Dr. Light VS Dr. Doom

I'm only doing this because every time I see that thread, Light vs. Dr. Doom, this fight comes to mind so I wanted to give it a thread.

Dr. Doom has come New York to show off some amazing invention (not to be used in the fight) that will finally show everyone that he's better than Reed only to find Richards and the rest of the F4 in the middle of the street, dead at the feet of Dr. Light. They lock eyes and Doom flies into a rage because he feels that Light has taken away his victory. He decides that if he can't show up Reed, he'll have to settle for the man who killed him. Light immediately realizes that Dr. Doom is going to try to attack him and he's ready for another fight. Who wins?

Oh geez... I'll get back to this, need to read up on Light.

I don't know, It seems that Doom's suit is prepared to deal with Light trying to blind him, create illusions, becoming invisible or turning the place pitch black. How would they match up in terms of pure power? What about tactical expertise? Dr. Light can take control over anything that emits light, would that include Doom's magic? I may have to sit this one out.

At least you're giving it a thought. You're right, Doom would probably be fine against trickery with light. Don't know how they match up in power, if Light could damage Doom (I'd have to look at how much damage he does to the characters he fights and I'm not doing that now) or if Doom could hurt light (though I don't think he could because any kind of blast would be energy based). Tactical ability would go to Doom. Light's intelligence is more science based than battle focused. Yes, it would include Doom's magic. The taking over of Doom's stuff (magic, attacks, suit) was where I thought the fight might end up going.

I think I'm leaning toward Light for now, I just don't see how Doom could get past Light's defenses when his most powerful attacks emit light. Maybe a rocket of some sort or calling in support from somewhere else (if it's allowed). It won't take long for Doom to realize that his light-emitting attacks are being used against him but that still won't stop Light from forcing those attacks against him like he did with the heat vision thing. I mean, if Light's powerful enough to take over something like heat vision then he should fair well against Doom. I'll be back to see if anyone else has something to add.

Doom's armour does include defensive options and weapon systems that do not contain light based elements.
One off the top of my head is that his gauntlets contain a resevoire of micrscopic particles, that on contact with the air, expand in size to the size of small boulders. He has sprayed these out through the air against Iron Man before. Very difficult to avoid and very damaging.
There is also the fact that Doom can transfer his mind in to another's body, through eye contact (curtesy of the Ovoid race - not sure if I spelt that right). He could simply lock down his armour, initiate the transfer. In Light's body, he could then subdue Light in his body (my that's confusing) and take his body back when the situation was secured.
Doom's magic abilities could prove to be the deciding factor though.

Doom for the win because he can plan his way out of most predictaments by working with what he has on him.

doctor light takes it

"Doom's armour does include defensive options and weapon systems that do not contain light based elements.
One off the top of my head is that his gauntlets contain a resevoire of micrscopic particles, that on contact with the air, expand in size to the size of small boulders. He has sprayed these out through the air against Iron Man before. Very difficult to avoid and very damaging.
There is also the fact that Doom can transfer his mind in to another's body, through eye contact (curtesy of the Ovoid race - not sure if I spelt that right). He could simply lock down his armour, initiate the transfer. In Light's body, he could then subdue Light in hios body (my that's confucing) and take his body back when the situation was secured.
Doom's magic abilities could prove to be the deciding factor though.

Doom for the win because he can plan his way out of most predictaments by working with what he has on him.
"

Very nice.  I think Light could withstand the particles though I do recall that Doom does have several other non energy-based weapons.  I would have to look them up to see if any of the others could prove successful.

The mind swap on the other hand is very convincing.  A little used option for Doom but it certainly should work.  I might have more to say later.

@Bucklshot - Excellent choice.  Doom has a vast array of attack options and Light is a little used and little understood character who is exceptionally powerful.

Completely forgot about the mind transfer. I'd imagine it would be Doom's last resort but it should work.

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Dr.Doom with ease. Unlike Dr.Light he can pretty much plan out most of this battle. Dr.Light has to knock his enemies and use those special tricks. Doom can simply use a device in he area. Although Doom can use his attacks they'd be to bright although he still wins.

dr.doom

"Doom's armour does include defensive options and weapon systems that do not contain light based elements.
One off the top of my head is that his gauntlets contain a resevoire of micrscopic particles, that on contact with the air, expand in size to the size of small boulders. He has sprayed these out through the air against Iron Man before. Very difficult to avoid and very damaging.
There is also the fact that Doom can transfer his mind in to another's body, through eye contact (curtesy of the Ovoid race - not sure if I spelt that right). He could simply lock down his armour, initiate the transfer. In Light's body, he could then subdue Light in his body (my that's confusing) and take his body back when the situation was secured.
Doom's magic abilities could prove to be the deciding factor though.

Doom for the win because he can plan his way out of most predictaments by working with what he has on him.
"

I am not sure that I agree withy this as if the energy is sitting in Dooms armour untapped, it is not giving of light.

Yes Light could do these things but he is unliely to. He normally gets hit with energy attacks and the like so he may not be expecting a mental attack. This means of attack that Doom can perform is not commonly known so Doom, being a betterc tactitian would use it when Light begins to gloat (if he gets the upper hand and Light has been shown to be a gloater). 

Well the open eneded nature of magic means that I am sure Doom could find a darkness spell or mental attack spell or a tranporation spell to another dimension.

First of all, if Dr. Light has Doom's rage on his side i don't see how doom could lose, Doom has only shown his potential against Silver Surfer, Reed Richards and the likes, now if Light gets him pissed what exactly do you think doom will do? He'll use magic, because he has none of his gadgets at hand. Doom is not only the 2nd most powerful sorcerer that walks the face of 616 but now also nows a vast arange of arcane magic through time traveling to morgana le fey.

He wins.

Doom is not the 2nd most powerful sorcerer on earth.

That whole contest they had to see who the runner up for sorcerer supreme was bs on account of them not inviting all the guys who are clearly better socerers than Doom, such as Baron Mordo.

uhm... i dont know what your smoking, but send me a sample of it please :D

Yeah, I'm probably just crazy and have no idea what I'm talking about.  That or I'm a Baron Mordo fanboy, since I talk about him so often.

Or maybe just maybe the guy with the handle "Dr. Victor von Doom" is a Dr. Doom fanboy.

Oh and by the way, Dr. Light for the win.  Superboy could take the Fantastic Four on his own and Light punked him no problem.

Edit: And I've seen Doom cower before Storm, another hero who wouldn't have a prayer against Light.

Hmm last i checked that was when Doom fought against Black Panther and was wooping his ass and then storm came along and caught doom off guard

and btw

here from the official handbook of the marvel universe

"He is also quite skilled in magic, it is stated that he is next in line for Sorcerer Supreme." which means he is number 2 and he recently got another power boost through visiting Morgan le fey via TRAVELING THROUGH TIME which also one of his magic gifts.

He also lost to Storm way back in the day when he faced the X-Men.  She didn't surprise him or anything, she just whipped his butt.

And you're right.  He is next in line for Sorcerer Supreme....because they had a contest and he beat everybody else.  But they didn't invite all the really powerful mages like Baron Mordo to said contest so it doesn't mean anything.

Doom and Dr Strange are the most powerful magicians read some Strange tales where they team up and its said

No The most powerful mages aren't earth mages. Like Umar, Dormmamu, Zom. Everything not from earth is always stronger. Heroes would be a perfect example.

Doom FTW

"No The most powerful mages aren't earth mages. Like Umar, Dormmamu, Zom. Everything not from earth is always stronger. Heroes would be a perfect example."

"zee crusher said:

"No The most powerful mages aren't earth mages. Like Umar, Dormmamu, Zom. Everything not from earth is always stronger. Heroes would be a perfect example."

I am aware of that just saying on earth
"

uh uh uh look at the issue where doom takes Ironman to a time travel he strips his suit of its powers and drives sentry mental

I think he has done it twice. The main time I recall it's use is when his body was about to be destroyed and he swapped minds. All it took was a glance and it was done.

I cannot recall the name of the spell but it related to the creeping darkness or the like and opponents literally get sucked in to a realm of shadows.
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"First of all, if Dr. Light has Doom's rage on his side i don't see how doom could lose, Doom has only shown his potential against Silver Surfer, Reed Richards and the likes, now if Light gets him pissed what exactly do you think doom will do? He'll use magic, because he has none of his gadgets at hand. Doom is not only the 2nd most powerful sorcerer that walks the face of 616 but now also nows a vast arange of arcane magic through time traveling to morgana le fey.

He wins.
"

Not to mention there is no reason Doom would know about Light's ability to manipulate a good portion of his attacks.

and the other way around a.E. Doom switching bodies on eye contact

doom is not the second best with magic there are many others better then him. And if your saying he is the best with magic  on earth that means nothing when there are tons of others way better with majic then him that arent from earth so hes really not the second best at majic now is he

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What do you mean he doesn't have his gadgets? Doom's armor is full of stuff at all times. Doom could use magic, but the reason he uses it won't be because he has no gadgets. As for the 2nd most powerful sorcerer comment, that's not really the case. Zoom has covered that though. On your later post, he didn't get a power boost when he recently visited Morgana, pretty sure she just taught him a spell (how to summon an army). And he doesn't travel through time with his magic, he uses technology for that. Doom has magic and that's great, but I think Light could kill Doom with his own energy before Doom figured out what to attack him with. Light has the advantage of not really having to change his tactics in this fight while Doom has to forgo his more common attacks so they're not used against him. Aside from the Ovoid mind switch, spells are the best move and those aren't known for being the fastest method of attack, not like a beam of light.
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"doom is not the second best with magic there are many others better then him. And if your saying he is the best with magic  on earth that means nothing when there are tons of others way better with majic then him that arent from earth so hes really not the second best at majic now is he"

show me where you got that. Cause there is a huge list of other people who could do alot more majic then him

"show me where you got that. Cause there is a huge list of other people who could do alot more majic then him"

"Paraphernalia
Doom wears a sophisticated nuclear-powered titanium battlesuit which grants him superhuman strength, contains jets for flight, houses a personal force field, and discharges concussive force blasts; he can also electrify his armor's surface. The armor contains a 4-hour air supply, and can be sealed for travel into outer space or underwater. Special attachments to the armor have included a molecular-expander, which can cause molecules to expand into the size of boulders, and various devices for absorbing the energies of others (such as the Silver Surfer)."

i didnt even know that stuff was part of his armor! i could use that in some battles

could you two argue about something that actually matters?

Im not arguing

lol i'm just teasing vic!  you can argue about whatever you want

okay

goes back to argue with buckshot and trauma

"Trauma said:

"doom is not the second best with magic there are many others better then him. And if your saying he is the best with magic  on earth that means nothing when there are tons of others way better with majic then him that arent from earth so hes really not the second best at majic now is he"

He is second to Sorcerer Supreme
"

... well ... uh... what is it then?

im just sayin doctor light takes this

im not sayin it wouldnt be a great battle but, light takes it

 And he doesn't travel through time with his magic, he uses technology for that. 

"Buckshot said:

 And he doesn't travel through time with his magic, he uses technology for that. 

How do you think he got back? the 1500reds time machine?
"

Doom traveling back in time without any gadgets (possibly his armor but he has it in this fight too so i dont see why he couldnt do it anyways)



Doom absorbing Ironmans suit's powers



Doom taking two fullblown hits by the earths mightiest hero (alias) the sentry and severely owning him with his magic (he would of killed him if tony wouldnt have gotten in the way)








Ps: Sorry for the full page scans but i'M trying to prove what i stated

lol ok vic, you know its some sort of computer cause its saying that the timeslip is engaged.  if it was magic, that wouldnt have been in there.

but now youre assuming it was his suit when it could have been the ai from his base informing him over his intercom that it had targeted him and was gonna send him through time.  it could be a satelite that was targeting him, who knows?

i dont care about the other stuff.  i'm just trying to show you that its hard to say whether he can timetravel any time he wants to, in just some random encounter.

A satelite targeting him from another time where they will still have to be invented?