Deathstroke vs Winter Soldier

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Prep : 3 days

Location : Gotham

Morals : off

Standard gear

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Probably Slade due to gear

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@dondave said:

Bucky

Ah, maybe I'm wrong then. How come? I know New 52 Slade isn't exactly the same tier of animal Pre-52 was, but he does appear to have better gear.. (basically his armor..). How would Bucky compensate?

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Im not sure but i'm going with Slade

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@dondave said:

Bucky

Ah, maybe I'm wrong then. How come? I know New 52 Slade isn't exactly the same tier of animal Pre-52 was, but he does appear to have better gear.. (basically his armor..). How would Bucky compensate?

Bucky has managed to one up Wolverine while prepped. That's a substantially better prep feat than anything New 52 Slade has accomplished thus far. Bucky's also quite a bit more skilled to boot.

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@dondave said:

Bucky

Ah, maybe I'm wrong then. How come? I know New 52 Slade isn't exactly the same tier of animal Pre-52 was, but he does appear to have better gear.. (basically his armor..). How would Bucky compensate?

Bucky has managed to one up Wolverine while prepped. That's a substantially better prep feat than anything New 52 Slade has accomplished thus far. Bucky's also quite a bit more skilled to boot.

True, but Wolverine =/= Deathstroke. Also IIRC Bucky had longer than 3 days prep against Wolverine, and would have more knowledge on Wolverine than he'd have on Deathstroke (if any, depending on how the OP wants to play it). How does Bucky get through the armor, is basically what I'm saying? :p

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Well DS without prep did good against Lobo, it's a Lobdell comic sure but it is canon.

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@wolverine08 said:

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@wolverine08 said:

@dondave said:

Bucky

Ah, maybe I'm wrong then. How come? I know New 52 Slade isn't exactly the same tier of animal Pre-52 was, but he does appear to have better gear.. (basically his armor..). How would Bucky compensate?

Bucky has managed to one up Wolverine while prepped. That's a substantially better prep feat than anything New 52 Slade has accomplished thus far. Bucky's also quite a bit more skilled to boot.

True, but Wolverine =/= Deathstroke. Also IIRC Bucky had longer than 3 days prep against Wolverine, and would have more knowledge on Wolverine than he'd have on Deathstroke (if any, depending on how the OP wants to play it). How does Bucky get through the armor, is basically what I'm saying? :p

Yes, Wolverine is quite a bit more dangerous than New 52 Slade. He'd beat him for a rather strong majority actually. Thus, requiring more prep for Buck. As for the armor, it depends on if Bucky has his gear as Captain America or Winter Soldier. The shield could break through the armor, though I'm unsure of what gear Bucky in his WS persona would have to get through it.

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The OP says standard gear. Bucky has no way around the nth metal armour.

He loses here.

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@i_like_swords said:

@wolverine08 said:

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@wolverine08 said:

@dondave said:

Bucky

Ah, maybe I'm wrong then. How come? I know New 52 Slade isn't exactly the same tier of animal Pre-52 was, but he does appear to have better gear.. (basically his armor..). How would Bucky compensate?

Bucky has managed to one up Wolverine while prepped. That's a substantially better prep feat than anything New 52 Slade has accomplished thus far. Bucky's also quite a bit more skilled to boot.

True, but Wolverine =/= Deathstroke. Also IIRC Bucky had longer than 3 days prep against Wolverine, and would have more knowledge on Wolverine than he'd have on Deathstroke (if any, depending on how the OP wants to play it). How does Bucky get through the armor, is basically what I'm saying? :p

Yes, Wolverine is quite a bit more dangerous than New 52 Slade. He'd beat him for a rather strong majority actually. Thus, requiring more prep for Buck. As for the armor, it depends on if Bucky has his gear as Captain America or Winter Soldier. The shield could break through the armor, though I'm unsure of what gear Bucky in his WS persona would have to get through it.

That's what I meant when I said "Wolverine =/= Deathstroke". Wolverine may be a more impressive target, but Slade can't necessarily be taken down in an identical fashion. I'm more than willing to back Bucky on just about every other front, aside from his ability to get through the armor. I just don't know if he can. And while he has Slade outclassed in a few aspects, having (in this context) impenetrable armor is not a bad advantage to have. It's not like New 52 Slade is incompetent. If he was able to just tank whatever Bucky sends his way, he could very well win.

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@wolverine08 said:

@i_like_swords said:

@wolverine08 said:

@i_like_swords said:

@wolverine08 said:

@dondave said:

Bucky

Ah, maybe I'm wrong then. How come? I know New 52 Slade isn't exactly the same tier of animal Pre-52 was, but he does appear to have better gear.. (basically his armor..). How would Bucky compensate?

Bucky has managed to one up Wolverine while prepped. That's a substantially better prep feat than anything New 52 Slade has accomplished thus far. Bucky's also quite a bit more skilled to boot.

True, but Wolverine =/= Deathstroke. Also IIRC Bucky had longer than 3 days prep against Wolverine, and would have more knowledge on Wolverine than he'd have on Deathstroke (if any, depending on how the OP wants to play it). How does Bucky get through the armor, is basically what I'm saying? :p

Yes, Wolverine is quite a bit more dangerous than New 52 Slade. He'd beat him for a rather strong majority actually. Thus, requiring more prep for Buck. As for the armor, it depends on if Bucky has his gear as Captain America or Winter Soldier. The shield could break through the armor, though I'm unsure of what gear Bucky in his WS persona would have to get through it.

That's what I meant when I said "Wolverine =/= Deathstroke". Wolverine may be a more impressive target, but Slade can't necessarily be taken down in an identical fashion. I'm more than willing to back Bucky on just about every other front, aside from his ability to get through the armor. I just don't know if he can. And while he has Slade outclassed in a few aspects, having (in this context) impenetrable armor is not a bad advantage to have. It's not like New 52 Slade is incompetent. If he was able to just tank whatever Bucky sends his way, he could very well win.

Like I said, kinda depends on what era of Bucky the OP wants to use as gear will follow.

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@dondave: Yet his armor has tanked high caliber bullets.

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@dondave said:

@jashro44 Why? He's been shot before.

I kind of view that instance as PIS. We saw him tank helicopter gunfire, and when he was being cut by Tomo's uncle he stated it shouldn't have been possible to cut him unless there was a lot of precision involved.

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For the record there are some advantages Slade does have on Bucky aside from durability. He's stronger (aside from maybe the bionic arm), he's better equipped, and he is arguably more accurate (cutting a fly in half with a paper clip is pretty impressive).

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Considering New 52 Slade's biggest tactical feats have been "blow a bunch of things up", I'm going for Bucky.

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@jashro44

he is arguably more accurate (cutting a fly in half with a paper clip is pretty impressive).

I disagree with this. The paper clip feat would only really be relevant if Slade employed shurikens or batarangs. He does neither.

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i doubt the shield can go through Deathstrokes Armor

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That feat is so unbearably ridiculous...

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That feat is so unbearably ridiculous...

That's what the armor is for.

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@dondave said:

@jashro44

he is arguably more accurate (cutting a fly in half with a paper clip is pretty impressive).

I disagree with this. The paper clip feat would only really be relevant if Slade employed shurikens or batarangs. He does neither.

Well thats why I said arguably. All though I will say there is probably a reason he uses guns instead of ninjas stars. He also has more practice with guns than he does with throwing weapons so there is that.

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