Captain Marvel (DC) vs. Cyborg Superman

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Pre-New 52 Captain Marvel

Pre-New 52 Cyborg Superman (Hank Henshaw)

Hand to Hand only (No weapons, or any type of energy attack.)

CIS off

No Prep

No BFR

Round 1: Morals On. Winner by KO.

Round 2: Morals off/Bloodlusted. Winner by KO or Death.

Fight takes place in an unpopulated Coast City.

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Mismatch, Hank one-shots like he does to Superman.

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@highaccuser: I don't think Hank can one shot.

Captain Marvel's durability is on too high of a level.

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@nick1994 said:

@highaccuser: I don't think Hank can one shot.

Captain Marvel's durability is on too high of a level.

He's literally already done it to Superman who Billy is defined as being equal to.

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#5  Edited By The_Dog_of_War

@highaccuser: Captain Marvel has endured 5th Dimensional firestorms.

I'm pretty sure Hank can't dish out more damage than a 5th Dimensional being.

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@nick1994 said:

@highaccuser: Captain Marvel has endured 5th Dimensional firestorms.

I'm pretty sure Hank can't dish out more damage than a 5th Dimensional being.

Billy never tanked an attack from a 5th Dimension Imp. That's not what those firestorms were if I understand what you're talking about.

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Hank one shots Billy as easily as he's one shotted Clark.

@nick1994 And Superman has tanked planetary explosions and supernovas. It doesn't mean every attack that KOs him has that force. Relying on one high end outlier feat for Billy's durability is an inconsistent and insufficient argument, Billy has no other durability feats that prevent Hank from one shotting him.

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#8  Edited By Mad_Jim

Cyborg Supes is ssoooo overrated . Shazam wins with ease .

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#9  Edited By The_Dog_of_War

@highaccuser: Yes he did. It was Yz (Thunderbolt) that was creating the firestorms. Yz is a 5th Dimensional being.

Captain Marvel ran straight through it.

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#10  Edited By HighAccuser

@highaccuser said:

Mismatch, Hank one-shots like he does to Superman.

@lvenger said:

Hank one shots Billy as easily as he's one shotted Clark.

@nick1994 And Superman has tanked planetary explosions and supernovas. It doesn't mean every attack that KOs him has that force. Relying on one high end outlier feat for Billy's durability is an inconsistent and insufficient argument, Billy has no other durability feats that prevent Hank from one shotting him.

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@lvenger: I could say the same thing about you using the feat where Hank one shotted Superman.

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Mismatch, Hank one-shots like he does to Superman.

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@nick1994: Hank has one shotted Superman at least twice and manhandled him more than once and this is without rings bear in mind. Hank is clearly superior to Superman who is honestly superior to Billy outside of the writer's intent to make them equals.

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Hank one shots easily

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#17  Edited By The_Dog_of_War

@lvenger: But see you're doing the same thing that you said I was doing.

You're using the feat where Hank has one shotted Superman to support your argument that Hank could do the same thing to Captain Marvel.

That's also a insufficient argument, because comics can be inconsistent, like for example Superman can survive a supernova, but then he can be damaged by less powerful attacks from Wonder Woman.

Just because Hank has one shotted Superman before doesn't make him superior to Supes or Captain Marvel. Even Captain Marvel has one shotted Superman.

Now I'm not ignoring Cyborg Superman's feats he's a powerhouse no doubt, but you can't ignore Captain Marvel's high end feats as well.

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@nick1994 said:

@lvenger: But see you're doing the same thing that you said I was doing.

Just because Hank has one shotted Superman before doesn't make him superior to Supes or Captain Marvel. Even Captain Marvel has one shotted Superman.

This doesn't make any sense

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As others have said: Hank one shots like he did Superman

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#20  Edited By The_Dog_of_War

@reaverlation: I'm talking about the inconsistency in comics.

Hank has one shotted Superman, but that doesn't mean he's superior to Supes or Captain Marvel, or that he can one shot Captain Marvel as well.

Especially since Supes and Captain have endured attacks from more powerful opponents without being knocked out or killed.

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@nick1994: what version of Shazam or your talking all his feats

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Pre-New 52 Captain Marvel.

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Hank one shots

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@nick1994: Because Hank has consistently one shotted or overpowered Superman whereas Captain Marvel has only tanked a 5th Dimensional firestorm once. Consistently he gets hurt by less, even compared to Superman who has much higher consistent feats of durability. So I'm not ignoring Captain Marvel's high end feats, you're ignoring Cyborg Superman's entire catalogue of feats in favour of a skewed outlier interpretation. The reality is Billy cannot stand up to Hank and can be one shotted based on what Hank has done to Billy's equal, or quite frankly superior, Superman.

@nick1994 said:

@lvenger: But see you're doing the same thing that you said I was doing.

Just because Hank has one shotted Superman before doesn't make him superior to Supes or Captain Marvel. Even Captain Marvel has one shotted Superman.

This doesn't make any sense

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Hank stomps with or without rings.

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Cyborg Superman beat Superman who is stronger than Captain marvel. Even though Captain Marvel is strong, he isn't going to win this.

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@lvenger: While I don't agree Superman is Captain Marvel's superior since they have proven to be equals numerous times

I do however concede to your point and agree that Hank wins.

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@lvenger: Just out of curiosity what were the two times Hank one shotted Clark.

I know the one time was when Tribunal-Prime took control of his body, but what was the other?

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Hank curbstomps.

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Cyborg Superman wins.

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@nick1994: The Tribunal-Prime instance is one example of what I was saying. He also one shotted Superman during the Hunter/Prey storyline with an energy blast.

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#32  Edited By HighAccuser

@nick1994 said:

@lvenger: Just out of curiosity what were the two times Hank one shotted Clark.

I know the one time was when Tribunal-Prime took control of his body, but what was the other?

The other was his Sinestro Corps tie in.

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