Despero vs World Breaker Hulk (purely physical)

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Despero

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  • No BFR
  • Morals off
  • To KO or Death
  • Takes place in an arena
  • No prep
  • Purely physical battle
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#2 thedailybagel  Moderator

I want to back hulk here but I don't know enough about despero. Although in a purely physical fight hulk is in his own playing field.

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Why tag @wolverine08 ;)?

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#7  Edited By reaverlation

@wolverine08: Gotta participate in these type of battles to be the best ;).

@frozen I'll get to this in a bit.Got Marvel Puzzle Quest to play right now.

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@thedailybagel said:

I want to back hulk here but I don't know enough about despero. Although in a purely physical fight hulk is in his own playing field.

Despero is incredibly powerful. He's manhandled Superman and Captain Marvel at the same time, with one arm for each, then in the previous page:

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@frozen: WBH emits alot of destructive Gamma Radiation as he fight. I'm guessing that's not allowed, right?

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#12 thedailybagel  Moderator

@frozen: I've seen scans tossed about but I don't know that much about him (other than those few scans). I'm wanting to back the hulk but I don't know enough about despero, I'll stay out of this for now.

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@laflux said:

@frozen: WBH emits alot of destructive Gamma Radiation as he fight. I'm guessing that's not allowed, right?

No T.K, no Gamma Outburst. That seems fair IMO.

@experio said:

Hulk

Mind explaining how?

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I think frozen had a brain freeze and meant to call @theacidskull instead of W08

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@frozen: WB hulks gamma burst is one of the main reasons he's so powerful. If you take it away then it's just a really really really really pissed off world war hulk (who would still kick regular WWHs ass) vs despero. If you limit it to just being in his contacts with despero (I.E. When he punches him or when he kicks him) then it would be fairer.

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@frozen: Greater strength, durability and can heal continously from punches Despero inflicts while sending superior blows of his own.

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#19  Edited By frozen  Moderator

@experio said:

@frozen: Greater strength, durability and can heal continously from punches Despero inflicts while sending superior blows of his own.

Could you elaborate to why he's stronger? Considering Despero lifted the Rock of Eternity and manhandled Superman and Captain Marel simatenously, and often very easily overpowers Martian Manhunter, among others, and despite Superman's own ridiculous durability, he succumbed.

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#20  Edited By ssj_god

@frozen:

first 10 mins

despero >>> wbh

next 10 mins

despero >> wbh

next 10 mins

despero > wbh

next 10 mins

despero = wbh

next 10 mins

wbh > despero

next 10 mins

wbh >> despero

next 10 mins

wbh >>> despero

and so on and on and on........... until despero bites the dust

and despero can't knock out wbh during those first 30-40 mins because of hulk's instantaneous regeneration during the fight

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I don't think Dessy can beat WBHulk without access to his other powers (TP/TK)

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#22  Edited By frozen  Moderator

@ssj_god: The fight isn't going to last that long.

@shazam117 said:

I don't think Dessy can beat WBHulk without access to his other powers (TP/TK)

It's feasible given his levels of strength and the way he embarasses Superman level beings simatenously, and that Hulk does not have Gamma Output here either. However, I'll keep Despero's TP/TK out of this too, hypnosis and BFR are also non-factors.

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Despero easy..

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@frozen said:

@ssj_god: The fight isn't going to last that long.

@shazam117 said:

I don't think Dessy can beat WBHulk without access to his other powers (TP/TK)

It's feasible given his levels of strength and the way he embarasses Superman level beings simatenously, and that Hulk does not have Gamma Output here either.

why? .. there's a time limit?

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@ssj_god said:

@frozen said:

@ssj_god: The fight isn't going to last that long.

@shazam117 said:

I don't think Dessy can beat WBHulk without access to his other powers (TP/TK)

It's feasible given his levels of strength and the way he embarasses Superman level beings simatenously, and that Hulk does not have Gamma Output here either.

why? .. there's a time limit?

No, I just don't see this slugfest lasting 1 hour and 10 minutes.

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#27  Edited By pikachumonster

lol

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@frozen said:

@ssj_god said:

@frozen said:

@ssj_god: The fight isn't going to last that long.

@shazam117 said:

I don't think Dessy can beat WBHulk without access to his other powers (TP/TK)

It's feasible given his levels of strength and the way he embarasses Superman level beings simatenously, and that Hulk does not have Gamma Output here either.

why? .. there's a time limit?

No, I just don't see this slugfest lasting 1 hour and 10 minutes.

so u're saying despero will bite dust before that time?

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I'll come out and say that I think Hulk is probably stronger and more durable, but then again Despero is faster too (as he has Speed-Blitzed Supergirl IIRC).

I'll reserve judgement for now.

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@ssj_god said:

@frozen said:

@ssj_god said:

@frozen said:

@ssj_god: The fight isn't going to last that long.

@shazam117 said:

I don't think Dessy can beat WBHulk without access to his other powers (TP/TK)

It's feasible given his levels of strength and the way he embarasses Superman level beings simatenously, and that Hulk does not have Gamma Output here either.

why? .. there's a time limit?

No, I just don't see this slugfest lasting 1 hour and 10 minutes.

so u're saying despero will bite dust before that time?

Somebody will, I just don't see any comic book fights lasting that long unless it's a prolonged battle against someone like Anti-Monitor, normal comic-book battles don't last over an hour.

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@frozen said:
@shazam117 said:

I don't think Dessy can beat WBHulk without access to his other powers (TP/TK)

It's feasible given his levels of strength and the way he embarasses Superman level beings simatenously, and that Hulk does not have Gamma Output here either.

True. But Hulk has a RIDICULOUS healing factor. I just see Hulk eventually overpowering (strength) Dessy after a brutal fight

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@frozen: Manhandling guys with compatible strength doesn't make him stronger than a Hulk this angry since the amount of strength exerted by Billy when he was on his back trying to contain is unknown, Despero grabbing their heads and bashing it together doesn't give him planetary strength like Hulk unless the two heroes he was carrying weigh that much. Not familiar with the rock if eternity feat.

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@frozen said:

@ssj_god said:

@frozen said:

@ssj_god said:

@frozen said:

@ssj_god: The fight isn't going to last that long.

@shazam117 said:

I don't think Dessy can beat WBHulk without access to his other powers (TP/TK)

It's feasible given his levels of strength and the way he embarasses Superman level beings simatenously, and that Hulk does not have Gamma Output here either.

why? .. there's a time limit?

No, I just don't see this slugfest lasting 1 hour and 10 minutes.

so u're saying despero will bite dust before that time?

Somebody will, I just don't see any comic book fights lasting that long unless it's a prolonged battle against someone like Anti-Monitor, normal comic-book battles don't last over an hour.

lol .. it was only for example.. i never meant hulk's power will rise exactly after 10 mins.. or they'll fight exactly in that time phase... i just meant.. despero will start stronger.. but as the fight goes on, hulk will become the stronger force.. and despero won't be able to knock out hulk in that opening period, because of hulk's instantaneous regeneration during the fight

... this is the summery of my opinion

@ssj_god: you sound very biased

not at all ... i'm only stating hulk's only two abilities

  1. getting more and more powerful as fight progresses (you know, he gets more stronger as he becomes madder)
  2. instantaneous regeneration during fight
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People realize that Despero willed himself back to life from almost nothing right?

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#37  Edited By ssj_god

@pikachumonster said:

@ssj_god: no limits fallacy

what can i say about that... creators created hulk's character like that XD

it's same as galactus with his hunger.. and same as superman with his sunlight absorption

@pettus said:

People realize that Despero willed himself back to life from almost nothing right?

i think once he's dead or knocked out, the match is over.. op says win by KO or death

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has despero being ko'ed

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@ssj_god: That was just showing how good his regeneration is. Despero takes this.

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#40  Edited By frozen  Moderator

@macmukoya said:

has despero being ko'ed

No.

@experio said:

@frozen: Manhandling guys with compatible strength doesn't make him stronger than a Hulk this angry since the amount of strength exerted by Billy when he was on his back trying to contain is unknown, Despero grabbing their heads and bashing it together doesn't give him planetary strength like Hulk unless the two heroes he was carrying weigh that much. Not familiar with the rock if eternity feat.

What do you mean comparable? Superman and Captain Marvel are equal in strength. Despero pimp-slapped them both in the same manner Thanos did to Hulk and The Thing (Despero is stronger than Thanos however). He then, easily overpowered Wonder Woman in the same space. Given that Despero can easily be gauged to planetary given how he easily manhandles such characters, all in the space of a few panels.

He lifted the Rock of Eternity when it fell on him.

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#42  Edited By ssj_god

@pettus said:

@ssj_god: That was just showing how good his regeneration is. Despero takes this.

well, it's still the same... hulk will still become stronger than despero as the fight goes on... i have no idea of despero's regeneration ... but if his regeneration is so good, then the fight will be prolonged.. until at some point hulk becomes strong enough to knock him out.

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#43 frozen  Moderator
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I'll come out and say that I think Hulk is probably stronger and more durable, but then again Despero is faster too (as he has Speed-Blitzed Supergirl IIRC).

I'll reserve judgement for now.

I thought you thought Despero was stronger than Thanos?

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@ssj_god: your logic is the same as the one used by people who don't read hulk but assume he gets stronger exponentially in every fight cause "he gets stronger when gets angrier"

I assume he goes from normal hulk to world breaker hulk in battles cause that happens a lot right?

no.. he generally beats people before he gets that strong... and world breaker hulk is different from normal hulk.. because in that mode, he emits destructive gamma bursts continuously.. without that.. wbh is just a really angry world war hulk.

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#46  Edited By laflux

@frozen: True, but I also think WBH is stronger than Thanos as well.

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#48  Edited By Experio

@frozen: Compatible strength as in comparing Hulk with Superman and Captain Marvel, not comparing the two DC heroes together. And because Thanos and Despero can overpower guys who have strength to lift or move the Earth (Superman, Thor, Hulk, Cap. Marvel etc.) Wouldn't mean they can do it themselves, just presents inertia, stamina to persistently shrug off their attacks and counter with strength of their own.

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#49 frozen  Moderator

@experio: It does mean they can do it themselves, if Despero easily pimp-slaps Superman and Captain Marvel with one arm each, and constantly beats on Martian Manhunter is clearly stronger than them.