@samuel_larson_10: i would say hulk but i need to know what can be done with the muramasa claws? and how powerfull are they?
The claws cancel out healing factors meaning every slash Hulk gets won't heal for an extended period of time. Daken left Skaar a mess on the floor in a relatively short amount of time when he used them. Skaar couldn't even walk on his own after his fight with Daken, Banner had to support him out.
@Vaeternus: Disappearing in front of Wolverine, Deadpool and Spider-Man using a special technique. He embarrassed Deadpool in a fight. Wolverine said Daken was more skilled than he was and Logan had to use the muramasa blade along with a tune up training from Silver Samurai in order to beat him. Daken was able to fight Cyber, fight Spider-Man (could have killed him in their fight with his disappearing trick and or pheromones). He's tanked blows from a pissed off Thing and Skaar. He's survived being napalmed and a bomb that blew up a building and while burnt down to a muscle level, he was conscious. And with the Muramasa claws he utterly destroyed Skaar in a fight. Skaar couldn't hit him and Daken kept on the move and the muramasa claws cancel out healing factors with each strike for an extended period of time.
@Vaeternus: Disappearing in front of Wolverine, Deadpool and Spider-Man using a special technique. He embarrassed Deadpool in a fight. Wolverine said Daken was more skilled than he was and Logan had to use the muramasa blade along with a tune up training from Silver Samurai in order to beat him. Daken was able to fight Cyber, fight Spider-Man (could have killed him in their fight with his disappearing trick and or pheromones). He's tanked blows from a pissed off Thing and Skaar. He's survived being napalmed and a bomb that blew up a building and while burnt down to a muscle level, he was conscious. And with the Muramasa claws he utterly destroyed Skaar in a fight. Skaar couldn't hit him and Daken kept on the move and the muramasa claws cancel out healing factors with each strike for an extended period of time.
Oh wow, thanks dude lol wow..pretty impressive. Learning Daken then here, that's pretty impressive list of feats.
Huge pain threshold coupled with hugely accelerated healing factors mean Daken, like his poppa, could handle burst eardrums and the concussive blast attributed more than likely.
@Vaeternus: Disappearing in front of Wolverine, Deadpool and Spider-Man using a special technique. He embarrassed Deadpool in a fight. Wolverine said Daken was more skilled than he was and Logan had to use the muramasa blade along with a tune up training from Silver Samurai in order to beat him. Daken was able to fight Cyber, fight Spider-Man (could have killed him in their fight with his disappearing trick and or pheromones). He's tanked blows from a pissed off Thing and Skaar. He's survived being napalmed and a bomb that blew up a building and while burnt down to a muscle level, he was conscious. And with the Muramasa claws he utterly destroyed Skaar in a fight. Skaar couldn't hit him and Daken kept on the move and the muramasa claws cancel out healing factors with each strike for an extended period of time.
Not sure the blow he took from the Thing could be called 'tanking'. :P
@Super_SoldierXII: He wasn't splattered or even knocked unconscious and Thing was pissed and he healed quickly and was fine shortly after. Meaning, Thing didn't one shot him despite of it so yes, I consider it taking one of his hits and not hindering all that much.
@Super_SoldierXII: Hulk to a power full nuke to the face created by an amped Rulk, then got up and ended it with a thunderclap. To answer your question yeah.
@Mr_Ingenuity: So, you mean to say by those two scans that Hulk took out Rulk with one thunderclap?
That was because rulk had been fighting hulk for a while and instead of getting stronger he gets exhausted from the heat because he emits energy. I think he gets weaker as he gets madder instead of stronger. Here is the full fight.
Two: Please, please, PLEASE, no one bring this thread to the attention of CitizenBane.
Why? He doesn't even post here anymore.
Because one of the first threads I read on here was a Daken versus someone (can't remember who). Bane had evidence of Daken being over light speed fast and able to beat the Flash, along with other stuff that pretty much made Daken god. It was horrible. And kind of awesome. I didn't know he left. How sad.
@Mr_Ingenuity: So, you mean to say by those two scans that Hulk took out Rulk with one thunderclap?
That was because rulk had been fighting hulk for a while and instead of getting stronger he gets exhausted from the heat because he emits energy. I think he gets weaker as he gets madder instead of stronger. Here is the full fight.
Thanks for the context jashro44. I figured there was more I was missing. Sounded fishy.
Two: Please, please, PLEASE, no one bring this thread to the attention of CitizenBane.
Why? He doesn't even post here anymore.
Because one of the first threads I read on here was a Daken versus someone (can't remember who). Bane had evidence of Daken being over light speed fast and able to beat the Flash, along with other stuff that pretty much made Daken god. It was horrible. And kind of awesome. I didn't know he left. How sad.
Me and him both were in the thread making FTL cases for Daken. And it was Magneto.
1. Are the "innocents" supposed to be a factor when both are bloodlusted?
2. Are they only lusting for each other's blood? 'cause if they're only after blood in general, then God help those poor innocents against a bloodlusted Hulk in the middle of a city..
3. Would the pheromones even work on Hulk? Wouldn't his superhuman immune system block the chemical signals out?
1. Are the "innocents" supposed to be a factor when both are bloodlusted?
2. Are they only lusting for each other's blood? 'cause if they're only after blood in general, then God help those poor innocents against a bloodlusted Hulk in the middle of a city..
3. Would the pheromones even work on Hulk? Wouldn't his superhuman immune system block the chemical signals out?
1. Bloodlusted tends to mean they are willing to kill but fight within their limits of personality. Since Hulk isn't about killing civilians he won't kill civilians, he is more worried about killing Daken. Daken on the other hand doesn't mind killing people so the innocents won't effect him as much as Hulk.
2. Towards each other.
3. Yes, they worked on Skaar, Wolverine and Cyber. Just because they have healing factors does not make them immune.
Hulk can take it, when Elixir canceled the hulks healing factor for a couple mins he was still able to fight. He has more than enough strength and experience fighting wolverine to put down darken. But darken will make him work for it.
Hulk can take it, when Elixir canceled the hulks healing factor for a couple mins he was still able to fight. He has more than enough strength and experience fighting wolverine to put down darken. But darken will make him work for it.
Wolverine almost beat hulk with adamantium claws and I think he could have done it if he had a way to limit hulk healing powers. Hulk is too slow to beat daken. If daken was to gouge his eyes out. Hulk would be threw and it is possible for him to do that because x-23 did it to WWH
Skaar is stronger than base Hulk he also has better skills, old power and Daken almost killed skaar
So everyone who thinks that this is spite or that hulk stomps or that daken has no chance of victory is wrong
This isn't base Hulk though, it's Green Scar pretty much meaning WWH.
People are making tons of back and forth comparisons between Wolverine, Hulk and Skaar but there really isn't any real direct comparison.
Wolverine has Adamantium
Hulk was dumb Hulk during most of their encounters.
Skaar on the end of the day is still a 8 year old kid with not as much experience. Also when he fought Daken he didn't even use half of his abilities to their full power.
I think Daken would defeat dumb Hulk and almost very easily. But against WWH he will have quite a bit of trouble. We're assuming that Skaar has the same kind of healing factor as WWH does when we have to realize that he only has half his fathers genes and isn't a clone of his father.
The efficiency of Hulk's healing factor isn't like Wolverines. Not only does he heal fast but he can heal faster when angered. So I don't know how long the effects of the muramusa blades would last.
Lastly, Hulk's Thunderclaps send cars flying which weigh tons. It sent Red Hulk flying into concrete. Daken doesn't weight nearly as much as Rulk so it would be a pretty devastating thunderclap for him to experience. The thunderclap doesn't even need to be directed at a person, it has a sphere of effectiveness
@D3athstroke: His warbound and his people still call him Green Scar during WWH and even after WWH like when they fought in Chaos War. So it's kind of confusing in that regard.
Green Scar can be used to denote a persona of Hulk or his skill level and set during PLanet Hulk.
Green Scar is not WWH he was Green scar before he become WWH or World Breaker
I agree that daken stands no chance against top versions of Hulk as i said before
I'm not so sure. If daken fight smart he can still beat even WWH with muramasa claws. Daken can take his eyes out or cut his throat. Without his healing factor WWH loses
Hulk will grab Daken like he did wolverine after his eyes got cut and beat him to death. and Daken doesn't have an adamantium skull to stop his head from cracking open.
@ghost_rider1: The problem is that Daken's claws aren't strong enough to cut WWH. Wolverine and X-23's adamantium claws did but they're A LOT more durable than the Muramasa ones. Daken loses this.
Daken could use his pheromones to calm the Hulk down instead of pissing him off. Hell he could probably just make Hulk turn back to Banner and cut him apart. There's a problem when you make someone with powers based on emotion fight someone who can manipulate emotion.
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