Cyclops vs Super Soldier serum less Captain America. Hand to Hand

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#1  Edited By heymanjack

Captain America retains all knowledge of his techniques etc. He is just depowered (no super soldier serum)

vs

Classic Cyclops

Straight hand to hand combat only.

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#2  Edited By ChaosBlazer

Scrawny Cap has some OK feats against trained soldiers, but he won't fare very well against Cyke's optic blast.

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#3  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@ChaosBlazer:
 
 @heymanjack said:
Straight hand to hand combat only.
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#4  Edited By ChaosBlazer

@Mr_Ingenuity: dude stop posting memes on everything

@texasdeathmatch: OP said nothing about his optic blast.... I guess that means Cyclops has no optic blast. In that case Cap may be able to win, he lacks the physical advantage but he is still a better fighter than Cyclops.

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#5  Edited By mr_ingenuity  Moderator

@ChaosBlazer: @texasdeathmatch: I'm under the impression Cyclops has super human strength. Correct?

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#6  Edited By cattlebattle
@Mr_Ingenuity said:

@ChaosBlazer: @texasdeathmatch: I'm under the impression Cyclops has super human strength. Correct?

Why??
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#7  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@ChaosBlazer: Yeah, wouldn't really make sense if he had his blasts, now would it?
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#8  Edited By mr_ingenuity  Moderator

@cattlebattle: Currently Massive power upgrade.

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#9  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Mr_Ingenuity said:

@ChaosBlazer: @texasdeathmatch: I'm under the impression Cyclops has super human strength. Correct?

Under normal conditions, false. 
 
Captain America still wins unless this is Phoenix Cyclops (current, per the OP).
 
 
@heymanjack: Either change version for Cyclops or this gets locked.
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#10  Edited By ChaosBlazer

@Mr_Ingenuity: I'm sure the OP didn't mean Phoenix Force Cyclops. That would be obviously unfair.

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#11  Edited By cattlebattle
@Mr_Ingenuity said:

@cattlebattle: Currently Massive power upgrade.

True, true.....I think anyone with a bit of intelligence can probably figure he doesn't mean P5 Cyclops
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#12  Edited By mr_ingenuity  Moderator

@cattlebattle:

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#13  Edited By heymanjack

Classic Cyclops. My Bad.

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#14  Edited By Jayfournines

Captain America was sickly, tiny, frail and lame in the leg. Cyclops stomps.

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#15  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

Cap. Even without the formula he's handled himself against albeit not as skilled, super soldiers enhanced guys and he's bested Crossbones as well. He holds a significant skill edge over Cykes that even in his depowered state he should beat him.

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#16  Edited By Dark_Magician

I am going with Cyclops.

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#17  Edited By THUNDERBOLT30

@god_spawn said:

Cap. Even without the formula he's handled himself against albeit not as skilled, super soldiers enhanced guys and he's bested Crossbones as well. He holds a significant skill edge over Cykes that even in his depowered state he should beat him.

That's impressive. Did not know that. I was thinking Cyclops intially because, while significantly out skilled, Scott would be far superior physically but from what you mentioned, Cap doesn't seem like the lack of serum makes him physically frailer than the average human.

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#18  Edited By Dextersinister

There was a thread that came to the conclusion that his skill is because of his formula enhanced brain. He started at a late age compared to most heroes, received most of his training during WW2 which would have included very little h2h and would not hold a candle to modern combat training. His win's while depowered are a common comic book trope where depowered superheroes are incredibly skilled fighters, sometimes performing even better than when they had powers regardless of how much sense it makes.

Depowered a man of Scott's build and intense training would beat the 7 shades out of Cap.

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#19  Edited By Shawnbaby

Depowered Steve in action. Oh and these gents all have the SS formula.

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#20  Edited By heymanjack

Bump

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@Shawnbaby said:

Depowered Steve in action. Oh and these gents all have the SS formula.

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Owned.

Steve wins.

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Cyclops rips his head off and use it as a football