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#1 Posted by KingOfAsh (3935 posts) - - Show Bio

Time for a battle of fire and water. Outside Dormammus realm and Poseidom at his strongest in Dormammus realm. Poseidon from Aquaman, but if you wish to use other forms of Poseidon go ahead, but state where they're from. Who wins?

Poseidon, God of the Seas
Poseidon, God of the Seas
Dark Lord Dormammu
Dark Lord Dormammu
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#2 Posted by Killemall (18928 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok i dont recognize either of the picture, which version of Dormammu and Posedion are we using? Marvel Version of both would make it pretty one sided for Dormammu, as Poseidon isnt even the most powerful of Greek Pantheon , nor does he have any real big feat , apart from harming Set greatly and desecrating his temple.

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#3 Posted by KingOfAsh (3935 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: There's a non Marvel Dormmamu? I chose Posidon because he's a water God, opossed to Dormammus fire.

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#4 Posted by Killemall (18928 posts) - - Show Bio

@KingOfAsh said:

@Killemall: There's a non Marvel Dormmamu? I chose Posidon because he's a water God, opossed to Dormammus fire.

Well you could use one from animation verse, mangaverse, zombie verse if you choose, all of those are marvel but different from 616.

Dormammu's fire is actually the flames of falatin, its magic based, water should reasonable have absolutely no effect on him. He travels either universe and sometimes beyond, normal flame, affected by water should have gone out when there is no air too wouldnt you think?

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#5 Posted by NeonGameWave (19275 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu should win.

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#6 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (31130 posts) - - Show Bio

That pic of poseidon is not very cool.. And Dormammu reminds me of an infinitely more awesome villain (one who shall not pass!)

But I'm still betting on poseidon extinguishing dormammu.

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#7 Posted by Sylvain (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

Big D

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#8 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (2138 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

Ok i dont recognize either of the picture, which version of Dormammu and Posedion are we using? Marvel Version of both would make it pretty one sided for Dormammu, as Poseidon isnt even the most powerful of Greek Pantheon , nor does he have any real big feat , apart from harming Set greatly and desecrating his temple.

that Dormammu on the picture is from the animation : Doctor Strange the sorcer supreme movie animation, i don't recognize Poseidon on the picture. but Marvel Poseidon was very weak, he couldn't stop Hulk from climbing the top of Olympus to meet Zeus.

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#9 Posted by KingOfAsh (3935 posts) - - Show Bio

I did say Poseidon from Aquaman...

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#10 Posted by whydama (1126 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

And Dormammu reminds me of an infinitely more awesome villain (one who shall not pass!)

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#11 Posted by 18hunt (3337 posts) - - Show Bio

@KingOfAsh said:

@Killemall: There's a non Marvel Dormmamu? I chose Posidon because he's a water God, opossed to Dormammus fire.

I agree but dormammu has a bit f chance

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#12 Edited by ShootingNova (24880 posts) - - Show Bio

And you used a GoW picture of Poseidon, right?

Dormammu stomps virtually every version of Poseidon (including his mythological variant), save for Marvel's Neptune/Poseidon, who has a chance. According the the wiki and a few others, he is unaffected by heat equivalent to that of one in the core of a star ten million times larger than our sun as well as below absolute zero temperatures, he effortlessly creates blasts that can destroy planets, he has generated force fields that have withstood Zeus's attacks (here is where it makes no sense at all), he has created a dimension from a drop of water (the wiki says he can turn the ocean to a drop of water and vice versa) and he has fought and banished the Elder God Set.

I know better than to trust that without proof, but I'm asking for proof of the above (some of which is somewhat preposterous). I think @Killemall: might be able to help out here.

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#13 Posted by New_World_Order (14895 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

Ok i dont recognize either of the picture, which version of Dormammu and Posedion are we using? Marvel Version of both would make it pretty one sided for Dormammu, as Poseidon isnt even the most powerful of Greek Pantheon , nor does he have any real big feat , apart from harming Set greatly and desecrating his temple.

It wouldn't be that one sided. Posiden is the 2nd most powerful being in Olympus. 1st is Zeus, and 3rd Hades. Posiden is also not that much behind Zeus, atleast that's what Comics have shown. Dormammu equals Zeus, and Odin. So he would win regardless.

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#14 Posted by ShootingNova (24880 posts) - - Show Bio

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It wouldn't be that one sided. Posiden is the 2nd most powerful being in Olympus. 1st is Zeus, and 3rd Hades. Posiden is also not that much behind Zeus, atleast that's what Comics have shown. Dormammu equals Zeus, and Odin. So he would win regardless.

Marvel's "Hades" is in fact called Pluto, with Hades being the name of the world Pluto resides in and rules over. And Poseidon has always been portrayed as rivalling, not exceeding, Pluto. Apparently, Pluto has defeated Classic Strange (although I haven't seen this for myself).

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#15 Posted by THORSON (4513 posts) - - Show Bio

water guy wins

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#16 Posted by Nefarious (33371 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu stomps.

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#17 Posted by ShootingNova (24880 posts) - - Show Bio

@THORSON said:

water guy wins

I don't think so. How did you come to such a conclusion?

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#18 Posted by Killemall (18928 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

It wouldn't be that one sided. Posiden is the 2nd most powerful being in Olympus. 1st is Zeus, and 3rd Hades. Posiden is also not that much behind Zeus, atleast that's what Comics have shown. Dormammu equals Zeus, and Odin. So he would win regardless.

Dormammu has much better feats than Zeus. I can and have made case for Odin being close to Dormammu in terms of power level, and honestly belive he is, given his showings of power. Zeus, nor Posiden has done anything to warrent such claims.

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And you used a GoW picture of Poseidon, right?

Dormammu stomps virtually every version of Poseidon (including his mythological variant), save for Marvel's Neptune/Poseidon, who has a chance. According the the wiki and a few others, he is unaffected by heat equivalent to that of one in the core of a star 10, 000 times larger than our sun as well as below absolute zero temperatures, he effortlessly creates blasts that can destroy planets, he has generated force fields that have withstood Zeus's attacks (here is where it makes no sense at all), he has created a dimension from a drop of water (the wiki says he can turn the ocean to a drop of water and vice versa) and he has fought and banished the Elder God Set.

I know better than to trust that without proof, but I'm asking for proof of the above (some of which is somewhat preposterous). I think @Killemall: might be able to help out here.

Well most of that seem like an unsubstantiated claim, I dont remember anything of that sort ever being claimed from Neptune, nor has he ever destroyed planets, blocking Zeus blast is genuine, but so his being puncked by hulk :p if that counts.

Banishing Elder God is kind of true , just going to paste what i wrote on my Set chronology so you can get full picture, because Set was never in full power:

Spectacular Spiderman Annual 09: Neptun destroys his statue, harmed Set greatly, this angers Set , he plans a revenge, but never takes once. Poor Set.

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Marvel Handbook 1989 confirms that Neptune greatly harmed Set and Set was angry

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So that covers it, he harmed his physical body, which is good but thats about it.

That being said, you are welcome to check out Set, Atum and Chthon chronology thread in Elder God Forum i recently created, they have honstly done absolutely nothing to warrent a claim of power closer to Dormammu.

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#19 Edited by ShootingNova (24880 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: Alright. And it was ten million times the size of our star..... even worse, LOL. I'll check it out.

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#20 Posted by New_World_Order (14895 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

It wouldn't be that one sided. Posiden is the 2nd most powerful being in Olympus. 1st is Zeus, and 3rd Hades. Posiden is also not that much behind Zeus, atleast that's what Comics have shown. Dormammu equals Zeus, and Odin. So he would win regardless.

Marvel's "Hades" is in fact called Pluto, with Hades being the name of the world Pluto resides in and rules over. And Poseidon has always been portrayed as rivalling, not exceeding, Pluto. Apparently, Pluto has defeated Classic Strange (although I haven't seen this for myself).

Somewhat, I guess. Loki has overpowed Classic Strange too, but it is probably PIS on both of there behalfs.

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#21 Posted by THORSON (4513 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@THORSON said:

water guy wins

I don't think so. How did you come to such a conclusion?P

because Posidon is the ruler of the ocean (water). where as Dormannu is all about fire. therefore, logically Posidon wins.

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#22 Edited by All_Mighty_Beyonder (2138 posts) - - Show Bio

@THORSON said:

@ShootingNova said:

@THORSON said:

water guy wins

I don't think so. How did you come to such a conclusion?P

because Posidon is the ruler of the ocean (water). where as Dormannu is all about fire. therefore, logically Posidon wins.

no, sorry to say this, but it's non sense, Dormammu's fire is powerful magical fire that come from Faltine, a pure mystical extra dimensionnal source of energie and home of the Faltines.

just let me ask you this : the sun is all about fire itself, do you think if you put the sun in water it will cease burning?

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#23 Posted by Hyperlight (7671 posts) - - Show Bio

dormammu

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#24 Posted by KingOfAsh (3935 posts) - - Show Bio

@All_Mighty_Beyonder: May sound stupid, but a galaxy-sized ocean...

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#25 Edited by ShootingNova (24880 posts) - - Show Bio

@THORSON said:

because Posidon is the ruler of the ocean (water). where as Dormannu is all about fire. therefore, logically Posidon wins.

Unfortunately, Dormammu's fire is a unique, magical fire that comes from the Faltine, a mystical source of energy that is not related to actual fire.

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#26 Posted by Strman123 (198 posts) - - Show Bio

Isnt DC's version of Zues weaker then Marvel's? Wouldn't that make Poseidon that much more unable to fight Dormammu? Odin > Dormammu > Marvel Zues > DC Zues > Marvel Poseidon > DC Poseidon? Would that be right?

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#27 Posted by ShootingNova (24880 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strman123: DC Zeus has about no feats, and is reliant on mortal faith. Marvel's Neptune (who is also known as Poseidon) stomps DC Zeus, at least feat-wise.

Odin is considered the equal of Zeus (Odin himself said it, they stalemated in a fight), and so on.

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#28 Edited by ShootingNova (24880 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: You said Neptune defending himself from Zeus's assault is true. Do you have scans of this?

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#29 Posted by THORSON (4513 posts) - - Show Bio

@All_Mighty_Beyonder said:

@THORSON said:

@ShootingNova said:

@THORSON said:

water guy wins

I don't think so. How did you come to such a conclusion?P

because Posidon is the ruler of the ocean (water). where as Dormannu is all about fire. therefore, logically Posidon wins.

no, sorry to say this, but it's non sense, Dormammu's fire is powerful magical fire that come from Faltine, a pure mystical extra dimensionnal source of energie and home of the Faltines.

just let me ask you this : the sun is all about fire itself, do you think if you put the sun in water it will cease burning?

MAY BURN FOR A WHILE.

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#30 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (2138 posts) - - Show Bio

@THORSON: @KingOfAsh:

:) no, you do realise that deep space is freezing cold, more than water. water will never extinguish a star, because stars doesn't burn by consuming oxygen like normal fire, it burn by nuclear fusion of hydrogen atoms, water will just provide more ressources to stars.

it's the same thing with Faltine fire, its source is unkown to the multiverse, it's mystical and extradimensional, it won't be extinguished by normal matter from Marvel multiverse like water.

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#31 Posted by bunnieswithtophats (186 posts) - - Show Bio

dormammu, no question. We do ALL know that this isn't a water vs fire fight, right? Dormammu is composed of pure magic. Big D stomps.

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#32 Posted by ShootingNova (24880 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu should stomp most versions of Poseidon, except for mythology, and all versions of Neptune. So this is quite a mismatch unless we use mythology Poseidon.

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#33 Posted by UltraSuperTrooper (680 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu wins. Don't really like him though lol

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#34 Posted by rolldestroyer (3544 posts) - - Show Bio

dormammu wins easily