Dr. Manhattan (Watchmen 2009) vs. Apocalypse (X-Men Apocalypse 2016)

Dr. Manhattan

Vs.

Apocalypse

Rules:

Round 1 in character

Round 2 blood lust

Manhattan stomps. He can disintegrate Apocalipse in 1 second and apoc can't rebuild his body. If Manhattan let apoc destroy him, he can just rebuild his body and stomp apocalipse.

Dr Manhattan both rounds.

Doc Manhattan.

Manhattan

Apocalypse has better destructive feats. Even including Ozy's machine, it was still a simple explosion. Apocalypse was transforming cities casually.

@jedixman: a simple explosion that destroyed new York city.

Manhattan bfr

Manhattan

@heatforce:

Compared to warping Cairo into a giant pyramid? I'll take Apocalypse. Showed more control and precision.

Dr. Manhattan easily. Even if Apocalypse's destructive capacity, @jedixman, surpasses Dr. Manhattan's (which, IMO, it doesn't), Dr. Manhattan's regenerative capability isn't even regeneration in the classical sense so much as an effortless, nigh-instantaneous self-recreation, as opposed to Apocalypse's, which is a relatively slow and involved process. Apocalypse has no means to permanently defeat Dr. Manhattan, while Apocalypse seems to need to be conscious or at least have his mind intact to rebuild himself, in which case being atomized by Dr. Manhattan should render Apocalypse, well, dead.

Manhattan takes this rather easily.

@jedixman: fair enough, Just wanted to point out the overall power of the destruction.

@teefurtree:

That's assuming Manhattan can get through Apocalypse's shields, which were only broke by Phoenix. If we have a scenario where Manhattan is incapable of harming Apocalypse at all, while Manhattan gets destroyed over and over again, that's a win for Apocalypse.

@jedixman: True. However...

We don't quite know how powerful Jean is when channeling the Phoenix Force - she could have a telekinetic power output on a similar level to Dr. Manhattan's, she could be far more powerful. There doesn't seem to be any way to measure this, however. I'd like to think it's the former, but that's wishful thinking.

Being as Dr. Manhatten doesn't have telekinesis, he has control over pretty much the entire electromagnetic spectrum, what he actually does is command each individual sub-atomic particle within his conscious range. His conscious range being limited to what he feels is relevant at the time. What this means is his powers cannot be stopped by walls. as long as he has knowledge of an area, he should be able do whatever he wants with it. Granted we are playing with Movie Dr. Manhatten who is marginally less powerful than the original from the comics. Either way he should have no problem turning apocalypse into a collection of subatomic particles.

We know her telepathy is greater than Xavier's telepathy - and his power is impressive. Much greater, in fact. He was getting stomped by Apocalypse. Her TK is likely comparably impressive.

Mind you, this is the same Apocalypse who was tanking hits from Magneto's who was decimating cities across the world, and who disintegrated Auschwitz. They didn't make a dent. So the fact that this didn't even make Apocalypse flinch, but he was taken out by Phoenix, should show that the gap between Magneto and Phoenix is meant to be wide.

manhatten stomp

Manhattan instantly BFRs Apoc to Mars... Or the sun... Or the other side of the electrified fence.

If not, Apoc becomes a splatter.

Apocalypse can transport himself. BFRing somebody doesn't really work if they can just teleport themselves back.

@jedixman: As far as I can remember Apoc's teleportation was not as fast as Manhattan's. While Manhattan's teleportation was pretty fast.

And while I agree that Apoc's manipulatiom of Cairo was impressive, Manhattan also showed some impressive feats, like creating atmosphere on Mars, his big clock thingy in Mars and of course the city busting blasts used by Ozy.

Besides as it was already pointed out, Manhattan has more impressive feats of reforming himself after his body was entirely obliterated.

He made a pocket of atmosphere. He didn't make the entire planet breathable; when he did it, it was just a bubble around the two of them.

The clock thing is his most impressive manipulation feat, but it's not as good as Cairo. Similar level of intricacy, but Apocalypse's creation appeared larger.

The explosions Ozy caused were separate warheads. There's no reason to believe Manhattan, himself, would be capable of that many simultaneous explosions. He's probably capable of at least one of them. But Manhattan

And as I previously stated: if Manhattan is unable to get past Apocalypse's shields, while he keeps getting blown up and reforming, that's essentially a win for Apocalypse.

@jedixman:

You know that one feat? That really, really special feat?

Yeah.

Doctor Manhattan stomps.

Damn, I forgot about the tank...

@jedixman:

@jedixman: Did Apoc blow up anyone in the movie?

What I remember Apoc doing to people to insta-kill them, was merging them with soil/walls and other stuff... And in order to do that, well, the target needs to be mostly... Physical. Which Manhattan isn't, at least not entirely.

I do understand that Manhattan's biggest problem in battles is his lack of feats against other super-powered beings, but his feats are pretty solid. Personally and please, take it with a grain of salt, or whatever, because it is MY OPINION, Manhattan was overall more impressive than Apoc in the general use of his powers. The problem is that he was never fully tested. And I do understand that it could be taken as lack of feats.

manhattan is intangible and if you hit him, he regens

Dr. Manhattan is a disembodied intellect capable of manipulating quantum fields. Nothing Apocalypse could do could stop him, and Manhattan can manipulate reality at a level baser than Apocalypse can even perceive.

People on this forum often argue about Manhattan, and reality warpers in general, incorrectly. It's not about "power level". Manhattan has shown he can disintegrate a man, a feat strong enough to kill Apocalypse. It's about how he does it. To defeat Dr. Manhattan you need to be able to manipulate reality at a level baser than quantum fields, like attacking causality or some sort of fictional baser level than quantum fields, like "cosmic power", or attack his mind. Manhattan's mind is disembodied, but his attention and reasoning, while superhuman, are still limited.

Both rounds end in Apocalypse being disintegrated with a gesture.