Death Seed Sentry VS Superman, Black Adam, Captain Marvel

The main Team drom DC Comics is the Pre Flashpoint/New 52 versions.

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Sentry

Again, Sentry doesn't belong in powerhouse battles.

I'd say he's WELL above very high herald level AT LEAST.

Well, this version is Post Crisis (in DC `s case), so maybe the trio have a good chance.

They can't beat him....

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@realitywarper

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@sophia89

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F*cking Sentry.

Sentry.

Don't see what they can really do to Sentry with their powersets.

If we are very very cautious we can argue that he is above Thanos-level, in the upper-tier of Trascendent characters but a his feats and characters statements imply a lot more than this.

Sentry...

Sentry stomps

Agreed. Sentry is way more powerful than people class him to be, and they know it. They just lowball him because they hate him as a character. He is easily cosmic/abtract level imo

@realitywarper: @lemonsauce: "easily"

*looks to see if nobody is watching*

meh. I'd say he's celestial level right now. With implied power he's probably somewhere between Galactus and Eternity.

DSS can be considered a high level cosmic being , but he IS NOT IN THE LEAGUE OF BIG G AND ETERNITY.

Also DSS slaughters .

Then why does Silver Surfer have better feats than him?

Sentry

Sentry.

Sentry

DSS

@mr-luxcipher: Sure, Surfer is arguably stronger than him.

Sentry easily

Sentry.

@mr-luxcipher: Death Seed Sentry has only appeared in like 4 issues of a comic. Of course Surfer will have more high end feats.

@heirtothekingdom: Surfer is superior in every regard to Death Seed Sentry, most of his feats have been replicated by regular Superman.

Sentry is over rated too much he isn't Galen level until feats prove otherwise. That said he still wins here unless atom pulls something magically delicious but probably not

@thekinfing: So Superman has more physical strength than everyone else on Marvel earth bar Thor and Hulk? That's what Sentry has shown.

@heirtothekingdom:

Yes and no. Sentry is indeed stronger, but Superman has better lifting feats. Sentry helping lift Exilar Foot doesn't prove that he is stronger than most of Marvel Earth considering that Rogue didn't absorbed the powers of all of Marvel Heroes, only a couple hundreds and by Rogue own admission those powers we're tearing her apart and she could barely control them. There is also the issue that Post-Flashpoint Superman already replicated a feat just like that, only that better.

Rogue admitting that the powers were too much for her.

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Superman(with the help of Martian Manhunter) helped move Brainac's ship, the same ship that completely dwarfed the Earth(See the first scan for the comparison), and the same ship that was falling at 36,000 miles per hour to Earth.

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@thekinfing: Just because the power was tearing her apart, doesn't mean she didn't utilise it. That's crazy impressive when you take into account that Exitar was actually trying to step down on the planet which means that Sentry had to overcome that force by himself too. There is also the fact that I'm not sold on Superman being above most characters on Marvel earth like Sentry was.

@heirtothekingdom:

Actually, it does mean she couldn't control it, or atleast not properly.

Yeah, and Clark(and J'ohn) also did that, and unlike with the Elixar Foot we actually have a given speed. Also you haven't adressed the fact that Brainac's ship was bigger than Exitar's foot, by a alot.

Like I said before Rogue DID NOT took the powers of all of Marvel Earth, only a couple hundreds.

Well, by lifting feats he seems to be, also could you mind naming me some of the characters that Rogue took the power's from? Because I will take 1 Superman over 300 Spidermen any day of the week.

@thekinfing:

You're adding your own interpretation to it. That's like say Franklin Richards is a high tier reality warper because he can't control his power. Rogue had that level of power, however she couldn't control it. Doesn't mean she couldn't draw from it. A lot of times when characters cannot control power, they actually expend more than they wish to.

How many heroes do you think is on earth, lol. Obviously a couple of hundredreds is still a lot. It's more than you're given credit for, because the whole point of what they were doing was to draw power from characters all over the earth.

Blue Marvel, Hyperion, Skaar, Rulk, and so on would all be included. Don't focus on the weaker characters.

@thekinfing:

What does controlling the power have to do with anything? You don't have to be able to control something in order to use it. Controlling it would mean she could use it more effectively, it doesn't necessarily mean she would be more powerful. Heck, if you read the whole of Uncanny Avengers you would know this. When she absorbed Wonder Man's power, she one-shot killed Grim Reaper because she couldn't control it.

His feat is not superior. I'm sorry to say but you would have to be a pretty big fan of Superman to think he's stronger than someone who curbstomped Thor.

I'm gonna end this now, because this smells like bias.

@heirtothekingdom:

The thing is I never claimed that he was stronger than Death Seed Sentry, in fact in my very first comment I stated that he was inferior to him, you for some reason decided to ignore that part of my comment. I never claim that he would beat Death Seed Sentry or that he is stronger than him, only that he has better lifting feats(Which is true), but sure lets end this here.

@heirtothekingdom: If it wasn't for Sentry's showing against Thor, tbh, Sentry wouldn't be as impressive.

@thekinfing: Well to be more powerful than someone, you would have to have more impressive feats in most cases. I'm just saying that had Sentry shown more feats, he wouldn't be doubted as much.

@reaverlation: I can see where you're coming from, though that Celestial feat and his whole not needing a body is impressive. Though I think most of the reason he's doubted is because this version of him was in only like 4 issues or so.

@heirtothekingdom: Ok.

So, would you be willing to agree that Death Seed Sentry is more powerful but that New 52 Superman is superior or the the very least comparable in lifting strength?

I usually think DS Sentry would beat Surfer because he does have the ability to put down Surfer while Surfer really does not have a counter for healing factor in Atomic level.

In topic:

Sentry wins.

@thekinfing: If you care, I agree New 52 Clark is as strong if not stronger in lifting strength than DS Sentry.

@thekinfing: Nope. Death Seed Sentry overpowered Thor physically in a way not many characters have done. Even Hulk (who I put above Superman in strength) hasn't done so as easily. If you think Superman is comparable, you're essentially saying that Superman can do the same to Thor.

I do care.

It just annoys me how he just dismissed the Brainac Ship feat with the excuse that would put New 52 Superman over Sentry(In Lifting only of course) and how he started claiming that I was a big Superman Fanboy when I proved all that I said, and I think we can all agree that the Brainac ship is at the very least(and Im lowballing here) around the Exitar Foot feat.

@heirtothekingdom: The celestial feat is impressive because Exitar, in another reality, destroyed Earth casually with his step and Sentry literally stopped it without even trying. Rogue having hundreds of powers is cool, though ambiguous, but she couldn't access their powers correctly IIRC. Sentry treated Thor like Surfer treated Beta Ray Bill though

@thekinfing:

Lifting Strength =/= Striking Strength. I think you should now that at this point. Also, no, I don't believe that Superman can overpower Thor in physicals.

I'm well aware of this. It took Superman's heaviest blows to cause the planet to shake. While casually striking Thor, Sentry had the force of his blow felt across the planet. In their second encounter he floored Thor with a single blow, which took him out of the battle for a bit. Superman isn't exceeding him in either category.

Cool? Look man I already agreed that Death Seed Sentry is superior to New 52 Superman, far superior. What do you want me to say? That he fodderizes him? I just want you to tell me that you can or can't agree with the idea of New 52 Superman being comparable to Death Seed Sentry in purely lifting Strength.

Agreed on both parts. Sentry may not be the most liked characters, however his feats are nothing short of impressive, not to mention hard for other characters to replicate.

@thekinfing:

Cool? Look man I already agreed that Death Seed Sentry is superior to New 52 Superman, far superior. What do you want me to say? That he fodderizes him? I just want you to tell me that you can or can't agree with the idea of New 52 Superman being comparable to Death Seed Sentry in purely lifting Strength.

And I gave you my answer with not only my opinion, but evidence too. Not only do I feel he's more powerful, but I think he's stronger, strikes harder, and is faster. He's above Superman in all categories to make things short, so no, I don't agree Superman is comparable to Sentry. In fact, if they fought, Superman would get the H'el treatment all over again.