rank them from strongest to weakest if they crossedover

1. omni king

2. priest guy Whis said is in the top 5 strongest in the multiverse

3. Whis/Vados

4. Beerus/Champa

5. ssj4 Gogeta

6. Black/Hit/Golden Frieza/Omega Shenron/ssb Goku and Vegeta

7. ssj4 Goku/Vegeta, ssg Goku

1. Batman

2. Batman

3. Batman

4. Batman

5. /Thread

1. Omniking

2. Daishinkan

3)Vados

4) Whis

5)Beerus

6) Champa

7)Black

9)Hit

9) Goku/Vegeta

10) Golden Frieza

11) Ssg Goku

12) Ssj4 Gogeta

GT IS NOT GOD TIER FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!

@beast_mode999: Got tier isn't special. Anyone can reach the level of a god. SSB Goku and Vegeta still aren't Beerus tier anyways.

@alextheboss:

@alextheboss:

For DB yes it is.

No one in GT has ever shown the capabilities of a god and scaling is out of the picture because all of the numbers that make it up are non canon.

Unless you can show me Ssj4 Gogeta breaking a planet with a punch or falling from orbit.

@beast_mode999: SSJ1 Goku fell from orbit from his fight with Super 17, still GT hasn't shown anything impressive that compares to Super's high end or really even low end feats, and even with scaling GT falls short.

Not a battle @jashro44

I see ssj4 gogeta beating even beerus, as long as there is no time limit

ssj4 gogeta was godlike, stomping shenron who can stomp 2 ssj4s

@beast_mode999:

Unless you can show me Ssj4 Gogeta breaking a planet with a punch

Nobody weaker than Beerus or Champa have destroyed a planet with a strike.

or falling from orbit.

Falling from orbit isn't impressive... Any dbz character can do that.

@omega_kai:

True I forgot about that.

Scaling is not an official way to debate which is why I hate when people try to use scaling to justify their point.

If you want to scale based of Character ok

@alextheboss:

I mean scaling is the only way to prove Gogeta is god TIER right?... ok Goku and Vegeta are able catch which who is MFTL

Goku was slammed for orbit

Feats are the only way to go in dragonball or anything else for that matter.

@gamingod:

I'd like to see Goget do ANYTHING Beerus has demonstrated.

Like punching planets to dust or nullifying universal explosions or sneezing away stars.

@beast_mode999:

Goku and Vegeta are able catch which who is MFTL

Do you mean Whis? Whis goes easy on them.

Goku was slammed for orbit

That's not impressive...Namek Frieza tanked a planet explosion while half dead.

Feats are the only way to go in dragonball or anything else for that matter.

I guess that means Namek Saga Frieza is stronger than Cell and the androids since he has better feats.

@alextheboss:

1) proof

2) true

3)except that is obvious scaling considering Cell And the androids directly defeated SSJ while Frieza directly lost to one

The scaling I'm referring to is multipliers which were never canon to begin with.

1. Omni - King

2. Grand Priest

3. Vados

4. Whis

5. Beerus

6. Champa

7. Hit

8. Goku Black

9. Goku

10. Vegeta

Beerus, Champa, Hit and probably Goku Black can solo the entire GT. anyone above them is an overkill.

@beast_mode999:

1) proof

Are you serious? They were in base mode fighting a guy who is way stronger than Beerus and Beerus is stronger than them even as SSB. Whis was obviously holding back.

3)except that is obvious scaling considering Cell And the androids defeated SSJ while Frieza directly lost to one.

The scaling I'm referring to is multipliers.

We don't know how strong SSG or SSB are either. Base Goku was beating a guy who was stated to be Buu level in GT. Super base Goku can also beat Buu. You are right that ssb should be above ssj 4 by a good amount, but fusion is extremely powerful. ssj4 should be at least close to ssg, and then ad fusion on top of that and it should make them above ssb level, but still not Beerus level.

@alextheboss:

1) I'm talking about when Whis was training Ssb Vegeta... or did you miss that entire sequence. There was also that sequence where Goku let go of Whis and had to catch up to him... I can argue that being a serious moment because Beerus was deadly serious about Goku becoming space dust if he let Go.

Super base Vegeta wasn't even phased by Ssj3 Gotenks... and before you say filler it's canon to the anime because Vegeta mentioned the Super human water arc in the last episode. We don't know to what degree frusion works however. Akira already proved he can't give a rats ass about scaling.

@beast_mode999:

I'm talking about when Whis was training Ssb Vegeta... or did you miss that entire sequence.

Was that from the manga? Either way Whis was obviously holding back.

There was also that sequence where Goku let go of Whis and had to catch up to him...

He never stopped moving fast. He was just slowing down a bit and caught back up. he never even left Whis' bubble of ki.

I can argue that being a serious moment because Beerus was deadly serious about Goku becoming space dust if he let Go.

That would mean Goku can't survive at that speed without Whis' protection.

Super base Vegeta wasn't even phased by Ssj3 Gotenks

Ya base super Vegeta is stronger than base GT Goku.

Akira already proved he can't give a rats ass about scaling.

this is true

imo

base GT Goku<base super Goku<ssj4 Goku<=SSG Goku<SSB Goku<ssj4 Gogeta<Beerus

I would still rate ssj4 gogeta above everyone less than beerus, i think he is on par with beerus or even stronger.

A being who could stomp 2 ssj4's like fodder couldnt even dream of putting up a fight against ssj4 gogeta, he was many leagues above anyone in gt, i see him stomping anyone below beerus

red haired ssjg goku could still somewhat put up a fight against beerus, ssjg goku wouldnt have a prayer against someone who could stomp the guy who could stomp 2 ssj4's at the same time

i wouldnt even rate beerus above ssj4 gogeta to be honest, at worst i would say he is on par with beerus, but if i were to put my money? I would bet on gogeta

If people are still rating SSJ4 Gogeta on level with SSG or stronger than you really have no knowledge of DB. Its so obvious now its hard to believe people can still be that stupid...

1.Whis Vado

2.Beerus

3.Hit

4.Black

ssb vegeta solos ssb goku solos hit solos black solos beerus is overkill whis god stomps high priest king of god stomps omniking infinite stomps gt

None below beerus can beat ssj4 gogeta that's a fact

anyone can become a god if their powerlevel reaches that end. Its the next transformation after ss3 instead of ssj4.

Ssj4 gogeta is leagues above a dude who can stomp two ssj4, ssjg or anyone under beerus is canon fodder for gogeta

@gamingod: No. Just No.

Zenos

High priest

Zenos Guards

Vados

Whis

Berus

Champa

Black

Goku

Hit

Vegeta

Copy vegeta

Golden Freeza

Mangetta

GT sucks

Frieza Oneshotted Whis,Beerus, and earth with this attack . And people consider him weaker than champa.

@dragonbellz: Beerus and Whis were not effected by that whatsoever...Champa would absolutely shit on Frieza. Champa is way above Goku, Vegeta and Hit...hence why he is the God of Destruction...

That's not a strike, it's an energy attack.

Frieza Oneshotted Whis,Beerus, and earth with this attack . And people consider him weaker than champa.

@alextheboss said:

@dragonbellz said:

@alextheboss said:

@beast_mode999:

Unless you can show me Ssj4 Gogeta breaking a planet with a punch

Nobody weaker than Beerus or Champa have destroyed a planet with a strike.

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Frieza Oneshotted Whis,Beerus, and earth with this attack . And people consider him weaker than champa.

That's not a strike, it's an energy attack.

Frieza Oneshotted Whis,Beerus, and earth with this attack . And people consider him weaker than champa.

He literally Tapped the ground, Thats obviously his hand striking it.

Once the planet exploded you can see that there was nothing left. Beerus and whis didnt survive.

@dragonbellz said:

@alextheboss said:

That's not a strike, it's an energy attack.

Frieza Oneshotted Whis,Beerus, and earth with this attack . And people consider him weaker than champa.

He literally Tapped the ground, Thats obviously his hand striking it.

Once the planet exploded you can see that there was nothing left. Beerus and whis didnt survive.

Um no, he used a ki shockwave to bust the planet. Striking a planet doesn't do that. This is what happens when Frieza strikes the planet, lol.