Rules
- No telepathy for thanos
- WIn by any means besides BFR
- No prep
- Standard gear
- Fight takes place here:
Who wins and why?
Who wins and why?
@frozen@killemall@monsterstomp I decided to just make the thread.
I'm pretty sure there is a thread for this already, I argued for Captain Atom all day and people just keep linking Infinity Gauntlet, HotU, or Cosmic Cube feats, so annoying.
I'm pretty sure there is a thread for this already, I argued for Captain Atom all day and people just keep linking Infinity Gauntlet, HotU, or Cosmic Cube feats, so annoying.
I couldn't find it on google, and did the other thread disallow Tp
Might wait for Killemall to comment since he's the go-to man on these two characters. Close battle nonetheless.
Thanos wins for sure.
Nobody is winning ''for sure''.
I'm pretty sure there is a thread for this already, I argued for Captain Atom all day and people just keep linking Infinity Gauntlet, HotU, or Cosmic Cube feats, so annoying.
I couldn't find it on google, and did the other thread disallow Tp
Actually it was pre 52 Cap and I was argueing for both pre 52 and new 52. http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/captain-atom-vs-thanos-538652/ and no there weren't rules.
@themagicstik: Pre-New 52 Cap can't win. Darkseid manhandled that version so I do not see why Thanos couldn't.
Might wait for Killemall to comment since he's the go-to man on these two characters. Close battle nonetheless.
@killemall said this in the other thread:
Atom has limited feat and at the moment a vulnerability that Thanos can exploit. Majority would pick Thanos anyways, beyond the telepathic vulnerability, they seem rather pretty close. If Atom is kept in the same power level, few appearances and i wouldn't be surprised people pick Atom over Thanos, the dude is extra-ordinary more powerful than all other DC heroes running around atm.
@jashro44: New 52 Atom manipulated the molecules of the Speed Force and manhandled Flash with that tactic.
I don't know if Thanos can stand up to that...maybe he can, maybe he can't...
I was also thinking of putting him against a morals off pre new 52 Wally...Maybe Wally can finally lose!
@themagicstik: Pre-New 52 Cap can't win. Darkseid manhandled that version so I do not see why Thanos couldn't.
Pre 52 was a massive jobber, kind of like new 52 Kyle Rayner is right now and how new 52 Cap will be if he comes back. Both Pre 52 Cap and New 52 Kyle Rayner have a god like power that pretty much lets them rewrite reality if they want to but they "don't want to be gods" so they have fights with people that are barely planetary where they could be abstracts in their own right.
@jashro44: I guess Atom does lack the quantity of feats at the moment. I really hope someone decides to work on Atom a little more, even though he is pretty damn powerful. Its a hard call, but I might edge it to Atom.
Thanos has durability and power to win this fight. But outmatched in speed & versatility. With Captain Atom's nigh immorality I can see 6-7/10 win. That is until Thanos resurfaces (currently out wreaking planets with Namor).
@jashro44: New 52 Atom manipulated the molecules of the Speed Force and manhandled Flash with that tactic.
I don't know if Thanos can stand up to that...maybe he can, maybe he can't...
I was also thinking of putting him against a morals off pre new 52 Wally...Maybe Wally can finally lose!
I'd still say Cap beats Wally.
@jashro44: New 52 Atom manipulated the molecules of the Speed Force and manhandled Flash with that tactic.
I don't know if Thanos can stand up to that...maybe he can, maybe he can't...
I was also thinking of putting him against a morals off pre new 52 Wally...Maybe Wally can finally lose!
LOL. He manipulated the speed force didn't he? I think he can take Wally on his best bloodlusted day.
@jashro44: New 52 Atom manipulated the molecules of the Speed Force and manhandled Flash with that tactic.
I don't know if Thanos can stand up to that...maybe he can, maybe he can't...
I was also thinking of putting him against a morals off pre new 52 Wally...Maybe Wally can finally lose!
LOL. He manipulated the speed force didn't he? I think he can take Wally on his best bloodlusted day.
He bent space and time on a quantum level and manipulated the molecules of the speed force to control Flash.
@frozen: Same sh*t, different day :)
@frozen: Same sh*t, different day :)
@jashro44: New 52 Atom manipulated the molecules of the Speed Force and manhandled Flash with that tactic.
I don't know if Thanos can stand up to that...maybe he can, maybe he can't...
I was also thinking of putting him against a morals off pre new 52 Wally...Maybe Wally can finally lose!
LOL. He manipulated the speed force didn't he? I think he can take Wally on his best bloodlusted day.
Speed blitz IMP spam maybe? I do recall some comment atom made about him touching Barry before he moved or whatever so that might not work on new 52 atom either...I think Wally loses though to.
@monsterstomp: @frozen: @jashro44: Wally beats Captain Loser!Bwahahahaha!
@monsterstomp: @frozen: @jashro44: Wally beats Captain Loser!Bwahahahaha!
Nope! Captain atom can tag him and none of Wallys hax abilities will work because captain atom can manipulate the speed force!
@jashro44: Wally just overcharges Nathaniel with the speed force till he explodes from the infinite energy given from the speed force!Calculus b!tch!!!
@jashro44: Wally just overcharges Nathaniel with the speed force till he explodes from the infinite energy given from the speed force!Calculus b!tch!!!
He doesn't absorb it, he just manipulates it. So that wont work either! Nice try....He uses the speed force to paralyze Wally!
@Frozen: Yes he does, and Captain Atom, stands as little chance as the Silver Surfer does.
What nonsense.
Explain yourself. Because Captain Atom is far above Silver Surfer. He'd make mince meat out of him.
@jashro44: Wally just overcharges Nathaniel with the speed force till he explodes from the infinite energy given from the speed force!Calculus b!tch!!!
He doesn't absorb it, he just manipulates it. So that wont work either! Nice try....He uses the speed force to paralyze Wally!
You seem very vested in Flash winning Jash :P
@jashro44: He's not absorbing it.Wally is overcharging him!And if Nathaniel paralyzed Wally,Wally lends speed to a wheelchair and burns rubber on Nathan's face,leaving tread marks!
@jashro44: He's not absorbing it.Wally is overcharging him!And if Nathaniel paralyzed Wally,Wally lends speed to a wheelchair and burns rubber on Nathan's face,leaving tread marks!
How does he over charge someone who manipulates the speed force? If captain atom can manipulate the energies of the speed force than couldn't he just like redirect the energy over whatever?
Regardless wally is already paralyzed and vaporized.
@jashro44: Wally just overcharges Nathaniel with the speed force till he explodes from the infinite energy given from the speed force!Calculus b!tch!!!
He doesn't absorb it, he just manipulates it. So that wont work either! Nice try....He uses the speed force to paralyze Wally!
You seem very vested in Flash winning Jash :P
FLASH WILL LOSE!
@jashro44: i know you guys are all just joking, but just in case youre not....he doesnt have reaction feats to suggest He'd react to Wally.
@Frozen: lol.
Silver Surfer can beat Captain Atom, and no way is Captain Atom far above him lol; the only reason Captain Atom is getting way more credit, is due to the fact that not everyone knows Surfers long list of feats, from however long ago. However Captain Atom, being very mew, and most of his limited feats well known, gets more light.
Nothing suggest he is away above him, or even above him at all.
Either way he is still not beating Thanos.
@jashro44: i know you guys are all just joking, but just in case youre not....he doesnt have reaction feats to suggest He'd react to Wally.
He doesn't need them. He can bend space and time at a quantum level. That's why speed was inconsequential against him.
@jashro44: Like IIRC he did to Savitar.He overloaded him with the infinite energies of the speed force and took him out that way.And if we go by fastest feats,Wally is in the zeptosecond range so Nathaniel would be hard pressed to tag him.
@jashro44: i know you guys are all just joking, but just in case youre not....he doesnt have reaction feats to suggest He'd react to Wally.
He doesn't need them. He can bend space and time at a quantum level. That's why speed was inconsequential against him.
nonsense. Yes can bend space. But he has to think to do it. He has no reaction feats to suggest he can react to wally.
@bluebeetle1: @frozen: @reaverlation: I'm just going to make another thread and we can carry the discussion over there.
@bluebeetle1: @frozen: @reaverlation: I'm just going to make another thread and we can carry the discussion over there.
ok
@jashro44: If you want.I'm already leaning towards Nathaniel anyways.Don't know why I was arguing Wally winning =P
@bluebeetle1: It's not nonsense. It's substantiated in his Futures End appearance. The reason he caught Barry had nothing to do with reactions, he's beyond that. It was because he bent space and time on a quantum level: thus we see him grab Barry and say ''my hand grasps you before you even begin to move'' and ''I can constantly manipulate the molecules that make up your speed force --- paralyzing you''.
The speed force is the momentum behind Wally's overpowered feats.
No doubt, Captain Atom is faster than Thanos.
However, Captain Atom doesn't bring enough fire power to put the Mad Titan down.
Hopefully, it is a foregone conclusion around here that Thanos' level of durability is of the highest order. Given that Thanos endures planets and stars exploding with nary a scratch, endures energy shots from Odin and post retconn Beyonder what is Nathaniel going to do to Thanos?
Notice above, Atom can even manipulate the speed force.
He one shots Mongul. Then he shows his immense superiority in speed to Barry Allan. Yet, the third scan shows his best shot is enough to destroy the planet they're on. However, the same scan makes it clear he can't endure planetary level explosions and that significant time would pass before his atoms reassimilate.
I suppose one could call it a stalemate. Provided Atom utilizes his immense speed advantage at all times during the fight, he should always be able to stay away from Thanos and use ranged strikes. On the other hand, Thanos' durability puts him beyond Cap't ability to do any lasting harm to.
Stalemate.
I would believe that Thanos could win with telepathy, but that most likely wouldn't be his first option.
I would believe that Thanos could win with telepathy, but that most likely wouldn't be his first option.
Telepathy is disabled here.
It's a decent battle. Thanos, as a mad scientist and all that, probably knows a lot more about quantum physics than Atom himself, but I don't think countering someone who manipulates it is something Thanos always carries around... mostly because he tends to butt heads with people carrying around the wishing gimmicks of Power Cosmic.
Actually that isn't what he is saying. He is saying that if he blows himself up, then the planet they are on will be destroyed as a side effect.
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