Captain Atom VS. Silver Surfer

Captain Atom wins.

" Captain Atom wins. "

" @Static Shock: The Cambodian was another time, the X- ionixed sword cut through everything.

@Static Shock

" @SilverGalford said:

" @Static Shock: I thought he was the suit "

You have him confused with the cartoon version. He's flesh and blood under it.  

 Nathaniel Adams Silver Skin is suppose to be a part of him, not a costume.  He is described as to have   Dilustel skin, not a Dilustel suit "

" @Static Shock:  Because both of you have been referring to it as a suit, and have been using the term "suit" when it's his skin. "

I think Captain Atom has an advantage due to energy absorbing abilities

" I think Captain Atom has an advantage due to energy absorbing abilities "

" @rbysjti said:

" I think Captain Atom has an advantage due to energy absorbing abilities "

That won't help him win against the Surfer. Captain Atom could take a few wins based on the scenario, but Silver Surfer is more powerful than he is. "

" @rbysjti: I would have to think so. Being less powerful than Galactus doesn't mean Surfer pales in comparison to Captain Atom. The gap may not be that large, though. Captain Atom can absorb energy, but so can the Silver Surfer. When Atom absorbs energy, it doesn't make him stronger. The energy is transferred to the flow of the Quantum Field. "

" well i guess i have to read more about Captain Atom to check if you're right.

Surfer

This fight can go either way I believe. Captain Atom is stronger and i can see him getting a knock out win. Silver Surfer would problly win more times than not though. But fight could go either way.

Might be a close fight only because of Norrin's kind nature. He won't use the power cosmic the way he could've

Atom pulls out a close, yet hard fought win.

" I wouldn't class Atom, as good as he is, Herald level, unless it's Wildstorm Atom, who's the closest. "

" @Push said:

" I wouldn't class Atom, as good as he is, Herald level, unless it's Wildstorm Atom, who's the closest. "

Wildstorm Atom = DC Atom. Only difference between them is the universe-destroying Void power within his body at the end of arc. Other than that, DC Atom isn't different from Wildstorm Atom."

"Same person, obviously, but much more powerfull than classic/standard Atom, at the beginning of that series. "

" @Push said:

"Same person, obviously, but much more powerfull than classic/standard Atom, at the beginning of that series. "

Actually, he wasn't exactly 'more powerful' until the end of the series. Before that, he wasn't different from the original Atom. "

"Yeah, I know that, hence, WS Atom, referring to what hapend to him in that series.  Just making a point. I think your trying to disect it a little too much Static. "

"@Push said:

"Yeah, I know that, hence, WS Atom, referring to what hapend to him in that series.  Just making a point. I think your trying to disect it a little too much Static. "

I'm not trying to discredit you, but I get the feeling that you're trying to say Wildstorm Atom was more powerful that DC Atom throughout the whole mini-series, when in fact, Wildstorm Atom (prior to Captain Atom Armageddon #9, when Apollo started the Void reaction in his body) was equal to DC Atom overall. I just don't want people thinking that he was able to do all those things in Armageddon because of the Void (prior to issue #9), when he's shown to do them as DC Atom also. The whole technopathy thing was new, but he claimed that Mr. Miracle taught it to him prior to coming to the Wildstorm universe. "

I think Surfer could beat normal Captain Atom. While one would think Monarch would beat Surfer, I doubt it since he lost to Superman Prime (don't know the details, though). And Prime would lose to Surfer in my opinion. He's strong, but he doesn't impress me enough.

""My apologies then, cause that's not what I meant or was saying. Again, I just stated WS Cap to differentiate the difference, without getting into the whole mini and breaking it down or saying Atom from issue ? of the WS series, is all. "

"While one would think Monarch would beat Surfer, I doubt it since he lost to Superman Prime (don't know the details, though).

" @JediXMan said:

"While one would think Monarch would beat Surfer, I doubt it since he lost to Superman Prime (don't know the details, though).

Prime and Monarch both lost that fight, and even though Prime managed to rip open the Monarch Armor, they were both incapacitated by the explosion that leveled that entire universe. So, even though both Prime and Captain Atom both resurfaced, neither of them actually walked away from the fight immediately. "

" @Push said:

""My apologies then, cause that's not what I meant or was saying. Again, I just stated WS Cap to differentiate the difference, without getting into the whole mini and breaking it down or saying Atom from issue ? of the WS series, is all. "

It's OK. My apologies for misinterpreting what you said. Sorry about that."

"Ok, fair enough. I'm unsure if Surfer could absorb that (doubt it), so perhaps he could stalemate Monarch as Prime did. Again, I never read when that happened. It happened in Countdown, right? One of the canon parts? I considered reading it but I heard most of it was non-canon. "

" @JediXMan said:

"Ok, fair enough. I'm unsure if Surfer could absorb that (doubt it), so perhaps he could stalemate Monarch as Prime did. Again, I never read when that happened. It happened in Countdown, right? One of the canon parts? I considered reading it but I heard most of it was non-canon. "

It was in Countdown Arena. Other than that, all of Countdown was canon (to fill in the missing year that DC skipped for One Year Later). Countdown, on the other hand, was very confusing and it took place in a lot of different universes. As far as Surfer absorbing that explosion, well.... I want to think he can, for some reason. He once stated that he can absorb near-infinite amounts of energy (though, near-infinite doesn't make too much sense, because it's either finite or infinite, nothing in between), but there was an instance where he was overloaded and couldn't absorb anymore energy, according to his words. Don't know the validity of it though. "

"@JediXMan said:

"Ok, fair enough. I'm unsure if Surfer could absorb that (doubt it), so perhaps he could stalemate Monarch as Prime did. Again, I never read when that happened. It happened in Countdown, right? One of the canon parts? I considered reading it but I heard most of it was non-canon. "

It was in Countdown Arena. Other than that, all of Countdown was canon (to fill in the missing year that DC skipped for One Year Later). Countdown, on the other hand, was very confusing and it took place in a lot of different universes. As far as Surfer absorbing that explosion, well.... I want to think he can, for some reason. He once stated that he can absorb near-infinite amounts of energy (though, near-infinite doesn't make too much sense, because it's either finite or infinite, nothing in between), but there was an instance where he was overloaded and couldn't absorb anymore energy, according to his words. Don't know the validity of it though. "

"Your thinking of 52, Static, which was after IC.  Countdown led into Final Crisis.  Does get a bit confusing lol  Not even sure Countdown or DOTNG is being considered canon these days, as alot of it  contradicted FC! "

" I thought Countdown led to Final Crisis? Or are there multiple Countdowns?   I'm really unsure. Surfer suffers from a lot of CIS and WIS (WIS is my term, meaning Writer Induced Stupidity, like when the writer is simply bias or knows nothing about the characters) I'm so glad you mentioned that thing about finite/infinite. Because it always irritates me when people toss the term "near-omnipotent" around. Omnipotent = infnite, near-omnipotence is impossible. "

" @JediXMan said:

" I thought Countdown led to Final Crisis? Or are there multiple Countdowns?   I'm really unsure. Surfer suffers from a lot of CIS and WIS (WIS is my term, meaning Writer Induced Stupidity, like when the writer is simply bias or knows nothing about the characters) I'm so glad you mentioned that thing about finite/infinite. Because it always irritates me when people toss the term "near-omnipotent" around. Omnipotent = infnite, near-omnipotence is impossible. "

It does. I just got it confused with 52. But, yes, Countdown is followed by Final Crisis. Surfer does suffer from a lot of CIS and such, to the point where people like Dwayne McDuffie think it's alright to allow people like Storm and Black Panther to do what they did to him. But, I don't follow Surfer consistently, so I don't know where his energy absorption stands.   Atom, however, has the ability to absorb infinite amounts of energy, but must regulate his absorption rate to avoid exceeding that rate and Quantum jump, as a result. So, he can only absorb infinite amounts of energy if he absorbs it slowly. But, because of Surfer's cosmic awareness, he could figure this out and use it to his advantage.  "

" No, ss didn't absorb it, he used it (the crunch)  to absorb Aegis and the other one? "

Tenebrous. 

Giving the win to Captain Atom

" Giving the win to Captain Atom "

surfer

" @Static Shock: I think Surfer is getting alittle bit too much credit. Surfers powers are amazing and while he can absorb enegry and some Quantum enegry from Monarch.

" Static...do you really believe Surfer can absorb that much enegry???????

Static what steps did you do to start your own thread? Can you tell me? "

Silver Surfer,I guess.

" Silver Surfer,I guess. "

" @Vance Astro said:

" Silver Surfer,I guess. "

Why? "

" He's more powerful? "