Captain Atom VS. Silver Surfer

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#101  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator
@Static Shock said:
" @Lantern Prime said:
" Oh well he sucks ten. Creating universe and then destroying it. "
How does he suck? What are you getting at? "
He is getting at the fact that he has no argument and really doesn't know what he is talking about at all.
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#102  Edited By Static Shock
@Lunacyde said:
"He is getting at the fact that he has no argument and really doesn't know what he is talking about at all. "
LOL. Well, I'm trying to give him a chance.
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#103  Edited By Lantern Prime

@Static Shock
said:
" @Lantern Prime said:
" Oh well he sucks ten. Creating universe and then destroying it. "
How does he suck? What are you getting at? "
Im just saying whats the purpose of creating a universe if your just gonna destroy it? 
 

@Lunacyde said:
" @Static Shock said:
" @Lantern Prime said:
" Oh well he sucks ten. Creating universe and then destroying it. "
How does he suck? What are you getting at? "
He is getting at the fact that he has no argument and really doesn't know what he is talking about at all. "

Did I hear something? 
 
 
 
 
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#104  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator
@Lantern Prime said:
"
@Static Shock
said:
" @Lantern Prime said:
" Oh well he sucks ten. Creating universe and then destroying it. "
How does he suck? What are you getting at? "
Im just saying whats the purpose of creating a universe if your just gonna destroy it? 
 

@Lunacyde said:
" @Static Shock said:
" @Lantern Prime said:
" Oh well he sucks ten. Creating universe and then destroying it. "
How does he suck? What are you getting at? "
He is getting at the fact that he has no argument and really doesn't know what he is talking about at all. "
Did I hear something?      "
Don't worry I am not gonna waste my time dignifying this with a response.
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#105  Edited By Static Shock
@Lantern Prime said:
" Im just saying whats the purpose of creating a universe if your just gonna destroy it?
Reading the comic book helps you understand his reason for making it (was educated on how his powers work and was told that he was capable of making a universe by a genius) and destroying it. Try it.
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#106  Edited By TruePwnge
@Alpha said:
" I will go with the Surfer. Though CA would be a good opponent. The Power Cosmic would prove too much for him. "
Surfer's awareness would see Atom's suit is pretty easy to destroy, once that happens the battle is over. Atom is impressive but the writers have tried to keep him a notch below current Superman, Silver Surfer abilities just grow stronger and stronger and he has much better battle feats. 
 
and he's way faster than Atom
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#107  Edited By MKF30

I'm not sure...I mean some people out there will argue forever that Cap Atom is more powerful then Dr. M and have some similar abilities but yet most here feel Dr. M would destroy SS so....lol 
 
I wouldn't count out CA honestly...

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#108  Edited By Static Shock
@TruePwnge said:

"Atom's suit is pretty easy to destroy, once that happens the battle is over.

Then how come Utraa couldn't breach it? He's matches Superman's strength. Majestic couldn't breach it, either and he's stronger than Superman. The best way for Surfer to defeat Atom is make him quantum jump, but at the same time, Captain Atom wouldn't allow it to happen.
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#109  Edited By Red_Blade

Atom, his powers don't have limits like Surfers do

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#110  Edited By Ferro Vida

Captain Atom as in the guy who created a universe? I'll have to go with him

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#111  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Ferro Vida said:
" Captain Atom as in the guy who created a universe? I'll have to go with him "
Within the QF.
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#112  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Morpheus_ said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" Captain Atom as in the guy who created a universe? I'll have to go with him "
Within the QF. "
Pardon?
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#113  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Ferro Vida said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" Captain Atom as in the guy who created a universe? I'll have to go with him "
Within the QF. "
Pardon? "
Within the Quantum Field.
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#114  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Morpheus_: Just checking :)
 
I still give it to Cap.
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#115  Edited By Static Shock
@Ferro Vida said:
" Pardon? "
It was made within the Quantum Field. It's the source of his powers. He has limitless control of the Quantum Field, no matter where he is. In the DC Universe, he would never duplicate the same feat (since there is already a universe and he's mentally limited his powers after the whole thing). Ultimately, the feat was written to show his limitless control and nothing more.
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#116  Edited By AtPhantom
@Static Shock said:
" @TruePwnge said:

"Atom's suit is pretty easy to destroy, once that happens the battle is over.

Then how come Utraa couldn't breach it? He's matches Superman's strength. Majestic couldn't breach it, either and he's stronger than Superman. The best way for Surfer to defeat Atom is make him quantum jump, but at the same time, Captain Atom wouldn't allow it to happen. "
He's probably mixing it with the cartoon version.
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#117  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Static Shock: Thank you for the clarification :)
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#118  Edited By OhTru

Surfer hits him with Telepathy
 
Forcing Captain Atom to jump the shark

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#119  Edited By Ferro Vida

Surfer has telepathy?

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#120  Edited By Rick475069

Seems like the Surfer is the man in every battle thread except when going up against Thanos.

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#121  Edited By Static Shock
@OhTru said:

" Surfer hits him with Telepathy  Forcing Captain Atom to jump the shark "

Maxima tried that. Captain Atom absorbed the psychic energy required for it to work. Voodoo, who also had telepathy, got her brain overloaded by all the data/info he gained from a technological hookup using the Quantum Field. The result was her getting KO'ed.
 
@Ferro Vida said:

" @Static Shock: Thank you for the clarification :) "


You're welcome.
 
@AtPhantom said:

" He's probably mixing it with the cartoon version. "

Evident, coming from him. LOL.
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#122  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Ferro Vida said:
" Surfer has telepathy? "
Yes.
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#123  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Morpheus_ said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" Surfer has telepathy? "
Yes. "
Do you have any scans of him using it? Not that I don't take your word for it, I've just never seen it.
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#124  Edited By castleking
a planet lvl blast would send CA into the QF or risk being destroyed......... SS ftw.
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#125  Edited By Static Shock
@castleking said:
" a planet lvl blast would send CA into the QF or risk being destroyed......... SS ftw.
"
When has the Surfer done that?
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I can see Atom pulling a few wins, but the majority goes to SS. 

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#127  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Static Shock said:
" @castleking said:
" a planet lvl blast would send CA into the QF or risk being destroyed......... SS ftw.
"
When has the Surfer done that? "
Annihilation: Silver Surfer # 4. Let me get the scans.
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#128  Edited By OhTru
 
@Rick475069 said:

" Seems like the Surfer is the man in every battle thread except when going up against Thanos. "

Thanos
Despero
Rune King Thor, OdinForce Thor
Rulk with the LoebForce 
Ion
Classic Strange, Classic Fate
Pre Crisis Darkseid 
 
There's a whole list of people who stomp his ass
 
Atom is not on the list
 
@Ferro Vida said:

" Do you have any scans of him using it?  "

 
 Surfer's telepathic feats include

absorbing telepathic attacks
creating illusions
resisting MonDragon, one of Marvel's most powerful telepaths and this was when she had the Mind Gem 
reading people's memories, absobring people's psychic energy, redirecting Psycho man's psionic energy
going to fight on the astral plane
soul punching enemies who are immune to physical force
and creating world peace for a brief period not once but twice 
 

 

 
 
 
@Static Shock said:

"When has the Surfer done that? "

every half a dozen comics he appears in a planet usually explodes due to Surfer or one of his fellow heralds letting off some steam
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#129  Edited By FLCL1
@Apparition said:
"ss "
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#130  Edited By Static Shock
@OhTru said:
" every half a dozen comics he appears in a planet usually explodes due to Surfer or one of his fellow heralds letting off some steam "
That doesn't answer my question. I asked you when he did, not how often he did it.
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#131  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator

 @Ferro Vida said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Ferro Vida said:

" Surfer has telepathy? "

Yes. "
Do you have any scans of him using it? Not that I don't take your word for it, I've just never seen it. "
 
Don't ask questions you already know the answers to...Of course I do.      
 
Shatters a being in the astral plane by pulling his consciousness there.
 
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Regular telepathy
 
 He reaches into my mind. To show me
 He reaches into my mind. To show me

 He's reading my thoughts
 He's reading my thoughts


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
States the astral plane is the source of his power, and as such, is invunerable there
 
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#132  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Morpheus_: I feel stupid for even asking :P Thanks!
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#133  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Static Shock said:
" @OhTru said:
" every half a dozen comics he appears in a planet usually explodes due to Surfer or one of his fellow heralds letting off some steam "
That doesn't answer my question. I asked you when he did, not how often he did it. "
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#134  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Ferro Vida said:
" @Morpheus_: I feel stupid for even asking :P Thanks! "
LOL. No problem.
 
@Static Shock:Sorry for posting the entire fight but I didn't want to be accused of solely promoting the Surfer, or that I post misleading scans. :P
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#135  Edited By castleking
@Static Shock said:
" @OhTru said:
" every half a dozen comics he appears in a planet usually explodes due to Surfer or one of his fellow heralds letting off some steam "
That doesn't answer my question. I asked you when he did, not how often he did it. "
during the end of annihilation, Galactus gave him one last chance to settle a fight with an alien powerhouse.... SS met the alien on the planet and unleashed his power destroying the planet... the alien then asked while grabbing a piece of debri what was he......  The surfer told him not to follow him anymore their fight is over...
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#136  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@castleking said:
" @Static Shock said:
" @OhTru said:
" every half a dozen comics he appears in a planet usually explodes due to Surfer or one of his fellow heralds letting off some steam "
That doesn't answer my question. I asked you when he did, not how often he did it. "
during the end of annihilation, Galactus gave him one last chance to settle a fight with an alien powerhouse.... SS met the alien on the planet and unleashed his power destroying the planet... the alien then asked while grabbing a piece of debri what was he......  The surfer told him not to follow him anymore their fight is over...
"
Accurate. The other guy's name was Ravenous.
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#137  Edited By Static Shock
@Morpheus_ said:
" @Static Shock:Sorry for posting the entire fight but I didn't want to be accused of solely promoting the Surfer, or that I post misleading scans. :P
"
It's aight. 
 
@castleking said:
"during the end of annihilation, Galactus gave him one last chance to settle a fight with an alien powerhouse.... SS met the alien on the planet and unleashed his power destroying the planet... the alien then asked while grabbing a piece of debri what was he......  The surfer told him not to follow him anymore their fight is over...
"
Thanks to you both.
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#138  Edited By castleking
i hate that my computer crashed and i lost all my electronic comics and scans as worse part i cant even upload anything either even if i wanted to... :(
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#139  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
I did nothing you wouldn't have done.
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#140  Edited By Static Shock

The Silver Surfer wins. While both him and Captain Atom have practically no limits, the Surfer isn't afraid to cut loose.

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#141  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Static Shock said:
" The Silver Surfer wins. While both him and Captain Atom have practically no limits, the Surfer isn't afraid to cut loose. "
It depends on who's writing. Post-Annihilation, he has occasionally been depicted as more ruthless, and easier to unleash than before. But at times he is being portrayed as his usual pacifist self.
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#142  Edited By Red_Blade
@Morpheus_ said:
" @Static Shock said:
" The Silver Surfer wins. While both him and Captain Atom have practically no limits, the Surfer isn't afraid to cut loose. "
It depends on who's writing. Post-Annihilation, he has occasionally been depicted as more ruthless, and easier to unleash than before. But at times he is being portrayed as his usual pacifist self. "
Wasnt he trying to talk BRB out of fighting in God Hunter>?
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#143  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Red_Blade said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @Static Shock said:
" The Silver Surfer wins. While both him and Captain Atom have practically no limits, the Surfer isn't afraid to cut loose. "
It depends on who's writing. Post-Annihilation, he has occasionally been depicted as more ruthless, and easier to unleash than before. But at times he is being portrayed as his usual pacifist self. "
Wasnt he trying to talk BRB out of fighting in God Hunter>? "
Yes. While punching him.
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#144  Edited By Static Shock
@Morpheus_ said:

" It depends on who's writing. Post-Annihilation, he has occasionally been depicted as more ruthless, and easier to unleash than before. But at times he is being portrayed as his usual pacifist self. "

Which is more prevalent? Captain Atom has cut loose before, but not very often
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#145  Edited By capall
@Morpheus_: 
 
walking and talking surfer and ironman library, lmao 
 
@Static Shock said:
"The Silver Surfer wins. While both him and Captain Atom have practically no limits, the Surfer isn't afraid to cut loose. "
 
i think they both have that problem, well maybe the surfer not anymore 
 
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#146  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Static Shock said:
" @Morpheus_ said:

" It depends on who's writing. Post-Annihilation, he has occasionally been depicted as more ruthless, and easier to unleash than before. But at times he is being portrayed as his usual pacifist self. "

Which is more prevalent? Captain Atom has cut loose before, but not very often "
The accounts on that matter are conflicting. Let me demonstrate:
 
After his upgrade, the Surfer has faced several powerful beings. Despite being more abrupt, and less prone to engage in his eloquent speeches, I still feel his "change"  has been slightly (?)  exaggerated.
 
Against Ravenous, immediately after his upgrade, the Surfer destroyed an entire planet in order to teach his opponent a lesson and prevent him from intervening further with his, or Galactus' affairs. Despite Galactus' strict orders, he did let Ravenous live, though.
 
Against Nova (Richard Rider) he was apparently merciless. He attacked first and was unwilling to talk to Nova for the entirety of their fight. However, the motive behind that action was Nova's own safety: Nova was trying to speak to Galactus (and was being ignored by the Devourer) the Surfer engaged him in order to take their exchange away from his master, and talk to Nova without betraying his master's trust. He also helped Nova repair the spaceships required for Orbucen (the planet Nova was evacuating, and that was about to be consumed by Galactus) to be completely evacuated. In short, he acted OoC, but only wished to appear as such, since in core, he still acted for the best interests of Nova, and even the entire planet.
 
Against Beta Ray Bill, he was far closer to the classic Surfer than ever, post Annihilation. He pursued Bill at Galactus' request (after Bill obliterated Stardust), and was trying to talk him into stopping his quest of vengeance against Galactus. Bill wouldn't have it and attacked the Surfer. The Surfer swiftly countered and was expressing his sadness for needing to fight Bill (whom he defeated by punching him a few times). He also advised him not to get up after defeating him, because he had no wish to harm him further.
 
In short, he occasionally appears less talkative (like against Nova), and more detatched than usual, but always willing to assist and preserve innocent life, as always. Certainly not completely unleashing, or unleashing without reason.

 
@capall said:
" @Morpheus_: 
 
walking and talking surfer and ironman library, lmao 
 
"
LOL. When a good debate arrises, I enjoy debating both.
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#147  Edited By Torpor
@Static Shock said:
"

Well, would be an interesting battle indeed. But, if I had to choose, it would be Captain Atom... What do y'all think?

"
What makes you choose Captain Atom?  Sounds like a high level of fanboyism to say he can beat someone like Surfer.   I hope this thread was a lesson in humility for you.
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#148  Edited By Static Shock
@Torpor said:
" What makes you choose Captain Atom?  Sounds like a high level of fanboyism to say he can beat someone like Surfer.   I hope this thread was a lesson in humility for you. "
You're the last person to talk about a high-level of fanboyism, especially for posting a nonsense video in the Batman vs Bane thread, and saying that Bane is below Batman. You shouldn't respond to posts that were made two years ago. Opinions change. For example....
 
@Static Shock said:
" The Silver Surfer wins. While both him and Captain Atom have practically no limits, the Surfer isn't afraid to cut loose. "
That was made yesterday, Klandicar. In any case, there could be some scenarios where Atom could win.... Do me a favor and...
 
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#149  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Static Shock said:
" @Torpor said:
" What makes you choose Captain Atom?  Sounds like a high level of fanboyism to say he can beat someone like Surfer.   I hope this thread was a lesson in humility for you. "
You're the last person to talk about a high-level of fanboyism, especially for posting a nonsense video in the Batman vs Bane thread, and saying that Bane is below Batman. You shouldn't respond to posts that were made two years ago. Opinions change. For example....
 
@Static Shock said:
" The Silver Surfer wins. While both him and Captain Atom have practically no limits, the Surfer isn't afraid to cut loose. "
That was made yesterday, Klandicar. In any case, there could be some scenarios where Atom could win.... Do me a favor and...
 
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probably the silver surfer actually no DEFINETLY the silver surfer