1000 years. Thats power that Odin cannot match lol.

He is correct, he is Immortal in the sense he cannot NATURALLY Die. The only way to kill him is with great power. Like the power all 4 Chaos Gods gave Horus.

Even then, it took 4 gods power embued in his son to deal that fatal blow to him. Although according to belief, since EGOM is the menifestation of the power of numerous Shamans that had the ability to reincarnate themselves, it is believed that EGOM will ressurect. The only thing stopping the process is apparantly the Golden Throne. As all Shamans, once dead, the soul will go to the Warp system where the soul will spend time until reincarnation. EGOM should not be an exception.

All of that is just belief though, as the matter of relieving the sould purely for the belief is the worst that could happen to mankind.

Odin would be a better fight.

ok 40k wins again with ease.

Moving on

when did all of this get confirmed?

@betatesthighlander1: In multiple books and stories for example:

Desperately the Emperor summons his power and lashes out. Lightning flicker between the combatants. The stench of ozone fills the air. The Emperor leaps forward, sword raised. Weapons clash as the battle is joined on every level: physical, spiritual, psychic.

Bolts of force flicker as mortal gods clash, balancing the fate of the galaxy on every blow. Runesword and lightning claw ring against each other with a sound like thunder. Energies potent enough to level planets are unleashed.

-White Dwarf 131

And during that fight he was holding back because he didn't want to kill his son. He was casually throwing out planetary leveling blows while holding back:

In the warp the Emperor hears the Chaos Powers howl as they feed their pawn more power. The Lord of Humanity stands alone against their massed might and knows that he is losing. Somehow he cannot bring his full force to bear on the Warmaster. Horus shows no such restraint.

-White Dwarf 131

Then when he finally realizes he has to kill Horus he one-shots him and the 4 Chaos gods turn tail and run:

He must strike one deadly blow. He will get no other chance.

He gathers every particle of his power, focuses it into a mighty bolt of pure force, more coherent than a laser, more destructive than an exploding sun. He aims it at Horus, a lance of power destined for the madman's heart. Horus senses the upsurge of energy and turns to face the Emperor, a look of horror on his face.

The Emperor lets fly. It strikes the Warmaster. Horus screams as destruction rains down on him, twisting and writhing in titanic agony. He strives frantically to counter the Emperor's deathblow but his struggles become ever more feeble as the lethal energies play over him.

Driven by all the force of his rage and pain and hatred the Emperor wills Horus's death. He senses the forces of Chaos retreat, disengaging themselves from their pawn. As they do so sanity returns to the Warmaster. The Emperor sees realisation of the atrocities he has commited flicker across Horus' face. Tears glisten there.

Horus is free but the Emperor knows he himself is dieing and that the Powers Of Chaos may once again posses the Warmaster and he will not be there to stop them. He cannot take that risk. Horus must die. Yet for a second, looking into his old friends face, he hesitates, unable to do the deed. Then he thinks of the slaughter that still goes on outside, may go on forever. Resolve hardens within him.

He forces all mercy and all compassion from his mind, empties it of all knowledge of friendship and comaraderie and love. His eyes lock with Horus and see understanding there. Then with full cold knowledge of what he is doing the Emperor destroys the Warmaster.

- White Dwarf 131

As for his TP here he is forcing 100thousand Marines to their knees with a single word:

“‘It’s…’ Xaphen stammered. ‘It’s the…’ ‘I know who it is,’ Argel Tal exhaled the words through clenched teeth. And that’s when the voice hit him, hit them all, in a wave of invisible force.

+KNEEL+ it whispered with the power of a hammer to the forehead. There was no resisting. Muscles acted instantly, no matter that many hearts fought not to obey. Argel Tal was one of them. This was not fealty, nor worship, nor service. This was slavery, and his instincts rebelled at the enforced devotion even as he obeyed it. One hundred thousand Word Bearers kneeled in the dust of the perfect city, rendered prone by Imperial Decree. A legion was on its knees.”

The first Heretic pg. 57-58

Here he is stopping time to talk to Horus:

All the Primarch's were weaker than the Emperor and Sanguinus was seen moving FTL and he was stomped by Horus the same Horus the Emperor one-shotted after he stopped holding back. i can post more feats but i'll have to dig them up.

@dondave: That fight hasn't happened in the Heresy Novels yet but we've seen the fight occur from different points of view in different places. The instance I posted was from White dwarf 131 but i'm pretty sure its been in the Space Marine codex's once or twice and even the Chaos Codex.

Thor loses here, could make a difference if he had The Odinforce

God Emperor is immortal. It says so in Vulkan Lives.

Also, depending on which fluff you use, GEOM is a low skyfather level at least or with other sources he is way beyond skyfathers, to the point of his corpse being on par with skyfathers. In the warp, he fights off 4 chaos gods 24/7, and tzeentch, not the most powerful chaos god, can create his own universes.

GEOM wtflolstomps anyone. Odinforce probably won't matter (unless you use weakest interpretation of GEOM outside the warp)

@leman_russ: There was no need to bump this mismatch thread

Isn't 616 Thor ridiculously powerful? FTL, destroys planets by punching them?

I'm familiar with 40K. There aren't many feats for the Emperor, just a lot of speculation.

@m0ntyb0y: To my knowledge, Thor has never destroyed planets except when he was amped.

He is not immortal.
He is actually paraplegic in a chair.

Thor Godstomps him. :o

@realitywarper: OP says he is in his prime thus he is not on the throne.

Vulkan Lives revealed that the Emperor is actually a perpetual, who are capable of returning to life from being reduced to blood stains via tremendously fast regeneration and their souls' inability to leave their body and pass onto the warp like normal. Vulkan got this trait from his dad. There are ways to keep a perpetual down for good but they all, as far as we know, involve the warp.

So Thor won't be able to cause him any lasting harm while any injury inflicted on Thor would just keep on accumulating.

@realitywarper:

@wut hes a heretic! burn him! XD

Yeah but the Primarch worship the Emperor like a real god so maybe this is not true.

There is nothing to indicate that this isn't the case. It would explain why the Emperor hasn't aged a day since the neolithic era.

From what I know, the God Emperor obliterates.

His body is dead and his soul we don't know.

His body was injured by Horus who happened to be the focal point for the dark gods at the time. We know that warp power channeled in a specific way is the only known way to overcome perpetual immortality, ergo the Emperor being a perpetual is totally plausible.

His soul/mind is more than alive as it is still helping the Imperium across the Galaxy.

@realitywarper: His body is in a state of near death. In order for a perpetual to heal back to full strength their physical form must die, it is then healed no matter what(Vulkan has come back from ashes after being disintegrated). The golden throne is preventing this from happening. The Emperor is Immortal in the truest sense. The Grey Knights have a small wooden box that only the Supreme Grand Master of the Grey Knights (currently Kaldor Draigo who is trapped in the warp atm) knows how to open, there is a small symbol that is only found elsewhere on the golden throne. It's called "The Terminus Decree" and is only to be used in humanity's darkest hour, it's said that it will either bring humanity to it's knee's or save it. Everyone I've talked to about it agrees that its an "off switch" for the golden throne. The reason the Inquisition and High Lords of Terra wouldn't want this to happen is because the Emperor wouldn't exactly like what the imperium has become and not only would they lose all their power but they would most likely be wiped out by the Emperor.

It makes sense to me.

Particularly when the Adeptus Mechanicus is controlled by a C'tan (The Void Dragon), it makes sense that The Emperor stay "prisoner" inside a machine stopping his resurection.

Thor is outclassed here beyond imagination.

You cannot defeat a Norse god. They are simply superior.

Huge mismatch in favour of the God Emperor. I'm curious as to why this hasn't been locked. This is the guy that, whilst in his throne with his mind, forced 100 thousand chaos space marines to kneel at the same time (none could resist), can cause people to be flung around and spontaneously bleed, mentally nearly killed ahriman, one of the strongest sorcerers, and can even stop time for everyone except for people he chooses. Thor can hit people really hard.

GEOM curbstomps.

The God emperor cubstomps Thor, but Odinson could make a difference with the Odin force or something.