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#1 Edited by AweSam (7527 posts) - - Show Bio
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No morals.

All are pre-Flashpoint.

No prep.

Fight takes place in Gotham.

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#2 Posted by Saren (27534 posts) - - Show Bio

It would have to be pre-Flashpoint, Rose doesn't have any feats yet.

Slade wins.

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#3 Posted by AweSam (7527 posts) - - Show Bio

I said pre-Flashpoint.

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#4 Posted by Maxwell Lord the fourth (1412 posts) - - Show Bio

Slade ought to lose just because of the horrible pic in the OP...But he won't.

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#5 Posted by AweSam (7527 posts) - - Show Bio

Is it just me or did my Nightwing pic disappear.

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#6 Posted by cascadeking09 (6808 posts) - - Show Bio

@Maxwell Lord the fourth said:

Slade ought to lose just because of the horrible pic in the OP...But he won't.

I think it looks G.

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#7 Edited by Maxwell Lord the fourth (1412 posts) - - Show Bio

@cascadeking09:It has been changed;before there was a horrible Liefeld "art".

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#8 Posted by 0blivion_ (690 posts) - - Show Bio

Does Rose have pre-cog?

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#9 Posted by Saren (27534 posts) - - Show Bio

@0blivion_ said:

Does Rose have pre-cog?

Doesn't matter. Her precog doesn't work on Slade.

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#10 Posted by AweSam (7527 posts) - - Show Bio

@0blivion_: Yeah.

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#11 Posted by 0blivion_ (690 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@0blivion_ said:

Does Rose have pre-cog?

Doesn't matter. Her precog doesn't work on Slade.

Really? any reason why?

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#12 Posted by Saren (27534 posts) - - Show Bio

@0blivion_ said:

@CitizenBane said:

@0blivion_ said:

Does Rose have pre-cog?

Doesn't matter. Her precog doesn't work on Slade.

Really? any reason why?

According to him her precog works by subconsciously analyzing her opponent's body language. A faint twitch, a bead of sweat, etc. But one of his powers is perfect control over every inch of his being. His body doesn't do anything that he doesn't want it to. So if he doesn't display any of those tells, she can't read him or foresee his attacks.

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#13 Edited by 0blivion_ (690 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@0blivion_ said:

@CitizenBane said:

@0blivion_ said:

Does Rose have pre-cog?

Doesn't matter. Her precog doesn't work on Slade.

Really? any reason why?

According to him her precog works by subconsciously analyzing her opponent's body language. A faint twitch, a bead of sweat, etc. But one of his powers is perfect control over every inch of his being. His body doesn't do anything that he doesn't want it to. So if he doesn't display any of those tells, she can't read him or foresee his attacks.

That doesn't make any sense, Cassie's ability is to read peoples body language and she defeated Deathstroke. Rose has pre-cog and can see into the future right? so why would she even need body language to try and predict what Deathstroke is going to do? and Rose knows when people are sneaking up on her so she doesn't need to see them for her power to work.

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#14 Posted by Saren (27534 posts) - - Show Bio

@0blivion_ said:

@CitizenBane said:

@0blivion_ said:

@CitizenBane said:

@0blivion_ said:

Does Rose have pre-cog?

Doesn't matter. Her precog doesn't work on Slade.

Really? any reason why?

According to him her precog works by subconsciously analyzing her opponent's body language. A faint twitch, a bead of sweat, etc. But one of his powers is perfect control over every inch of his being. His body doesn't do anything that he doesn't want it to. So if he doesn't display any of those tells, she can't read him or foresee his attacks.

That doesn't make any sense, Cassie's ability is to read people boy language and she defeated Deathstroke. Rose has pre-cog and can see into the future right? so why would she even need body language to try and predict what Deathstroke is going to do? and Rose knows when people are sneaking up on her so she doesn't need to see them for her pwoer to work.

Cass' ability is not the same thing, and the first time she fought Deathstroke she herself said she couldn't read Slade.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/43469/1747612-batgirl_063_016_super.jpg

And when has she ever beaten Slade? She's only beaten Rose as far as I know.

I've said this in other threads as well but yes, Slade's explanation does not make sense. At one point Rose could see weeks into the future and she's blocked attacks from behind as you pointed out. But let's assume she can read the future. Even so, she's not beating Slade simply because she's never been able to on panel. In Faces of Evil he beat her even though he had only just recovered from having his heart torn in half by Geo-Force.

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#15 Posted by Morpheus_ (30445 posts) - - Show Bio
Deathstroke already fought them along with five-six more Titans. Guess who was winning.
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#16 Posted by termiteone4ever (10883 posts) - - Show Bio

lol

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#17 Posted by Nefarious (33088 posts) - - Show Bio

Deathstroke whoops them.

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#18 Posted by cascadeking09 (6808 posts) - - Show Bio

@Maxwell Lord the fourth said:

@cascadeking09:It has been changed;before there was a horrible Liefeld "art".

O, ok.

@CitizenBane said:

Cass' ability is not the same thing, and the first time she fought Deathstroke she herself said she couldn't read Slade.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/43469/1747612-batgirl_063_016_super.jpg

And when has she ever beaten Slade? She's only beaten Rose as far as I know.

I've said this in other threads as well but yes, Slade's explanation does not make sense. At one point Rose could see weeks into the future and she's blocked attacks from behind as you pointed out. But let's assume she can read the future. Even so, she's not beating Slade simply because she's never been able to on panel. In Faces of Evil he beat her even though he had only just recovered from having his heart torn in half by Geo-Force.

From what he said it sounds to me like he means her precog is triggered by, like you said, analyzing her opponents body language. It doesn't work on Slade because he can control his body down to the molecular level. Meaning he can control whether or not his body language gives away his next move. When you think about it that way it makes sense.

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#20 Posted by Void_Paladin (896 posts) - - Show Bio

@cascadeking09: @CitizenBane: I don't know if I buy Slade's explanation of why, but it's pretty well established that neither Cassandra nor Ravager can read him.

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#21 Posted by Void_Paladin (896 posts) - - Show Bio

Also, Deathstroke wins.

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#22 Edited by Lady_Liberty (10703 posts) - - Show Bio

This is another day in the office for Slade. He wins.

Call it 'Tuesday'.

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#23 Posted by cascadeking09 (6808 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: O, ok I see what you're saying. I'm not sure of that either. But there are other statements about how her ability works, it's also been said that it's about adrenaline. So maybe if she's able tell that someone is trying to sneak up on her precog kicks in and she can actually see that person and what they're about to do. That's just my guess.

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#24 Posted by jeanroygrant (20442 posts) - - Show Bio

Slade

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#25 Posted by Bright_Blade (239 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing has been holding his own against Slade recently. Add in Ravager and I say the team wins 7.5/10.

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#26 Posted by PikminMania (4770 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

Deathstroke already fought them along with five-six more Titans. Guess who was winning.
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#27 Posted by PikminMania (4770 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bright_Blade:Deathstroke has defeated Nightwing 6-0. He never lost to Ravager either.

As a matter of fact, he beat both of them at t he same time WHILE fighting the Teen Titans and some others.

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#28 Posted by Bright_Blade (239 posts) - - Show Bio

@PikminMania said:

@Bright_Blade:Deathstroke has defeated Nightwing 6-0. He never lost to Ravager either.

As a matter of fact, he beat both of them at t he same time WHILE fighting the Teen Titans and some others.

That was a while ago. He's become much more skilled since then. Especially since becoming Batman. I'm aware of their past, that's why I said he's been holding his own recently. Ravager once held her own in a one on one fight with him as well. The team wins 6/10.

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#29 Posted by Saren (27534 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bright_Blade said:

@PikminMania said:

@Bright_Blade:Deathstroke has defeated Nightwing 6-0. He never lost to Ravager either.

As a matter of fact, he beat both of them at t he same time WHILE fighting the Teen Titans and some others.

That was a while ago. He's become much more skilled since then. Especially since becoming Batman. I'm aware of their past, that's why I said he's been holding his own recently. Ravager once held her own in a one on one fight with him as well. The team wins 6/10.

Ravager only held her own in a fight where Slade wasn't interested in fighting her. Slade still wins.

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#30 Posted by Bright_Blade (239 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Bright_Blade said:

@PikminMania said:

@Bright_Blade:Deathstroke has defeated Nightwing 6-0. He never lost to Ravager either.

As a matter of fact, he beat both of them at t he same time WHILE fighting the Teen Titans and some others.

That was a while ago. He's become much more skilled since then. Especially since becoming Batman. I'm aware of their past, that's why I said he's been holding his own recently. Ravager once held her own in a one on one fight with him as well. The team wins 6/10.

Ravager only held her own in a fight where Slade wasn't interested in fighting her. Slade still wins.

I think Nightwing's 150,000 volt electrical shock from his suit may have something to say about that. It should stun Slade long enough for Ravager to finish the job.

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#31 Posted by Saren (27534 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bright_Blade said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Bright_Blade said:

@PikminMania said:

@Bright_Blade:Deathstroke has defeated Nightwing 6-0. He never lost to Ravager either.

As a matter of fact, he beat both of them at t he same time WHILE fighting the Teen Titans and some others.

That was a while ago. He's become much more skilled since then. Especially since becoming Batman. I'm aware of their past, that's why I said he's been holding his own recently. Ravager once held her own in a one on one fight with him as well. The team wins 6/10.

Ravager only held her own in a fight where Slade wasn't interested in fighting her. Slade still wins.

I think Nightwing's 150,000 volt electrical shock from his suit may have something to say about that. It should stun Slade long enough for Ravager to finish the job.

Now if only Nightwing's 150,000 volt electrical shock from his suit hadn't failed to put down Saiko.

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#32 Posted by Killemall (18928 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

It would have to be pre-Flashpoint, Rose doesn't have any feats yet.

Slade wins.

She due to fight Superboy next, and unless its a massive curbstomp its a good feat for her.

But yeah Slade wins, i am with u on that one :)

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#33 Posted by Vouile (700 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bright_Blade said:

Nightwing has been holding his own against Slade recently. Add in Ravager and I say the team wins 7.5/10.

This.

Vouile

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#34 Posted by Saren (27534 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

Deathstroke already fought them along with five-six more Titans. Guess who was winning.
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#35 Posted by God_Spawn (40735 posts) - - Show Bio

Slade.

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#36 Posted by Erick_Williams (998 posts) - - Show Bio

Deathstroke wins