Captain America (Steve Rogers) vs Terminator (T-850)

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#1  Edited By DeathsHead2

"What If?" 
 
What if Obama's words to Cap about "greater things in store for him" meant that Cap was gonna run for President in the near future, and win by a landslide.  Skynet decides to send a peak "Arnold" version Terminator (T-850) back to the present to TERMINATE Cap before he can run for President, and bring stability to America once again. 
 
Setting: 
   NYC streets, at night, with civilians present. 
 
Rules: 
   Cap has his suit on under a trench coat, ala Kyle Reese, with his Shield under the trench at the start of the confrontation. 
   T-850 is attacking head on, with a 10 gauge pump action shot gun (00 Titanium buckshot) and a Titanium Bowie Knife. 
 
  
Does Cap survive to be President?  Or is Cap TERMINATED? 
 
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Captain America wins.

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#3  Edited By King_Saturn
Captain America should be able to at least drop the T-850... the problem is what happens if the T-850's Nuclear Core destructs... ( as shown in the Terminator 3 film )
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#4  Edited By karrob
@King Saturn said:
" Captain America should be able to at least drop the T-850... the problem is what happens if the T-850's Nuclear Core destructs... ( as shown in the Terminator 3 film ) "
Yep!
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#5  Edited By DeathsHead2
@King Saturn: 
 
Perhaps, but not likely.  It's not like every time a T-850 goes down... BOOM! 
  
 
Personally, I think this can go either way.  I would be routing for Cap though.
 
; ) 
 
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Cap can win. He's faster and more agile than than the Terminator, and far more skilled, he can defeat the Terminator with the help of Shield, he could most likley throw his Shield at Terminator.

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#7  Edited By Hellos
@comicdude23 said:
"Captain America wins. "

Not only that he stomps. His shield is going to cut through a t-850 like butter, while Arnold won't be able to tag Cap period.
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@Hellos said:
"@comicdude23 said:
"Captain America wins. "
Not only that he stomps. His shield is going to cut through a t-850 like butter, while Arnold won't be able to tag Cap period. "

Yep, Arnold was very slow.
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#9  Edited By DeathsHead2
@comicdude23: 
 
But... 
 
Terminator's stronger, has enhanced senses/sensors, targeting and target tracking abilities with probability spectrum, ect. 
 
Cap also is initially engaged with the Shield strapped to his back, under the trench coat, and has maybe 2 seconds of awareness that he's being "targeted" for Termination.
 
I'm still split 5/10 either way on this senerio. 
 
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Not to mention that the T-850, has insane regeneration.

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@DeathsHead2 said:
"@comicdude23:  But...  Terminator's stronger, has enhanced senses/sensors, targeting and target tracking abilities with probability spectrum, ect.  Cap also is initially engaged with the Shield strapped to his back, under the trench coat, and has maybe 2 seconds of awareness that he's being "targeted" for Termination. I'm still split 5/10 either way on this senerio.   "

Yes, but Terminator is slow
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#12  Edited By DeathsHead2
@comicdude23: 
 
A Terminator can move fast when he wants/needs to.  See "Terminator 3" movie for details.  That Terminator is a T-850 also.  T-850's are up-graded T-800's... faster, stronger, better! 
 
; ) 
 
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#13  Edited By _Wildcard_

cap beats the terminator to death with the shield. caps shield has blocked blows from the hulk no problem. that or cap keeps fighting and dodging until it's determined he can't take the T-850 down and so he calls tony to come deal with it. so either cap wins or draw. i can't see arnie winning this.

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@DeathsHead2 said:
"@comicdude23:  A Terminator can move fast when he wants/needs to.  See "Terminator 3" movie for details.  That Terminator is a T-850 also.  T-850's are up-graded T-800's... faster, stronger, better!  ; )   "

When did the Terminator EVER show speed?
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#15  Edited By DeathsHead2
@_Wildcard_: 
 
NO outside help here.  But, in a comic, I could see Cap making a call or two for help, "IF" he needs it. 
 
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#16  Edited By Achilles.

A frikkin girl with no fighting skill whatsoever outsmarted the Ah-nold. Cap stomp.

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#17  Edited By Achilles.
@comicdude23 said:
" @DeathsHead2 said:
"@comicdude23:  A Terminator can move fast when he wants/needs to.  See "Terminator 3" movie for details.  That Terminator is a T-850 also.  T-850's are up-graded T-800's... faster, stronger, better!  ; )   "
When did the Terminator EVER show speed? "
Maybe he was talking about the TX...
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@DeathsHead2 said:
"@_Wildcard_:  NO outside help here.  But, in a comic, I could see Cap making a call or two for help, "IF" he needs it.   "

He doesn't need help, Cap will stomp the Terminator on his own
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I don't think people are giving the T-850 enough credit for versatility and resourcefulness. They are just basing it off of the first terminator film, when he acted like little more than an automaton with weapons. Terminator 2 and 3 proves that T-850 can be very resilient, and tactful. Terminator 3 was a true testiment to their extreme level of durability and speed. The T-850 and the T-X tore through a bathroom like paper with no signs of slowing down. I don't believe this is a stomp.

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@deathshead2: The Terminator strAight f**ks Captain America up

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Captain America wins. Vibranium cuts steel.

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#22  Edited By MrUnsmiley

As soon as Terminator gets disarmed, it's a wash.

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Terminator

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I feel like the Terminator is being underestimated. The only thing Cap has that can damage the Terminator is his shield, and I'm sure Arnold can figure this out. He's certainly durable enough to take quite a few hits from the shield at least, and once he realizes how dangerous it is, he'll aim to disarm Steve first, either by dodging the shield or knocking it away. He'll certainly have difficulty, but I have trouble seeing the T-850 losing this.

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@snakeeyes4597: Caps shield has destroyed Iron Mans armor, snapped Ultrons neck, hurt Onslaught.

if Cap finds out hes a machine, its done game over

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#26  Edited By never give up

@snakeeyes4597: Caps shield has destroyed Iron Mans armor, snapped Ultrons neck, hurt Onslaught.

if Cap finds out hes a machine, its done game over

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@warlockmage: Well, then. I was unaware of this. Unless T-850 can get the jump on him early on, I suppose Cap could take this. I'm still somewhat torn.

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Some people feel like Wonder Woman doesn't stand a chance and then some feel Steve Rogers do. The Battle forums is a confusing place.

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steal Ultron would smoke the terminator, and Cap was doing a fair job against him.

Terminator is way way way slower and less skilled than Steal Ultron. Cap's shield also embedded itself in steal ultron, so cap's shield should be able to damage the terminator.

Seems to me that terminators are better than ultron bots (by a fair margin), but one still couldn't take out Cap.

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