Galactus vs The Spectre
" @MrDirector786: BCA Galactus eating the omniverse. Next, "You, once again over-exaggerating what was going on in the story. Next.
I like how you ignored my previous post..
Marvel writers across 3 separate Marvel titles (Avengers/FF/GOTG)
stating/depicting info about Marvel comic stories within Marvel comics
said that Galactus was indeed eating THAT UNIVERSE and EVERYTHING BEYOND
Galactus absorbing all reality is not out of character.
Galactus came to be by merging with the Infinity Being.
Galactus has been hailed by Eternity concerning his significance.
Galactus has been stated to contain a cosmos within him by several sources.
Galactus returned to his natural state once, it was that of a star with infinite energy.
Galactus is the hinge that holds the Omniverse together.
Galactus was able to feed on Hyperstorm's connection to the infinite source of Hyperspace.
Galactus (hungry) was being used by Annihilus to destroy both 616 & the Negative Zone,
which would've led to the collapse of all reality.
In one future, Galactus destroyed the Omniverse battling Ecce,
then Galactus re-created the Marvel Universe with the infinite energies within him.
Then we have the BCA arc,
in which Galactus's future self is allowed to present just how far big G's power can go.
Galactus taking out all reality is not pis imo,
it's just something we're not going to see since it's not in Galactus' interest to do so,
in fact, if anything, Galactus is known to defend Reality and protect cosmic consonance.
And plus the Spectre here doesn't have backing by the presence, so even a starving Galactus would stomp.
Galactus via the Ultimate Nullifier kills ANY Spectre.
@Lance Uppercut:
So you actually believe that a Spectre with ABSOLUTELY no backing can defeat a well-fed Galactus? lol.
Spectre has to cheat to be more powerful than Galactus, and still Galen can always nullify him with the UN, no matter how much backing he gets from the Presence.
" No. There is no fully powered Galactus. If you mean BCA Galactus, then he stomps any Spectre minus CoIE, assuming that Galactus doesn`t use the UN oh his ass. DoV Spectre would get his ass beat though. "THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BACKING PEOPLE!!! Spectre's power is Spectre's own. Not God's. God's may choose to limit it at times, but it's not tied into him.
*Sigh*
Day of vengence Spectre didn't have backing, thus was MUCH weaker than CoIE Spectre(the one that fought AM), because he had backing.
" *Sigh* Day of vengence Spectre didn't have backing, thus was MUCH weaker than CoIE Spectre(the one that fought AM), because he had backing. "It didn't have backing because there is no such thing. Spectre is not a hand puppet which has no power when the Presence doesn't want to play with it. It is a legitimately powerful entity.
COIE Spectre was powerful enough to engage the Anti-Monitor Because he had backup from magic of 8 universes. Day of Vengeance Spectre didn't. That's the only difference, power wise.
Exactly, he had backing by powerful mages in CoIE, while he didn't in DoV. Spectre has no backing here, so he gets curbstomped by even a starving Galactus.
" Exactly, he had backing by powerful mages in CoIE, while he didn't in DoV. Spectre has no backing here, so he gets curbstomped by even a starving Galactus. "Please, COIE Spectre would have stepped on Galactus like a bug. Normal Spectre would.... Do the same thing, pretty much.
"I like how you ignored my previous post..
Marvel writers across 3 separate Marvel titles (Avengers/FF/GOTG)
stating/depicting info about Marvel comic stories within Marvel comics
said that Galactus was indeed eating THAT UNIVERSE and EVERYTHING BEYOND
Galactus absorbing all reality is not out of character.
Galactus came to be by merging with the Infinity Being.
Galactus has been hailed by Eternity concerning his significance.
Galactus has been stated to contain a cosmos within him by several sources.
Galactus returned to his natural state once, it was that of a star with infinite energy.
Galactus is the hinge that holds the Omniverse together.
Galactus was able to feed on Hyperstorm's connection to the infinite source of Hyperspace.
Galactus (hungry) was being used by Annihilus to destroy both 616 & the Negative Zone,
which would've led to the collapse of all reality.
In one future, Galactus destroyed the Omniverse battling Ecce,
then Galactus re-created the Marvel Universe with the infinite energies within him.
Then we have the BCA arc,
in which Galactus's future self is allowed to present just how far big G's power can go.
Galactus taking out all reality is not pis imo,
it's just something we're not going to see since it's not in Galactus' interest to do so,
in fact, if anything, Galactus is known to defend Reality and protect cosmic consonance.
And plus the Spectre here doesn't have backing by the presence, so even a starving Galactus would stomp."
Wrong. They said he was eating the universe. they made no mention of the omniverse. That's you making sh!t up in order to bolster his rep. Should I go grab scans from the time Galactus got owned by a godblast from Thor, or maybe the time he was embarrassed by Aegis and Tenebrous?
If that were true, then there would only be a need for one Galactus. IF that were true, than the omniverse would have started unraveling when Abraxas started slaughtering them wholesale. Once again, an example of you blowing feats out of proportion.
The rest aren't even feats that put him on an omniversal or even multiversal level.
He doesn't need backing from the presence. It's Spectre's own power. The Presence limits him on occasion, but it's not like he needs the Presence to hold his hand in every fight. I get it. You probably think Galactus is on the LT's level or something silly like that. But the truth is that he wasn't eating the omniverse, the writers never stated that, and it's your massive delusion.
No.
BCA Galactus would eat CoIE Spectre and CoIE AM at the same time.
How would "normal" Spectre even make Galactus notice him? Oh yea, by getting his ass handed to him by an amped Cap Marvel?
" No. BCA Galactus would eat CoIE Spectre and CoIE AM at the same time. How would "normal" Spectre even make Galactus notice him? Oh yea, by getting his ass handed to him by an amped Cap Marvel? "Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I seriously just choked on my coffee after reading that gem. Keep it up. You have a future as a comedian my friend.
Power wise, Galactus would maybe lose, but the thing is, Spectre can't harm Galactus because the Presence has to allow it. And since Galactus only serves his needs to survive and to sustain the Abraxas i don't see how that would go against the presence's great plan.
" No. BCA Galactus would eat CoIE Spectre and CoIE AM at the same time. How would "normal" Spectre even make Galactus notice him? Oh yea, by getting his ass handed to him by an amped Cap Marvel? "You mean unlike Galactus who got nearly got killed by two planets smashing together? Spectre was capable of annihilating Shazam in his place of power. The fact that an amped Captain Marvel was capable of standing against him was a testament to just how much power they showed into him.
Galactus is well-fed here first of all.
Second, Shazam even in the rock of eternity is only elder-god level. Next
@Lance Uppercut:
Meh, you like to downplay marvel characters it seems. Galactus ultimately nullifies them both.
" @AtPhantom: Galactus is well-fed here first of all. Second, Shazam even in the rock of eternity is only elder-god level. "LOOOL Yeah, we like to downplay...
@Galactusischere said:
" @AtPhantom: Galactus is well-fed here first of all. "So was he when the planets kicked his butt.
No. He told Thanos that he had wasted precious energies dealing with him. The page right after he blasts Thanos down.
Galactus stomps DoV Spectre, and BCA Galactus beats CoIE Spectre. Or he could just take out the UN.
"No. He told Thanos that he had wasted precious energies dealing with him. The page right after he blasts Thanos down.He wasted energies on Thanos? If he can drop from well-fed to malnourished from a scuffle with Thanos, Why are we still talking about this?Galactus stomps DoV Spectre, and BCA Galactus beats CoIE Spectre. Or he could just take out the UN.
"
Also, I love how you defer to alternate versions and power ups for some reason, as if they matter...
Ever heard of PIS and CIS?
It was Galactus in the future. Nothing alternate, and 100% canon. It was mentioned in 3 different bios.
" @Lance Uppercut: What kind of coffee do you drink? Sorry for the random question. : ) "Espresso, no cream, no sugar.
" Ever heard of PIS and CIS? It was Galactus in the future. Nothing alternate, and 100% canon. It was mentioned in 3 different bios. "Yes, I have. Galactus wasting energies on Thanos falls under neither of those.
It doesn't matter what it was. Galactus was altered for it. He wasn't Galactus, he was a giant universe eating machine.
Not PIS and CIS? Then how come he wasn't drained when he had the fight of his life against FP Tyrant? How come he wasn't drained when he fought the In-Betweener? Yea, I thought so.
As for you're second point, Galactus was only altered to the point that his hunger was made insatiable. I'ver posted this here before, but.. Galactus came to be by merging with the Infinity Being. Galactus has been stated to contain a cosmos within him by several sources. Galactus returned to his natural state once, it was that of a star with infinite energy. Galactus is the hinge that holds the Omniverse together. Galactus was able to feed on Hyperstorm's connection to the infinite source of Hyperspace. Galactus (hungry) was being used by Annihilus to destroy both 616 & the Negative Zone, which would've led to the collapse of all reality. In one possible future, Galactus destroyed the Omniverse battling Ecce, then Galactus re-created the Marvel Universe with the infinite energies within him.
His hunger has always been infinite.
In conclusion, power of cosmos > hand of god
Learn up on what CIS and PIS means. CIS and PIS =/= Bad writing." Not PIS and CIS? Then how come he wasn't drained when he had the fight of his life against FP Tyrant? How come he wasn't drained when he fought the In-Betweener? Yea, I thought so. "
@Galactusischere said:
Part of this is plain wiki text and the other part is just laughable. Start differentiating between omniverse and 616. I guess all those other Galacti which died in alternate realities are the first sign of Armageddon, right? One advice: If someone says "EVERYTHING" chances are he's not talking about anything wider than his own universe. Unless you can prove what you've said here, we're done talking." As for you're second point, Galactus was only altered to the point that his hunger was made insatiable. I'ver posted this here before, but.. Galactus came to be by merging with the Infinity Being. Galactus has been stated to contain a cosmos within him by several sources. Galactus returned to his natural state once, it was that of a star with infinite energy. Galactus is the hinge that holds the Omniverse together. Galactus was able to feed on Hyperstorm's connection to the infinite source of Hyperspace. Galactus (hungry) was being used by Annihilus to destroy both 616 & the Negative Zone, which would've led to the collapse of all reality. In one possible future, Galactus destroyed the Omniverse battling Ecce, then Galactus re-created the Marvel Universe with the infinite energies within him. His hunger has always been infinite. In conclusion, power of cosmos > hand of god "
It's not wiki text I can assure you. In the BCA it was literally stated that eventually the ENTIRE UNIVERSE would not be enough for Galactus' hunger and he would EAT THAT UNIVERSE and EVERYTHING BEYOND. In the Abraxas saga it was shown/told/stated that 616 Galactus >>>> all other Galactuses, as Galactus told Abraxas that he was the first one to emerge. It was also said that Galactus of the PRIME reality had to die in order for Abraxas to be released.
And according to some people, Galactus = Eternity right?
"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL this -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,
the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,
I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the UniverseS"
Except that I have undisputable proof that what you say isn't true.
BTW that is Eternity PRIME, Galactus prime's brother.
" @AtPhantom: Second, Shazam even in the rock of eternity is only elder-god level. "Well it had it's up and down moments, however Shazam did use a lot of his energy against Mordru seconds before his battle and final dimes at the hands of Spectre. Just saying. I still vote Spectre.
"Sigh.This has nothing to do with what I said. It can be the remains of Chuck freaking Norris for all I care, it is a universal object and has more power than Eternity.The IG is the remains of the Infinity Being who happened to create the Living Tribunal."
"TOAA created the Living Tribunal.
Sigh.The IG is the remains of the Infinity Being who happened to create the Living Tribunal.
"
I want to know how a Spectre with absolutely NO backing defeats Galactus. Spectre was present when a race of advanced aliens attacked earth, and he wasn't even a major player in that story as he didn't do anything major. A starving Galactus on the other hand eats entire planets with aliens FAR more advanced than earth on a weekly basis.
" I want to know how a Spectre with absolutely NO backing defeats Galactus. Spectre was present when a race of advanced aliens attacked earth, and he wasn't even a major player in that story as he didn't do anything major. A starving Galactus on the other hand eats entire planets with aliens FAR more advanced than earth on a weekly basis. "I thought we had this backing thing cleared up?
@AtPhantom:
Magus was going to merge two realities together with an incomplete IG. Owned the Ultimate Nullifier's energies, etc.
@Lance Uppercut:
no
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I told you, what I state is fact. No bull shit.
If the ultimate Nullifyer is Galactus' weakness then Spectre wills it to be in front of him and beats him.
^ Galactus has complete control over the UN.
@AtPhantom:
Sorry, didn't know that swearing wasn't allowed.
Nope.
Spectre has have been completely useless at times, and at other times he has gone toe-to-toe with universal/multi-versal beings.
"None of the scans you posted had anything to do with an infinity being creating the LT.@AtPhantom:
"
Magus was going to merge two realities together with an incomplete IG. Owned the Ultimate Nullifier's energies, etc.
@Lance Uppercut:
no
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I told you, what I state is fact. No bull shit.
It was the second cosmic in the universe, and then it created the other cosmics, such as Eternity, Death, Oblivion, etc.
The being that created the IG, while powerful, is not as powerful as the LT, nor is it as powerful as TOAA. Thus, the Heart of the Universe, an object with power granted by TOAA. It's the only object in the MU able to harm the LT. Because TOAA is the only being greater.
Galactus stomps.
And I had no idea that the Nemesis created the LT, but you can see his face in the scan Galactusishere posted. The last one.
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