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- Team members are those pictured above
- Magneto starts fight with a shield around his team
- In character, battle on Earth, starting 20m apart
- Win by KO or death
Who wins?
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Who wins?
This makes me think, can Magneto lift Thor's hammer? It'd be amusing to see Magneto using the hammer. Haha.
This makes me think, can Magneto lift Thor's hammer?
Probably not.
This makes me think, can Magneto lift Thor's hammer?
Probably not.
He's done it in the comics on many occasions. Yes, I know this isn't the comics, but the powersets and the hammer is the same.
Magneto is the main threat as he could drop a stadium on most of the Avengers or just rip the iron out of them.
Assuming there're enough metal, could go either way as long as Thor and Hulk don't one-shot Magneto right off the bat.
This makes me think, can Magneto lift Thor's hammer?
Probably not.
He's done it in the comics on many occasions. Yes, I know this isn't the comics, but the powersets and the hammer is the same.
If this is the case, Team 1.
This makes me think, can Magneto lift Thor's hammer?
Probably not.
He's done it in the comics on many occasions. Yes, I know this isn't the comics, but the powersets and the hammer is the same.
Scans? I know Magneto has deflected the hammer while it was flying through the air, and I think he lifted it in the Ultimates universe, but when has he lifted it in the 616 universe?
Assuming there're enough metal
Since the setting is on Earth, you can assume that there is some metal around for him to work with, yes.
This makes me think, can Magneto lift Thor's hammer?
Probably not.
He's done it in the comics on many occasions. Yes, I know this isn't the comics, but the powersets and the hammer is the same.
Scans? I know Magneto has deflected the hammer while it was flying through the air, and I think he lifted it in the Ultimates universe, but when has he lifted it in the 616 universe?
Oh, are you talking about lifting it with his hands? I was talking about using his powers to control the hammer.
The third one I'm not positive where it is from, it could be in the Ultimate universe, but the others are 616.
This makes me think, can Magneto lift Thor's hammer?
Probably not.
He's done it in the comics on many occasions. Yes, I know this isn't the comics, but the powersets and the hammer is the same.
Scans? I know Magneto has deflected the hammer while it was flying through the air, and I think he lifted it in the Ultimates universe, but when has he lifted it in the 616 universe?
Oh, are you talking about lifting it with his hands? I was talking about using his powers to control the hammer.
The third one I'm not positive where it is from, it could be in the Ultimate universe, but the others are 616.
He said lift it, so that's what I was talking about. I know he can control it once it's moving. And yes the last one is Ultimates where he was able to lift and hold it.
This makes me think, can Magneto lift Thor's hammer?
Probably not.
He's done it in the comics on many occasions. Yes, I know this isn't the comics, but the powersets and the hammer is the same.
Scans? I know Magneto has deflected the hammer while it was flying through the air, and I think he lifted it in the Ultimates universe, but when has he lifted it in the 616 universe?
Oh, are you talking about lifting it with his hands? I was talking about using his powers to control the hammer.
The third one I'm not positive where it is from, it could be in the Ultimate universe, but the others are 616.
He said lift it, so that's what I was talking about. I know he can control it once it's moving. And yes the last one is Ultimates where he was able to lift and hold it.
I don't really see much difference. I mean, lifting it with his hands and lifting it with his powers...doesn't really matter, he can use it just fine either way.
This makes me think, can Magneto lift Thor's hammer?
Probably not.
He's done it in the comics on many occasions. Yes, I know this isn't the comics, but the powersets and the hammer is the same.
Scans? I know Magneto has deflected the hammer while it was flying through the air, and I think he lifted it in the Ultimates universe, but when has he lifted it in the 616 universe?
Oh, are you talking about lifting it with his hands? I was talking about using his powers to control the hammer.
The third one I'm not positive where it is from, it could be in the Ultimate universe, but the others are 616.
He said lift it, so that's what I was talking about. I know he can control it once it's moving. And yes the last one is Ultimates where he was able to lift and hold it.
I don't really see much difference. I mean, lifting it with his hands and lifting it with his powers...doesn't really matter, he can use it just fine either way.
Well, if Thor is holding it then it makes a big difference. Deflecting it while it's flying and moving it when Thor is actually hands-on and activating the enchantment are very different, so you cant assume that doing one allows him to do the other.
This makes me think, can Magneto lift Thor's hammer?
Probably not.
He's done it in the comics on many occasions. Yes, I know this isn't the comics, but the powersets and the hammer is the same.
Scans? I know Magneto has deflected the hammer while it was flying through the air, and I think he lifted it in the Ultimates universe, but when has he lifted it in the 616 universe?
Oh, are you talking about lifting it with his hands? I was talking about using his powers to control the hammer.
The third one I'm not positive where it is from, it could be in the Ultimate universe, but the others are 616.
He said lift it, so that's what I was talking about. I know he can control it once it's moving. And yes the last one is Ultimates where he was able to lift and hold it.
I don't really see much difference. I mean, lifting it with his hands and lifting it with his powers...doesn't really matter, he can use it just fine either way.
Well, if Thor is holding it then it makes a big difference. Deflecting it while it's flying and moving it when Thor is actually hands-on and activating the enchantment are very different, so you cant assume that doing one allows him to do the other.
He didn't just deflect it while it was flying, he was able to control it himself with his powers, make it go where he wanted. And Thor is, of course, going to throw his hammer. He always does.
This makes me think, can Magneto lift Thor's hammer?
Probably not.
He's done it in the comics on many occasions. Yes, I know this isn't the comics, but the powersets and the hammer is the same.
Scans? I know Magneto has deflected the hammer while it was flying through the air, and I think he lifted it in the Ultimates universe, but when has he lifted it in the 616 universe?
Oh, are you talking about lifting it with his hands? I was talking about using his powers to control the hammer.
The third one I'm not positive where it is from, it could be in the Ultimate universe, but the others are 616.
He said lift it, so that's what I was talking about. I know he can control it once it's moving. And yes the last one is Ultimates where he was able to lift and hold it.
I don't really see much difference. I mean, lifting it with his hands and lifting it with his powers...doesn't really matter, he can use it just fine either way.
Well, if Thor is holding it then it makes a big difference. Deflecting it while it's flying and moving it when Thor is actually hands-on and activating the enchantment are very different, so you cant assume that doing one allows him to do the other.
He didn't just deflect it while it was flying, he was able to control it himself with his powers, make it go where he wanted. And Thor is, of course, going to throw his hammer. He always does.
I'm saying that if Thor is actually holding it, he probably wont be able to control it.
This makes me think, can Magneto lift Thor's hammer?
Probably not.
He's done it in the comics on many occasions. Yes, I know this isn't the comics, but the powersets and the hammer is the same.
Scans? I know Magneto has deflected the hammer while it was flying through the air, and I think he lifted it in the Ultimates universe, but when has he lifted it in the 616 universe?
Oh, are you talking about lifting it with his hands? I was talking about using his powers to control the hammer.
The third one I'm not positive where it is from, it could be in the Ultimate universe, but the others are 616.
He said lift it, so that's what I was talking about. I know he can control it once it's moving. And yes the last one is Ultimates where he was able to lift and hold it.
I don't really see much difference. I mean, lifting it with his hands and lifting it with his powers...doesn't really matter, he can use it just fine either way.
Well, if Thor is holding it then it makes a big difference. Deflecting it while it's flying and moving it when Thor is actually hands-on and activating the enchantment are very different, so you cant assume that doing one allows him to do the other.
He didn't just deflect it while it was flying, he was able to control it himself with his powers, make it go where he wanted. And Thor is, of course, going to throw his hammer. He always does.
I'm saying that if Thor is actually holding it, he probably wont be able to control it.
I think that might depend on if Thor is expecting it or not. I'm sure he has never had someone else try to control his hammer, at least in the movies.
This makes me think, can Magneto lift Thor's hammer?
Probably not.
He's done it in the comics on many occasions. Yes, I know this isn't the comics, but the powersets and the hammer is the same.
Scans? I know Magneto has deflected the hammer while it was flying through the air, and I think he lifted it in the Ultimates universe, but when has he lifted it in the 616 universe?
Oh, are you talking about lifting it with his hands? I was talking about using his powers to control the hammer.
The third one I'm not positive where it is from, it could be in the Ultimate universe, but the others are 616.
He said lift it, so that's what I was talking about. I know he can control it once it's moving. And yes the last one is Ultimates where he was able to lift and hold it.
I don't really see much difference. I mean, lifting it with his hands and lifting it with his powers...doesn't really matter, he can use it just fine either way.
Well, if Thor is holding it then it makes a big difference. Deflecting it while it's flying and moving it when Thor is actually hands-on and activating the enchantment are very different, so you cant assume that doing one allows him to do the other.
He didn't just deflect it while it was flying, he was able to control it himself with his powers, make it go where he wanted. And Thor is, of course, going to throw his hammer. He always does.
I'm saying that if Thor is actually holding it, he probably wont be able to control it.
I think that might depend on if Thor is expecting it or not. I'm sure he has never had someone else try to control his hammer, at least in the movies.
I guess it's possible. Although if Magneto can control it, Thor can also just will the hammer to fly back to him, or simply will it to resist the control and stay in his hand. It would depend on how powerful the hammer's flight power is compared to Magneto's power. Since the hammer is magical (or tech that's similar to magic... same thing) I'd put my money on Thor being able to control it over Magneto.
@willpayton said:
This makes me think, can Magneto lift Thor's hammer?
Probably not.
He's done it in the comics on many occasions. Yes, I know this isn't the comics, but the powersets and the hammer is the same.
Scans? I know Magneto has deflected the hammer while it was flying through the air, and I think he lifted it in the Ultimates universe, but when has he lifted it in the 616 universe?
Oh, are you talking about lifting it with his hands? I was talking about using his powers to control the hammer.
The third one I'm not positive where it is from, it could be in the Ultimate universe, but the others are 616.
He said lift it, so that's what I was talking about. I know he can control it once it's moving. And yes the last one is Ultimates where he was able to lift and hold it.
I don't really see much difference. I mean, lifting it with his hands and lifting it with his powers...doesn't really matter, he can use it just fine either way.
Well, if Thor is holding it then it makes a big difference. Deflecting it while it's flying and moving it when Thor is actually hands-on and activating the enchantment are very different, so you cant assume that doing one allows him to do the other.
He didn't just deflect it while it was flying, he was able to control it himself with his powers, make it go where he wanted. And Thor is, of course, going to throw his hammer. He always does.
I'm saying that if Thor is actually holding it, he probably wont be able to control it.
I think that might depend on if Thor is expecting it or not. I'm sure he has never had someone else try to control his hammer, at least in the movies.
I guess it's possible. Although if Magneto can control it, Thor can also just will the hammer to fly back to him, or simply will it to resist the control and stay in his hand. It would depend on how powerful the hammer's flight power is compared to Magneto's power. Since the hammer is magical (or tech that's similar to magic... same thing) I'd put my money on Thor being able to control it over Magneto.
There is a difference between lifting it and wielding it.
Magneto can lift it through his metal controlling powers, but he cannot wield it (use it's power) because he is not worthy.
Magneto is the only factor and I'm not sure that he could survive a shot from either Thor or Hulk. His only hope would be that he could take them all out before someone hit him.
The Avengers would win actually. Wanda could just crush or rip Magneto apart like she was doing with Utron robots or do what she did to vision. Once Magneto is out the other ones fall with ease.
Magneto drops a shield helicarrier on each one of them.
this for days
This is basically OP-Magneto vs Scarlet Witch, Thor, and Hulk...
Erik makes a serious case for this fight though. He can manipulate the metals deep within the Earth's mantle to literally move continents. I don't know what that kind of damage could even look like set on an individual person. Unfortunately there was not enough screen time to showcase this, so just purely based on feats and not based on power set, I'll take the Avengers.
Magneto is going to be a problem for this team , as in previous issues Magneto has lifted thors hammer . This is a fight between Magneto Vs Scarlet Wich & Hulk. He wielded it in Ultimatum Vol 1 #5 and in Ultimates 3 Vol 1 #5. and in other issues.
-Ley
@thevoidofdeath: We're using movie versions not comic ones.
Ah, then I believe Magneto still has a chance.. Thor is covered in metal , and Magneto's power is absolutely ridiculous . : Wanda is going to be killed by Magneto . I am going with magneto.
This is basically Magneto vs Avengers, or actually Magneto vs Thor and Hulk since rest get killed almost instantly.
This is basically Magneto vs Avengers, or actually Magneto vs Thor and Hulk since rest get killed almost instantly.
Agreed, and if Wanda can do anything, she has to do something really significant and right off the bat. Pretty insane how young X-Men took on all these members and Apocalypse.... (if I'm right)
Magneto's level of power is far above anyone of the MCU, they literally have no chance he'd scrap Iron Man and dismember them all with Cap's shield. He destroyed Sydney, destroyed structures in San Francisco, destroyed Auschwitz, was tearing out all of the elemental metals from the Earth's core, and would've destroyed every major city on Earth had he not been convinced by Mystique. The Avengers are out of their depth
Mags and Oro are the only real threats Angel and psylock get beat early on. Quicksilver was unable to penetrate mags shield but we don't know if Thor's hammer would be able to penetrate it or not. Or iron mans repulsor blasts or even hulk just smashing though it. So it all comes down to if they can break the shield if they do avengers win, if they can't then mags hides the whole battle.
Magneto's level of power is far above anyone of the MCU, they literally have no chance he'd scrap Iron Man and dismember them all with Cap's shield. He destroyed Sydney, destroyed structures in San Francisco, destroyed Auschwitz, was tearing out all of the elemental metals from the Earth's core, and would've destroyed every major city on Earth had he not been convinced by Mystique. The Avengers are out of their depth
And his answer for hulk and Thor? Dropping buildings on them won't kill them? So what will he do when they finally break his shield and bum rush his a$$?
@chris-sama: Lol Hulk was knocked down and had to take cover from Chitauri laserfire and lost a tooth from a punch from Iron man, Magneto was throwing tons of metal with enough power to vaporize it on Apocalypse's shield. He could KO either by hurling debris at them especially when their durability is nowhere near on par with the amount of damage he can deal. Please show me anything to suggest Hulk can survive metal being thrown with enough power to vaporize it. Thor was also hurt by being stabbed and almost died to a fall, Magneto would drive the metal right through his torso
Thor and Hulk beat mags, everyone else on both teams dies.
Banner can easily be BFR'd.
Thor's going to struggle keeping in control of his hammer (Vision showed that he could hold Thor's hammer) which will eventually lead to his defeat.
@georgewbush: lmao took cover from chitauri Fire??? Hulk sat there and took every shot lmao, this is the same hulk that went through a damn skyscraper and came out perfectly fine. Thor almost died???? He through that little knife out and body slammed Loki. You can throw buildings on them and they wouldn't die banner tried to commit suicide and hulk spit the bullet out there's nothing magneto can do to hulk. Even Thor he can deflect any metal thrown at him with his hammer. So he has no answer for those two.
@the_kidd: agreed they were extremely payhetic, avengers for the win
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