Celebrimbor Vs Eragon

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Eragon without the Eldunari against Celebrimbor with all feats from Shadow of mordor and DLC.

Eragon from the inheritance series. All feats up until the end of the series.

Round 1: One on One.

Round 2: Eragon gets Saphira

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Round 3: Celebrimbor and Sauron team up to take down Everyone from the Inheritance series.

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Pretty sure Eragon.

Pretty sure Eragon again.

Not sure they can beat Sauron.

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@noah_ouellette:

1) Eragon

2) Eragon

3 ) There are alot of strong people in Eragon. LOTR has no wards . They just get Ragdolled .

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@cintona said:

@noah_ouellette:

1) Eragon

2) Eragon

3 ) There are alot of strong people in Eragon. LOTR has no wards . They just get Ragdolled .

This.

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#8  Edited By noah_ouellette

@cintona: there's no one in eragon who compares to sauron. That's why it's him against everyone. Also they don't have wards. But they have durability. Not to mention they're going to have a rough time surviving saurons tp.

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Does Eragon get Elundari?

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@noah_ouellette: You do relise the sheer number of magicians and trained telepaths in Inheritance. This will include the eldunari (for round three). I suppose the real question is: Can Sauron withstand that tp attack. I do not thinks so.

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@decaf_wizard: @thevivas: his magic only works if he gets past the tp of celebrimbor. Which we know is enough to mind control thousands of orcs.

Op says no eldunari

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#14  Edited By TheVivas

@decaf_wizard: @thevivas: his magic only works if he gets past the tp of celebrimbor. Which we know is enough to mind control thousands of orcs.

Op says no eldunari

For Eragon's magic not to work, Celebrimbor would have to have defenses against it. Just having TP isn't going to stop any of Eragon's spells.

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@noah_ouellette: Eragon is one of the strongest magicians in Inheritance. This isn't even a match

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#16  Edited By noah_ouellette

@thevivas: no. That's not how eragon acts. A wizards duel requires you to take over their mind first. Or risk being killed, eragon will try for a wizards duel or go straight melee.

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@cintona: being the strongest person in a verse isn't impressive when that verse is pathetic to others.

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@noah_ouellette: Eragon only ever tries to take over another magician's mind to not waste any magical energy, hoping they don't have magical defenses.

Eragon's method of fighting another person is trying a Death Word and if that doesn't work, engaging in physical contact.

Celebrimbor wouldn't survive the Death Word in the first place, let alone a melee fight.

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@noah_ouellette: uhhh. you really don't understand eragon then. Have you read the Inheritance series??

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@thevivas: @cintona: I've read it many times. I know exactly eragons strength level. That's why I made this fight. No deathwords

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@noah_ouellette: Funny how Death Words aren't limited in the OP though.

Eragon still wins regardless.

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@thevivas: I'm saying no deathwords. Thought that would be implied but I suppose not. Also how does eragon win? His physicals aren't that superior that he can blitzs. His sword skills are arguably worse. Celebrimbor has the skills of talion and himself, of which he went directly against sauron. Who is actually a good melee fighter.

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@noah_ouellette: Not sure how it's implied.

And what feats does Talion have that makes him the equal to an elf? Eragon's physicals allow him to move so fast other humans and even elves (physically superior to humans) can't see him, he has the strength to break swords in two with his bare hands, punch through armored guards and kill them, stab through a shield and then the arm behind it and then out through the person's body, Alice chainmail which was supposed to stop slashing attacks, create gusts of wind from his sword clashing with another elf's sword that knocked down leaves from trees high in the air, and run a mile in about three minutes.

You say you read the books and then make a statement as incredibly false as Eragon having worse sword skills than Talion? The dude beat Brom in a duel with his off hand; Brom had only ever been beaten before around three times, was one of the Varden's beat swordsmen, and a Dragon Rider since he was a teen. Dragon Riders routinely practice their swordsmanship, and Brom had at least a few decades worth during which he only ever lost a duel/spar that many times. Eragon then easily matched Murtagh who had been trained in swordplay since pretty much birth by The Empire's best swordsman. Both of these were done with only a few months' worth of training; Eragon had never picked up a sword before this. Afterwards, Eragon impressed Orik, a dwarf a hundred years old, the Varden's weapon master, and then Oromis, an elf Rider who was at least 300 years old and had trained both Brom and Morzan, the latter being touted as an extremely skilled swordsman himself.

Not only can Eragon light his sword on fire, he can break Celebrimbor's neck with a word, blow up his face with another, break his calves with a phrase, lock his arms and legs to prevent him from moving, etc. etc.

Celebrimbor isnlt winning, and sighting going against Sauron who is actually a good melee fighter doesn't help because a Eragon has sparred with and battled Elves and Murtagh, both of whom are "good melee fighters".

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@thevivas: You act like any of these people are any match for sauron in a direct fight. Which they are not. Also Eragons speed matters not when Celebrimbor has the ability to teleport to him and hit him with his Drain. Of which will be an insanely hard thing to deal with as Eragon requires physical energy for his magic to work. Also those sword skills are really not impressive. You cannot compare swordsmanship from Lord of the rings with Eragon. Especially against Celebrimbor. Who we know to be around 500 years old. Its also known as a direct descendant of Feanor Celebrimbor is automatically one of the best swordsmen in the world. As a High Elf we know his physical abilities to be superior to humans. Faster, Stronger and far more durable. We also know he devoted his life to two things. Swordplay and Smithing. Of which he was the better Smith but still one of the best Swordsmen to ever walk middle-earth. We also know Celebrimbor to be a wraith who easily jump heights of 100s of feet and be fine. Dont think you can break a Wraiths neck but whatever. Anyways back to Sauron. Celebrimbor was beating Sauron. Who had to play dirty to survive their confrontation at all. Celebrimbor overpowered Sauron with his magic. Of which no one in the inheritance series is capable of.

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1) Eragon. Magic spells dear, magic.

2) AHEM?!? I’ve said Eragon and now you give him his dragon?!?

3) Sauron lifts a foot and goes...

STOMP!

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@cintona: in regards to telepathy and mental powers they work similarly in both universes meaning in Lotr and Inheritance cycle, there's no need to bring up the rules of telepathy Tolkien wrote in Ósanwe-kenta essay (Enquiry into Communication of Thoughts), Sauron though is a master of mental powers and manipulation, not to mention that the Ring was made to "establish control over the minds and will of his servants" and is naturally a powerful amplifier artifact, it enhances, all Rings of Power enhance natural powers and abilities of the possessor so I can imagine that in Sauron Celebrimbor team up, they could roll over the minds of most of the people and creatures of Alagaesia.

In generally powers of Celebrimbor in-game are so out of context problem for Eragon that he would be completely surprised, remember in Inheritance cycle there is no teleportation of people only objects, while Celebrimbor in game has flash instant transportation through Shadow strike. Adding ACTUAL Lotr lore concerning magic like elven magic from Tolkien works would make him even more dangerous: songs of power, illusions, altering appearance, enchantments, spiritual powers:

"Thus befell the contest of Sauron and Felagund which is renowned. For Felagund strove with Sauron in songs of power, and the power of the King was very great; but Sauron had the mastery, as is told in the Lay of Leithian:

He chanted a song of wizardry,
Of piercing, opening, of treachery,
Revealing, uncovering, betraying.
Then sudden Felagund there swaying
Sang in answer a song of staying,
Resisting, battling against power,
Of secrets kept, strength like a tower,
And trust unbroken, freedom, escape;
Of changing and of shifting shape,
Of snares eluded, broken traps,
The prison opening, the chain that snaps.
Backwards and forwards swayed their song.
Reeling and foundering, as ever more strong
The chanting swelled, Felagund fought,
And all the magic and miht he brought
Of Elvenesse into his words.
Softly in the gloom they heard the birds
Singing afar in Nargothrond,
The sighing of the sea beyond,
Beyond the western world, on sand,
On sand of pearls in Elvenland.
Then the gloom gathered; darkness growing
In Valinor, the red blood flowing
Beside the Sea, where the Noldor slew
The Foamriders, and stealing drew
Their white ships with their white sails
From lamplit havens. The wind wails,
The wolf howls. The ravens flee.
The ice mutters in the mouths of the Sea.
The captives sad in Angband mourn.
Thunder rumbles, the fires burn –
And Finrod fell before the throne."

Celebrimbor from books most likely was born in Valinor, in the Undying Lands which would enhance him significantly through witnessing light of the Two Trees and he would have additional powers:

"They do not fear the Ringwraiths, for those who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm live at once in both worlds, and against both the Seen and the Unseen they have great power.'

'I thought that I saw a white figure that shone and did not grow dim like the others. Was that Glorfindel then?'

'Yes, you saw him for a moment as he is upon the other side: one of the mighty of the Firstborn. He is an Elf-lord of a house of princes."

...

"By the arts of Felagund their own forms and faces were changed into the likeness of Orcs; and thus disguised they came far upon their northward road."

...

"Then Felagund a spell did sing

of changing and of shifting shape;
their ears grew hideous, and agape
their mouths did start, and like a fang
each tooth became, as slow he sang.(90)
Their Elvish raiment then they hid,
and one by one behind him slid,
behind a foul and goblin thing
that once was elven-fair and king.

"Very fair she seemed to him, and he desired her; and he set his enchantments about her so that she could not find her ways out, but drew ever nearer..."

"The dwarves then noticed that they had come to the edge of a ring where elf-fires had been. Whether it was one of those they had seen the night before, they could not tell. But it seemed that some good magic lingered in such spots, which the spiders did not like."

"Thorin who stepped forward, and as the lights went out he fell like a stone enchanted...Thorin was angry at their treatment of him, when they took their spell of him and he came to his senses"

"Often long after the hobbits were wrapped in sleep they would sit together under the stars, recalling the ages that were gone and all their joys and labours in the world, or holding council, concerning the days to come. If any wanderer had chanced to pass, little would he have seen or heard, and it would have seemed to him only that he saw grey figures, carved in stone, memorials of forgotten things now lost in unpeopled lands. For they did not move or speak with mouth, looking from mind to mind; and only their shining eyes stirred and kindled as their thoughts went to and fro."

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@noah_ouellette:

1) Eragon

2) Eragon

3 ) There are alot of strong people in Eragon. LOTR has no wards . They just get Ragdolled .

There are magical barriers in Middle-earth and there are certainly forms of protective 'magic' (invisible magical barriers at Cirith Ungol and Girdle of Melian a barrier of enchantments):

"He drew Sting and ran towards the open gate. But just as he was about to pass under its great arch he felt a shock: as if he had run into some web like Shelob’s, only invisible. He could see no obstacle, but something too strong for his will to overcome barred the way. He looked about, and then within the shadow of the gate he saw the Two Watchers.

They were like great figures seated upon thrones. Each had three joined bodies, and three heads facing outward, and inward, and across the gateway. The heads had vulture-faces, and on their great knees were laid clawlike hands. They seemed to be carved out of huge blocks of stone, immovable, and yet they were aware: some dreadful spirit of evil vigilance abode in them. They knew an enemy. Visible or invisible none could pass unheeded. They would forbid his entry, or his escape.

Hardening his will Sam thrust forward once again, and halted with a jerk, staggering as if from a blow upon his breast and head."

So it's not like such things don't exist in Middle-earth :), and in scenario with Celebrimbor/Sauron team up this would be especially effective, Sauron's sorcery alone could potentially protect them both from Eragon's magic. Sauron is also something Eragon never faced before, he is a being entirely beyond anything he knows and only some mysterious entities like Alagaesia's energy being, the spirits, the 'phantom' of supposedly Guntera, the dwarven god that Eragon saw in Brisingr book could potentially compare. Also I'm certain Tolkien's Elves with their 'elven magic' could protect themselves from other hostile magics, hell even Wood Elves in The Hobbit could ward off evil creatures from the places they occupied, and warriors of Nargothrond we're told fought "with stealth and ambush, with wizardry and venomed dart", so elven magic is useful in combat, besides Celebrimbor from the game has amplifier artifact, the rings are powerful objects, and book Celebrimbor is credited with creating other powerful magical artifacts (or a copy of it):

"Radiant nonetheless was the Elessar of Celebrimbor; and he set it within a great brooch of silver in the likeness of an eagle rising upon outspread wings." Wielding the Elessar all things grew fair about Galadriel, until the coming of the Shadow to the Forest.

...

"..a jewel within which the clear light of the sun should be imprisoned, but the jewel should be green as leaves. And he made this thing, and even the Noldor marvelled at it. For it is said that those who looked through this stone saw things that were withered or burned healed again or as they were in the grace of their youth, and that the hands of one who held it brought to all that they touched healing from hurt."

And Sauron, Dark Lord is not something to be defeated easily, he faced most powerful warriors of Numenoreans and Noldor Elves, who are physically powerful and possess great 'magical powers', Numenoreans were "men of great strength and endurance", Noldor were also physically tall and powerful, faster and more agile than men, Sauron faced most powerful warriors of both Noldor and Numenoreans during War of the Last Alliance, Elendil (Cirdan Shipwright, Elrond and Isildur were also present at the last combat on slopes of Orodruin) who even wielded magical weapons (Narsil especially but Aeglos as well) and destroyed them, even though he succumbed in the end, not to mention that Sauron used his power to incinerate Gil-galad in a fiery grapple :). Also the arrival of Sauron on the field personally fighting broke the siege and drove the armies at least 20 miles away:

“The Ring misseth, maybe, the heat of Sauron’s hand, which was black and yet burned like fire, and so Gil-galad was destroyed…”