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#1 Posted by comicbooksareawesome123 (118 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre Crisis Superman

Morals Off and bloodlusted

No resources like the SOS

Prep Time of 1 week

Pre Crisis Dr Fate

Morals off and bloodlusted

No other resources available

Prep Time of 1 week.

vs

Fight takes place in the skies of earth.

Win by death.

Who takes it?

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#2 Posted by King Saturn (220543 posts) - - Show Bio
Dr. Fate for the win 
Classic Fate was able to tangle with The Spectre on a few occasions ( don't know about him beating the Divine Powerhouse but you get the point ) 
also you have to consider that Superman really has no defense against Magic and that is Fate's Speciality. 
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#3 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3912 posts) - - Show Bio

The Doctor stomps Superman, superboy and supergirl............real hard.

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#4 Posted by Jayfournines (4160 posts) - - Show Bio

With a week of prep? I dunno...Superman's a genius with super speed, he might be able to come up with something. On the other hand, Fate has equal prep, but he's not known as a preppist per se....but he IS the freakin greatest sorcerer in the world...

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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#5 Posted by Baldy (4960 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmm, one of the most powerful sorcerers in the universe versus the guys with a weakness to magic.

...I wonder how this could possibly end...

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#6 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (14349 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicbooksareawesome123 said:

Pre Crisis Superman

Morals Off and bloodlusted

Prep Time of 1 week

Pre Crisis Dr Fate

Morals off and bloodlusted

No other resources available

Prep Time of 1 week.

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#7 Posted by lvenger (28732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Baldy said:

Hmmm, one of the most powerful sorcerers in the universe versus the guys with a weakness to magic.

...I wonder how this could possibly end...

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#8 Posted by comicbooksareawesome123 (118 posts) - - Show Bio

You guys are seriously under estimating Pre Crisis Superman.

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#9 Edited by beatboks1 (8472 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicbooksareawesome123: No they're not pre Coie Fate was physically near superman in strength, invulnerability, ect even without his magic. pre coie Superboy got stomped by Dr Chaos ( an evil version of Fate) who then went to Fate for help who stomped him. Fate for the win hands down. He was a reality warper who had fought Spectre a few times and fared OK. Superman of that era could tow planets on a chin, Fate could move them with his mind.

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#10 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (7395 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Fate wins, not many characters could beat him.

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#11 Posted by drgnx (3673 posts) - - Show Bio

@Baldy said:

Hmmm, one of the most powerful sorcerers in the universe versus the guys with a weakness to magic.

...I wonder how this could possibly end...

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#12 Posted by Sufferthorn (1780 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre-Crisis Superman.....yeah....

(HOW THE HELL DID HE KNOW THEY HAD DIED DUE TO A SPACE PLAGUE?!?!)

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#13 Posted by SpeedForceSpider (939 posts) - - Show Bio

@Baldy said:

Hmmm, one of the most powerful sorcerers in the universe versus the guys with a weakness to magic.

...I wonder how this could possibly end...

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#14 Edited by beatboks1 (8472 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sufferthorn said:

Pre-Crisis Superman.....yeah....

(HOW THE HELL DID HE KNOW THEY HAD DIED DUE TO A SPACE PLAGUE?!?!)

Such a shame that that is all nothing against Classic pre COIE Fate isn't it

He can travel where ever he wants even to the after life
He can travel where ever he wants even to the after life
His blasts so powerful the force of them can be felt at opposite ends of the galaxy and other universes
His blasts so powerful the force of them can be felt at opposite ends of the galaxy and other universes
While Superman can exert himself and move planets with his muscles Fate can just will it to happen
While Superman can exert himself and move planets with his muscles Fate can just will it to happen
dictates terms to dimensional entities, capable of destroying them
dictates terms to dimensional entities, capable of destroying them
casually plays with the time space continuum
casually plays with the time space continuum
casually recreates all life on Earth after it was destroyed in one of his battles
casually recreates all life on Earth after it was destroyed in one of his battles
can make anything a living ally to fight for him
can make anything a living ally to fight for him
He can't be killed So conditions of battle mean Supe's can't win.
He can't be killed So conditions of battle mean Supe's can't win.
Here he battled two god who casually warped reality into a thing of their own imagining (all stars and planets ceased to exist) one he beat them he turned it back
Here he battled two god who casually warped reality into a thing of their own imagining (all stars and planets ceased to exist) one he beat them he turned it back
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How long would Supes last against Spectre, I doubt several pages like every time classic Fate and him faced.
How long would Supes last against Spectre, I doubt several pages like every time classic Fate and him faced.
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#15 Posted by BlackWind (9778 posts) - - Show Bio

IIRC, SA Supermantended to run whenever he ran into someone who could hurt him.

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#16 Posted by Guardian_of_Gravity (2998 posts) - - Show Bio

Fate at his peak?  Steps on Superman like a bug.   

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#17 Posted by Sideslash (5994 posts) - - Show Bio

Fate does a double stomp.

Once while Superman's alive, once after he's dead (for the lulz.)

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#18 Posted by Sufferthorn (1780 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1:

Hm....what is to stop Superman from speedblitzing?

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#19 Posted by beatboks1 (8472 posts) - - Show Bio

superman speedblitzing would be useless against someonenwho can time and reality manipulate, who can also see the future. Also what does Supe do in this blitz, Fate is invulnerable even without magic and as physically powerful as him without magic, plus immortal

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#20 Posted by thestarguy (388 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Fate........like the others said, he is not only a sorcerer....he also had flight, invulnerability & a high degree of strength which he almost never used, because he seldom needed it. He is not as strong as Superman, but he is tough enough to not be physically threatened by him, either.

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#21 Posted by Vrakmul (23829 posts) - - Show Bio

If Fate has prep, he's going to have magical shields up that are going to be way, way, way, way beyond Superman's ability to even slightly dent. And while Superman uselessly pounds away at shields that even Odin couldn't hurt, Fate will utter a single spell and Superman will promptly cease existing.

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#22 Posted by TheSS2GreenLanturnArmy (31 posts) - - Show Bio
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#23 Posted by capall2 (1454 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by dondave (41355 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr Fate ftw

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#25 Posted by comiczmaestro (82 posts) - - Show Bio

Bwahahaha!!! Fate curbstomps! He has magic, one of Superman's weaknesses. A couple spells, then this is over!!!

IN BEFORE THE LOCK

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#26 Edited by hirev_starman (2040 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr Fate

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#27 Edited by christianrapper (4659 posts) - - Show Bio

morals off superman kill him before he can even think to spring any kind of trap.

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#28 Edited by skyroid (2609 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Fate for the win

Classic Fate was able to tangle with The Spectre on a few occasions ( don't know about him beating the Divine Powerhouse but you get the point )

also you have to consider that Superman really has no defense against Magic and that is Fate's Speciality.

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#29 Posted by dorukesin (7421 posts) - - Show Bio

If we're talking about Bronze Age Superman,Kent for the win.But If we're talking about Silver Age Superman he tanked a big bang into his face.Fate couldn't put him down.

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#30 Edited by TheBattleCalculatot (425 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone's forgetting Superman has a weakness to magic.

Magic is Dr. Fate's specialty.

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#31 Posted by christianrapper (4659 posts) - - Show Bio

since both are blood lusted superman kills him.

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#32 Posted by christianrapper (4659 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone's forgetting Superman has a weakness to magic.

Magic is Dr. Fate's specialty.

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he has no weakness to magic. that aura he has around him just doesn't offer any natural protection. it would take some earth shattering magic to put him down. supes still has his overwhelming speed. he could kill dr. fate before he could think.

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#33 Posted by patrat18 (11634 posts) - - Show Bio

Fate.

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#34 Posted by RandomSid82 (9865 posts) - - Show Bio

@thebattlecalculatot said:

Everyone's forgetting Superman has a weakness to magic.

Magic is Dr. Fate's specialty.

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he has no weakness to magic. that aura he has around him just doesn't offer any natural protection. it would take some earth shattering magic to put him down. supes still has his overwhelming speed. he could kill dr. fate before he could think.

How? As shown in the scans above Fate cannot die. Also, he has shattered more than one world with his magic.

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#35 Posted by TheBattleCalculatot (425 posts) - - Show Bio

@randomsid: This is true. Wow, people are actually starting to use compelling arguments...

I still say Fate takes this.

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#36 Posted by ariesxmasters (4887 posts) - - Show Bio

The Pre Crisis era is when DC comics was clearly sniffing angel dust. Having Superman move planets? What?!

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#37 Edited by beatboks1 (8472 posts) - - Show Bio

he has no weakness to magic. that aura he has around him just doesn't offer any natural protection. it would take some earth shattering magic to put him down. supes still has his overwhelming speed. he could kill dr. fate before he could think.

  1. Pre COIE Superman didn't have an "aura". His invulnerability was due to his body being evolved to a harsher planet.
  2. Magic in the SA affected Superman the same way it did anyone else. Just ask Felix Faust who made him the size of a finger.
  3. Pre COIE Fate couldn't be killed. stated in cannon. It wasn't until the first issue after COIE that it was Stated Kent Nelson Fate was weakened enough to be actually able to be killed (Maybe). Those with the power to warp reality couldn't even affect him. Pre COIE Spectre's most powerful attack could only BFR him.

Pre COIE Fate had Super Strength, speed and invulnerability just like Superman. His strength was less but not by much. He also had energy and matter manipulation powers as well as his magic.

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Here is a third rate Dr Fate knock off knocking Silver Age Superboy around and dealing with his blitz' easily

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#38 Posted by New_World_Order (13893 posts) - - Show Bio

Doctor Fate

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#39 Posted by RealityWarper (12332 posts) - - Show Bio
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#40 Posted by Artyom (6858 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Fate...easily.

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#41 Posted by Vitalius (5060 posts) - - Show Bio

Nabu wins this.

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#42 Posted by rabshazam (199 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr fate wins Superman just can't , just to many things fate can do

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#43 Posted by KingOfKings1 (2093 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr fate one shots

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#44 Posted by Grim187 (457 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Fate murder stomps without effort.

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#45 Posted by arqe (315 posts) - - Show Bio

You guys are seriously under estimating Pre Crisis Superman.

And apparently you know nothing about Pre Crisis Dr. Fate.

He is basicly Superman with Magical Powers who could stand up to Spectre.

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#46 Posted by TheThe (1841 posts) - - Show Bio
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#47 Posted by KingOfKings1 (2093 posts) - - Show Bio

Fate one shots

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#48 Posted by Deadpool_ftw (287 posts) - - Show Bio

Classic get put up with spectre, pre crisis fete should win with ease

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#49 Posted by Comicbooklover90 (108 posts) - - Show Bio

So if i am understanding everything right he was multiversal or universal?

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#50 Posted by WF_Mxyzptlk (5325 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre Crisis Superman

Morals Off and bloodlusted

Fight takes place in the skies of earth.

The fight ends literally before it begins. SA superman accelerates to his > infinite speeds and oneshots while shattering the timestream. SA superman has absurd speed feats when cutting loose. Dr Fate won't be able to respond.