Prime and Surfer go down IMO. Prime's power set against Monarch wasn't his NORMAL powerset and he QUICKLY burned through that energy in battle with Monarch. I'm sure he'd burn through it just as quickly with Monarch AND Darkseid on the scene. And Surfer dies for sure. Prime will follow as soon as he burns through that guardian's energy. (I say guardian's energy because the MAN version was amped by that if I remember correctly)
Darkseid vs Silver Surfer vs Superman Prime vs Monarch
Well actually, IMO it's between Monarch and Darkseid. I honestly can't see what either can do to take the other down. I'd lean towards a stalemate. But if I HAVE to say one or the other I'd feel safer saying Darkseid.
"This is pre crisis darkseid...."Oh... now you tell us. lol Well if thats the case PC Darkseid would win... with Monarch and Surfer battling for second...
"never give up said:Ummm speed factors come on not that easy when the guy was superboy prime he punched through reality, monarch took hits from a stronger superman prime this is anyone match."This is pre crisis darkseid...."Oh... now you tell us. lol Well if thats the case PC Darkseid would win... with Monarch and Surfer battling for second... "
"King Saturn said:Doesnt Matter. Pre Crisis Darkseid beat Pre Crisis Superman and other Kryptonians... meaning he has dealt with Superman Prime level speeds... and plus in this case the Omega Beams are so much more powerful... compared to what DS could do in the current days..."never give up said:Ummm speed factors come on not that easy when the guy was superboy prime he punched through reality, monarch took hits from a stronger superman prime this is anyone match.""This is pre crisis darkseid...."Oh... now you tell us. lol Well if thats the case PC Darkseid would win... with Monarch and Surfer battling for second... "
"never give up said:So you are saying he can easily take out monarch,superman prime, and silver surfer with an upgrade."King Saturn said:Doesnt Matter. Pre Crisis Darkseid beat Pre Crisis Superman and other Kryptonians... meaning he has dealt with Superman Prime level speeds... and plus in this case the Omega Beams are so much more powerful... compared to what DS could do in the current days...""never give up said:Ummm speed factors come on not that easy when the guy was superboy prime he punched through reality, monarch took hits from a stronger superman prime this is anyone match.""This is pre crisis darkseid...."Oh... now you tell us. lol Well if thats the case PC Darkseid would win... with Monarch and Surfer battling for second... "
But superboy prime burned through the guardians energ pretty quick fighting Monarch. So IMO he's not really a factor for the win. He'll put up a fight, but he WILL go down.
"But superboy prime burned through the guardians energ pretty quick fighting Monarch. So IMO he's not really a factor for the win. He'll put up a fight, but he WILL go down."What about silver surfer...
"King Saturn said:Probably. Pre Crisis Darkseid was a beast... he took out Mordru and Time Trapper..."never give up said:So you are saying he can easily take out monarch,superman prime, and silver surfer with an upgrade.""King Saturn said:Doesnt Matter. Pre Crisis Darkseid beat Pre Crisis Superman and other Kryptonians... meaning he has dealt with Superman Prime level speeds... and plus in this case the Omega Beams are so much more powerful... compared to what DS could do in the current days...""never give up said:Ummm speed factors come on not that easy when the guy was superboy prime he punched through reality, monarch took hits from a stronger superman prime this is anyone match.""This is pre crisis darkseid...."Oh... now you tell us. lol Well if thats the case PC Darkseid would win... with Monarch and Surfer battling for second... "
"never give up said:I know and he took over a entire planet with telepathy."King Saturn said:Probably. Pre Crisis Darkseid was a beast... he took out Mordru and Time Trapper... ""never give up said:So you are saying he can easily take out monarch,superman prime, and silver surfer with an upgrade.""King Saturn said:Doesnt Matter. Pre Crisis Darkseid beat Pre Crisis Superman and other Kryptonians... meaning he has dealt with Superman Prime level speeds... and plus in this case the Omega Beams are so much more powerful... compared to what DS could do in the current days...""never give up said:Ummm speed factors come on not that easy when the guy was superboy prime he punched through reality, monarch took hits from a stronger superman prime this is anyone match.""This is pre crisis darkseid...."Oh... now you tell us. lol Well if thats the case PC Darkseid would win... with Monarch and Surfer battling for second... "
"King Saturn said:You Said It Buddy"never give up said:I know and he took over a entire planet with telepathy.""King Saturn said:Probably. Pre Crisis Darkseid was a beast... he took out Mordru and Time Trapper... ""never give up said:So you are saying he can easily take out monarch,superman prime, and silver surfer with an upgrade.""King Saturn said:Doesnt Matter. Pre Crisis Darkseid beat Pre Crisis Superman and other Kryptonians... meaning he has dealt with Superman Prime level speeds... and plus in this case the Omega Beams are so much more powerful... compared to what DS could do in the current days...""never give up said:Ummm speed factors come on not that easy when the guy was superboy prime he punched through reality, monarch took hits from a stronger superman prime this is anyone match.""This is pre crisis darkseid...."Oh... now you tell us. lol Well if thats the case PC Darkseid would win... with Monarch and Surfer battling for second... "
"never give up said:Indeed"This is pre crisis darkseid...."
Then you've sealed the other trio's fate :-)"
Surfer is by far the weakest link here
Either he gets erased by the OE
Monarch turns Surfer into a pile of ashes
Or Prime beats Surfer into a silver puddle of goo
Surfer has no business being in this fight
"What an idiot you are Hal jordan no matter how many people tell you you still disrespect surfer I will send you some comics of surfer and then you shall see how powerful he is because you obviously don't know."Thgis is pre crisis darkseid. Surfer might as well lay down and play dead
"SeSAW said:LOL"What an idiot you are Hal jordan no matter how many people tell you you still disrespect surfer I will send you some comics of surfer and then you shall see how powerful he is because you obviously don't know."Thgis is pre crisis darkseid. Surfer might as well lay down and play dead"
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"Surfer isnt the weakest link though."Agreed... he could give either Prime or Monarch a good fight
"He would beat Prime.....Monarch and him would be a really good match"Its already been proven that energy absorption and transmutation doesnt work on prime
their isnt anything surfer can do
either monarch turns him into dust
prime beats him to death in a matter of seconds
or DS erases him via OE
surfer is by far the weakest link here
Their is nothing he can do to any of the combatants in this fight
get over it dude
"...mabe its just me but i find the abiltity to rearange molicules (ok i know i spelled that one wrong) is a vary important factor."If it would work then I would consider Surfer a threat in this fight
But its already been proven that prime is immune to transmutation
the whole surfer draining prime solar energy argument is old and has been disproven thousands of times now
and ds or monarch would stomp surfer
in this fight surfer is nothing more then a guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time
"How would they even destroy Silver Surfer? He cannot be physically killed by Prime.Um the guy gets curbstomped by galactus
The guy fights Galactus....do any of these guys have more power than Galactus?....didnt think so."
surfer was beaten to death by thanos
surfer has been knocked out by the hulk and thor
Prime is a pc level kryptonian
if he doesnt blitz surfers head right off
he could just throw thousands of planets at him at light speeds
ds could erase him
and monarch is a universe buster he could obliterate surfer
sorry dude its cool if u like surfer but he doesnt belong in this fight
there is nothing he can do
"How would they even destroy Silver Surfer? He cannot be physically killed by Prime.Um the guy gets curbstomped by galactus
The guy fights Galactus....do any of these guys have more power than Galactus?....didnt think so."
surfer was beaten to death by thanos
surfer has been knocked out by the hulk and thor
Prime is a pc level kryptonian
if he doesnt blitz surfers head right off
he could just throw thousands of planets at him at light speeds
ds could erase him
and monarch is a universe buster he could obliterate surfer
sorry dude its cool if u like surfer but he doesnt belong in this fight
there is nothing he can do
"The Surfer is just as fast as Prime....Thanos could beat any of these characters so that doesnt make a difference...Surfer doesnt even have a small percentage of PC level speed
By the wya I am not even a big surfer fan....facts are facts Prime couldnt beat him..."
when surfer can move so fast he could break into heaven and into TOAA territory then will talk
Thanos would lose to DS this has been debated apon so many times now
I already proved Prime would beat thanos to death
a single guardian of the universe would smoke thanos
prime took on three of them
plus he beat down a weakened AM whos leagues above galactus
Monarch is a universe buster who would smoke surfer and thanos at the same time
he beat down 3 supermans
3 wonder womans
incenerated 2 green lanterns
and beat down 51 captain atoms
so yeah thanos and surfer would lose to any of these guys
you need to quit being such a marvel fanboy dude
"kaino12 said:witch is enough. as long as they all kill each other befor him he's in second place."...mabe its just me but i find the abiltity to rearange molicules (ok i know i spelled that one wrong) is a vary important factor."If it would work then I would consider Surfer a threat in this fight
But its already been proven that prime is immune to transmutation
the whole surfer draining prime solar energy argument is old and has been disproven thousands of times now
and ds or monarch would stomp surfer
in this fight surfer is nothing more then a guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time"
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