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Thanks for checking out the latest edition of this week's Best Battles in New Comics! If you're knew to the weekly segment, all you need to know is this is the spot where we celebrate some of the best action scenes from the latest round of new comics. We don't mean to brag, but you've picked a pretty great week to visit the segment! First up, we have the closest thing you'll get to seeing a modern fight between Marvel's heroes and the Justice League. After that, you'll visit Invincible's universe for a big dose of chaos. Last and most definitely not least, you'll observe two fan favorite characters from Marvel engaging in a fun yet violent fight.

If you're not a fan of the ones we picked, we encourage you to praise the one you have in mind instead of simply posting something like, "why isn't ___ in here?" It just may motivate someone to check out the comic, after all. Also, we have a discussion thread for this segment and check it frequently on Wednesdays and Thursdays. So if there's a fight you like in a new comic, be sure to recommend it in that thread before we write the feature!

*This contains a few INVINCIBLE spoilers!*

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NEW AVENGERS #20

An epic battle between the Illuminati and the Great Society has been building for quite some time, and with the latest chapter, writer Jonathan Hickman and artist Valerio Schiti finally deliver a fight. And yes, it's every bit as glorious as you'd want it to be! Reed Richards and Beast are taken out off panel (way to represent for team 616, chumps), but several other match-ups are still underway and Hickman chimes in on all of them. The Rider, who's essentially Batman's analogue, dukes it out with Black Panther. It's basically a stalemate as these two avoid melee attacks and projectiles. It's a blast watching these two skilled and tech heavy characters go at it and really makes you wonder what would happen if T'Challa and the true Dark Knight really were at odds. Anyway, here's a glimpse of their awesome skirmish.

Do you think Batman vs. T'Challa would be this even?
Do you think Batman vs. T'Challa would be this even?

Really cool, right? That's a terrific street level fight, but when we're talking about teams this diverse, that means we're also going to be treated to a slugfest between two powerhouses. It's time for Hulk vs. the Sun God. Guess which DC Justice Leaguer he's an analogue of? No, not Lex Luthor! Come on, it's Superman! The Man of Steel vs. Hulk is a heated debate which still goes on to this very day. In this issue, the two heroes have a mighty clash, but eventually Hulk begins to do what he does best.

More like the most arrogant one there is.
More like the most arrogant one there is.

Is that enough to keep the Sun God down for the count? Let's just say Hickman does indeed pick a winner and we won't spoil the answer in here. While many of these fights are balanced (Namor and their version of Martian Manhunter, the Jovian, are locked in a stalemate), one fight isn't very fair at all: Iron Man vs. The Great Society's Flash analogue, Boundless. It isn't Tony's finest hour.

A taste of what Flash vs. Iron Man could be like.
A taste of what Flash vs. Iron Man could be like.

In case you're wondering, Black Bolt followed Doctor Spectrum and they're now both off-world, but we haven't even shown you the main event: Doctor Strange vs. Doctor Fate's analogue, The Norn! The other fights are entertaining, but this one's the game changer. You won't want to miss how this fight unravels and the cliffhanger it leaves us on.

INVINCIBLE #112

There was a spoiler alert in the intro, but just in case you glossed over it, here's another warning: THAR BE SOME INVINCIBLE SPOILERS IN HERE! We don't give away all of the details or the ending, but if you haven't read the latest issue or if you're trade waiting, we recommend scrolling to the next highlight. Can't say we didn't warn you.

After spending an absurd amount of time in the Flaxans' dimension, Robot has returned with one simple mission: to rule the Earth. He believes that if he has total control of the planet, he can make it a better place for everyone. Unless he thinks you'd disagree with the plan, that is. If so, he's going to kill you. You know, for the greater good and all that. Robot already attacked Invincible and Eve, and now the character is setting his sights on various members of the Guardians of the Globe. Remember, we told you there's some spoilers in here. In order to highlight all of the madness, there's no good way to avoid some of them. But don't worry, there's plenty we're not showing you.

Sadly, this isn't a trick by Loki. That hand is gone for real.
Sadly, this isn't a trick by Loki. That hand is gone for real.

Try to find it in your heart to forgive the upcoming pun, but artist Ryan Ottley, inker Cliff Rathburn and colorist John Rauch did a killer job with these pages. Robot's projectiles make the violence less bloody but that doesn't mean they're any less horrific. Much of the issue is Robot going around and killing any hero that's likely to stand against the grand plan, so obviously, that means there's a lot of murder going on. Considering they do such a great job with the character's expressions, it makes some of these deaths pretty tough to observe.

Ryan Ottley sure knows how to dish out impactful violence. Yeesh.
Ryan Ottley sure knows how to dish out impactful violence. Yeesh.

This issue isn't limited to just one violent encounter, of course. Robot also assaults the Pentagon. Outnumbered and facing increasingly difficult odds, Robot eventually unleashes a secret weapon to even the odds. And by "even the odds" we mean "make the fight totally unfair" and you need to read the issue to see the full impact of what happens. We won't show you how it concludes, but here's an epic punch from the scene. You can't have an edition of Best Battles in New Comics without a good serving of those, after all.

A punch that's worthy of its onomatopoeia.
A punch that's worthy of its onomatopoeia.

INVINCIBLE continues to shock and we haven't even scratched the surface of what goes down in this bloody issue. How does Monster Girl react? What happens at the Pentagon? Does anyone survive the attacks by Robot? Go read the issue for all of the details!

DEADPOOL VS. CARNAGE #4

Cullen Bunn and Salva Espin's crazy limited series comes to an end! As expected, it wraps up with a big ol' brawl between the Merc with a Mouth and Carnage. You didn't expect anything else from a book called "DEADPOOL VS. CARNAGE" did you?! If you've been following along, then you know Wade Wilson has found a way to even the odds in this finale: he's wearing several symbiotes. As talented as Deadpool may be, there's just no denying Carnage has a large physical edge. However, these symbiotes give him a new set of abilities and he takes full advantage of them during his initial assault against the infamous Spider-Man villain. It's a pretty cool display, but after humiliating Cletus Kasady a little bit, it's back to the basics for Wade... and for him, that often means filling his enemies with a lot of lead. Well, the somewhat upgraded basics thanks to those tendrils!

Who else really wanted Deadpool to scream
Who else really wanted Deadpool to scream "get over here"?

Bunn and Espin never lose sight of this limited series' primary goal: to keep things fun! Even though this is a bloody showdown between two lethal and dark characters, artist Epsin and colorist Veronica Gandini transform the gruesome encounter into something that has an almost cartoon-ish and comedic experience. They pummel and dismember one another, but instead of feeling shockingly graphic, it constantly reminds us that these are two characters that can take it and almost seem to relish the fight.

So much wonderful mayhem.
So much wonderful mayhem.

The fact these two can take so much damage plays perfectly into the tone Bunn creates for this limited series, too. He can have these two slaughter one another all day long, and at the end of it, they could still grab a cup of coffee and talk about how much they hate Spider-Man. Okay, the latter is very unlikely, but the point still remains. Deadpool's accelerated healing factor means he can take a huge amount of punishment (and not to mention stabs from a symbiote), and, thanks to his red symbiote, Carnage is a dude that's incredibly tough to keep down. That means this book can take hilarious yet savage turns and keep on going. Here's a prime example of that.

Bet you didn't think someone would get stabbed in the face with intestines, did you?
Bet you didn't think someone would get stabbed in the face with intestines, did you?

We all had our theories on how Bunn would wrap this up, but we can almost guarantee that none of you will see the ending coming. Overall, DEADPOOL VS. CARNAGE is basically everything you'd expect it to be If non-stop comedy and these two fighting over and over again sounds like a good time to you, then you should obviously check it out! The limited series may be over, but it's looking like it won't be the last time we see these two in the same story. Promotion art seems to imply both of these characters will be in Marvel's upcoming event, Axis.

Honorable Mentions

  • SUPERMAN #32
  • LARFLEEZE #12
  • DEADLY CLASS #6
  • AQUAMAN #32
  • ALL-NEW GHOST RIDER #4
  • AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #3
  • RED LANTERNS #32
  • NEW AVENGERS ANNUAL #1
  • X-O MANOWAR #26
  • ORIGINAL SIN: HULK VS. IRON MAN #1
  • C.O.W.L. #2
  • SHADOWMAN: END TIMES #3

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What are your top three fights from this latest round of new comics? Also, don't forget to make nominations every week in the official thread or tell us via Twitter. See you next Friday and have a good weekend!

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Cool

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MMMeh.

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That Invincible issue is crazy! I don't know how much more Kirkman and Ottley can ramp this up? Who's gonna be left?

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The Illuminati vs "JLA" fight was so cool. I'm waiting to see Black Bolt vs Doctor Spectrum/Green Lantern

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Current T'chall blows normal humans to bits with a single Punch. before his upgrade from the panther god yes it would be an even fight. Now Gods no!

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I like the old fight image better..

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Seems even Marvel think the Justice League would take the Avengers in a fight. Kinda ironic in all honesty heh :P

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They made Stark look stupid. Again. Why you Bastards!!? Why?!

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This was awesome

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New Avengers fight was amazing.

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@lvenger: I don't read this series. Can u "spoil" it for me

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honestly hulk could survive the sun god heat vision.

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Wow this means since Hulk can withstand Superman's heat vision this mean Sun god is way more powerful. kinda ironic in all honesty heh :p

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That Invincable issue.... ;_;

*Sits in fetal position rocking back and forth in a corner*

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WTH? Of course the justice league wrecks the avengers. how is this even a question?

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#16  Edited By Maddpanda531

I prefer the older "FIGHT!" image

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@lvenger: I don't read this series. Can u "spoil" it for me

"Reed and Hank are immediately taken out. T'Challa fights Wayne and are stalemating until Hulk and Sun God interrupt them. Hulk pounds on Sun God claiming he's the strongest one there is until Sun God catches his punch and one shots him with a blast of energy. Iron Man suit is taken apart by Boundless

Strange seems to be loosing to The Norn until he taps into an amp and takes away all his baubles and proceeds to to take on the Great Society by himself."

A summary given to me by someone else who had read the issue. There's also the link to this thread which has the scans of Black Panther vs The Knight and Sun God vs Hulk.

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@lvenger: damn dude. I'm surprise by the outcome. Thanks

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@holyserpent: Me too, not even I would say that Superman can one shot Hulk in the slightest. Strange writing from Hickman that the Superman analogue on The Great Society can one shot Savage Hulk.

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#20  Edited By ReverendHunt

I seem to be in the minority, but I like the new TMNT fight image.

What's up with Hulk there? Is that 616 Hulk or Marvel vs. Capcom/Age of Apocalypse Orange Hulk?

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So two Batman analogues fighting each other... Epic!

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#22  Edited By Twix_Right_Side

@omnicrono said:

So two Batman analogues fighting each other... Epic!

T'challa isn't a Batman analogue anymore than Captain America is a Wonder Woman analogue :p

@demonknights said:

WTH? Of course the justice league wrecks the avengers. how is this even a question?

HAHAHAHAAHAHA-no.

It says a lot that you think that it's really one-sided. It's just as one-sided as who would win between Thor and Hulk,and Hulk and Superman,etc.

@oscars94 said:

New Avengers fight was amazing.

Agreed.

Of course,now I'm gonna wait for the DC zealots (like the Batman fanboys and Superman fanboys) to use this in their arguments. That BP vs Rider fight had some PIS in it (T'challa's blade should have not been broken since it literally cuts through metal with ease).

@youmessinwithme said:

Current T'chall blows normal humans to bits with a single Punch. before his upgrade from the panther god yes it would be an even fight. Now Gods no!

Even the past version was stronger than other peak humans (stopping charged Rhino's,destroying water towers by flexing,etc)

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@lvenger said:

@holyserpent: Me too, not even I would say that Superman can one shot Hulk in the slightest. Strange writing from Hickman that the Superman analogue on The Great Society can one shot Savage Hulk.

Stilll i heard Strange came and smack down the whole team

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The new "Fight" pic is okay

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@omnicrono said:

So two Batman analogues fighting each other... Epic!

T'challa isn't a Batman analogue anymore than Captain America is a Wonder Woman analogue :p

@demonknights said:

WTH? Of course the justice league wrecks the avengers. how is this even a question?

HAHAHAHAAHAHA-no.

It says a lot that you think that it's really one-sided. It's just as one-sided as who would win between Thor and Hulk,and Hulk and Superman,etc.

@oscars94 said:

New Avengers fight was amazing.

Agreed.

Of course,now I'm gonna wait for the DC zealots (like the Batman fanboys and Superman fanboys) to use this in their arguments. That BP vs Rider fight had some PIS in it (T'challa's blade should have not been broken since it literally cuts through metal with ease).

@youmessinwithme said:

Current T'chall blows normal humans to bits with a single Punch. before his upgrade from the panther god yes it would be an even fight. Now Gods no!

Even the past version was stronger than other peak humans (stopping charged Rhino's,destroying water towers by flexing,etc)

Actually the justice league should win with little difficulty if were talking about the traditional avengers line-up. thor, hulk and iron man against Superman, Wonder woman, Green Lantern, Flash, and Aqua-man (yes Aquaman is a power house). the rest from either team are street level non-factors

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Yea. Of course justice league wrecks the avengers. This isn't new info. It would take the toughest of avengers just to simply take down the regular 7 leaguers. But then we'd simply upgrade the league and then they again stop the avengers. I've never seen anyone dispute this....pretty weird.

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@twix_right_side said:

@omnicrono said:

So two Batman analogues fighting each other... Epic!

T'challa isn't a Batman analogue anymore than Captain America is a Wonder Woman analogue :p

@demonknights said:

WTH? Of course the justice league wrecks the avengers. how is this even a question?

HAHAHAHAAHAHA-no.

It says a lot that you think that it's really one-sided. It's just as one-sided as who would win between Thor and Hulk,and Hulk and Superman,etc.

@oscars94 said:

New Avengers fight was amazing.

Agreed.

Of course,now I'm gonna wait for the DC zealots (like the Batman fanboys and Superman fanboys) to use this in their arguments. That BP vs Rider fight had some PIS in it (T'challa's blade should have not been broken since it literally cuts through metal with ease).

@youmessinwithme said:

Current T'chall blows normal humans to bits with a single Punch. before his upgrade from the panther god yes it would be an even fight. Now Gods no!

Even the past version was stronger than other peak humans (stopping charged Rhino's,destroying water towers by flexing,etc)

Actually the justice league should win with little difficulty if were talking about the traditional avengers line-up. thor, hulk and iron man against Superman, Wonder woman, Green Lantern, Flash, and Aqua-man (yes Aquaman is a power house). the rest from either team are street level non-factors

Ant-man and Wasp are powerhouses also (and yeah,Aquaman is a powerhouse),but if we're talking about the traditional line-up,then Martian Manhunter can very well solo. To be fair,it depends on the line-up. In some lineups,The Justice League stomps,in some lineups The Avengers stomp,etc. I think that arguments can be made for either side (again,if the lineup is fair)

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Yea. Of course Avengers wrecks the Justice League. This isn't new info. It would take the toughest of Leaguers just to simply take down the regular 6 Avengers . But then we'd simply upgrade the Avengers and then they again stop the League . I've never seen anyone dispute this....pretty weird.

Your comment wreaks of ignorance.

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No, yours does. I'm here. Lets debate this. Shouldnt take long.

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#31  Edited By Twix_Right_Side

@twix_right_side: Actually, he kind of is.

Not really. I mean,sure they share similarities,but calling him an analogue is a bit of an undermine. Of all I've read with him in it,he seems less and less like Batman. Then again,Midnighter also has similarities with Batman and his called "Wildstorm's Batman",but the people that seem to think of him as such aren't that respected on here XD

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#32  Edited By DemonKnights

Did you seriously change the words in my original post cause you were mad? Lmao that's hilariously pathetic. So you think it would take the most powerful of the justice league to beat the regular avengers?? Hahahahahha. Talk about ignorance. Haha. Oh boy

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No, yours does. I'm here. Lets debate this. Shouldnt take long.

You know that there's a reply button?

And your comment....it's literally the most opinionated thing I've read this month. And saying "no,yours does" is a ridiculous rebuttal. It certainly proved me wrong....with all of those facts and knowledge of the characters......

You want to debate here? Are you serious?

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Did you seriously change the words in my original post cause you were mad? Lmao that's hilariously pathetic. So you think it would take the most powerful of the justice league to beat the regular avengers?? Hahahahahha. Talk about ignorance. Haha. Oh boy

Actually,that's not why I did that. It was to show you how hilariously ignorant,onesided,and opinionated remarks like those are,let alone "hilariously pathetic". Clearly,you missed that point,so the ignorance isn't really on my part.

But again,it's odd that you want to debate here. What's next? You wanna talk politics in the Spider-man forums?

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Do it wherever you want. It won't take long. The JL mops the floor with most avengers line up. And then all I have to do is upgrade my JL 7 and they'll again wreck your little group.

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Do it wherever you want. It won't take long. The JL mops the floor with most avengers line up. And then all I have to do is upgrade my JL 7 and they'll again wreck your little group.

sigh

Yup,you'll certainly "wreck my little group" with such a well-thought out,informative,and solid argument like that that shows such knowledge of each of the characters. I'm honestly without words....

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#37  Edited By DemonKnights

I see that youre without words. Are you backing out?

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#38  Edited By Gracetrack

@twix_right_side: Analogue doesn't mean identical. Analogue simply means very similar, even if that is in some ways more than others. Counterpart might be another good way of putting it. They closely resemble each other, particularly when comes to their function within their respective superhero teams.

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@twix_right_side: Analogue doesn't mean identical. Analogue simply means very similar, even if that is in some ways more than others. Counterpart might be another good way of putting it. They closely resemble each other, particularly when it comes to their function within their respective superhero teams.

That makes sense. But still,they certainly have their similarities,but I think that they have far more differences that can't be ignored (not saying that you were doing that).

I see that youre without words. Are you backing out?

My god.....

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#40  Edited By ScrappyDont27

This makes me want to jump onto New Avengers now

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#41  Edited By Twix_Right_Side

@scrappydont27 said:

This makes me want to jump onto New Avengers now

It's REALLY good. However,I am not sure if there's exactly a good starting point in the near future. You should probably get the beginning issues,and some are kinda fillers that you don't really have to get.

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Lol that's what I thought.

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Lol that's what I thought.

I really honestly think that you completely missed the point of everything I typed. It's like you took the conscious effort to block out everything that was a different opinion. I mean,I don't think that I could find an argument any more dense and ignorant,and really? Is this some sort of little competition for you "that's what I thought"?

Sometimes,words can only go so far....

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#44  Edited By DemonKnights

So let's debate. YOU mentioned ME in a comment and said "Hahahahahha no". So back it up. Otherwise Whatre you doing on the battle forums if not to debate after u tell me I'm wrong. So instead of getting flagged for insulting me repeatedly , back it up.

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#45  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@twix_right_side: @demonknights Hey, care to discuss Avengers vs. Justice league without all of the petty remarks? Stick to the facts and leave the personal nonsense out of it. WHY do you think the team should win? Which characters are game changers and who do they counter? All of this can be said without insulting the other person.

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#46  Edited By Gracetrack

@twix_right_side: For sure. They are certainly different in many ways, like their origin, race, culture, motivations, and ultimate goals as superheroes. I'm simply looking at other areas like: their general appearance (dark suits, pointy-eared cowls), general persona (dark, stealthy, no-nonsense), fighting styles (masters of everything), gadgeteering (both in proclivity toward using gadgets, and in that they always seem to have something creative and new up their sleeve, and often simply because plot demands it), intellect (both being incredible geniuses, tacticians, and resourceful planners), wealth (nuff said), physicals (not much to be said here either), and their function within their respective superhero teams (as already stated).

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@K4tzm4n: I'm all for it. That's what I've been asking for since I was laughed at and told I was wrong.

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#48  Edited By Twix_Right_Side

@demonknights said:

So let's debate. YOU mentioned ME in a comment and saying "Hahahahahha no". So back it up. Otherwise Whatre you doing on the battle forums if not to debate after u tell me I'm wrong. So instead of getting flagged for insulting me repeatedly , back it up.

. Why do I think that you are wrong? Well,as I explained above:

  • In no way is it as one-sided as you think
  • It actually depends on the lineup. For example,the original lineup of Avengers can win against the original lineup of Avengers (morals on). In fact,Martian Manhunter can solo. Flash can solo. Different lineups of the Avengers also has characters that can solo (current one with Captain Universe,if she is at full power). Didn't read past Avengers,so I can't speak on some of the other members. Iron Man alone can take out many of the Justice Leaguers simultaneously. Superman can do the same. etc. It depends on the lineup and the conditions.

Lastly,I don't think that you ever explained or proved ANYTHING besides basically saying:

Of course the Justice League stomps the Avengers. I've never seen anyone say otherwise. They win...just because.

Dammit,I'm wrong. This is battles.

Anyway,which lineup?

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@twix_right_side: For sure. They are certainly definitely different in many ways, like their origin, race, culture, motivations, and ultimate goals as superheroes. I'm simply looking at other areas like: their general appearance (dark suits, pointy-eared cowls), general persona (dark, stealthy, no-nonsense), fighting styles (masters of everything), gadgeteering (both in proclivity toward using gadgets, and in that they always seem to have something creative and new up their sleeve, and often simply because plot demands it), intellect (both being incredible geniuses, tacticians, and resourceful planners), wealth (nuff said), physicals (not much to be said here either), and their function within their respective superhero teams (as already stated).

True. But even in some of those other regards,they have differences just as much as they have similarities (general appearance is kinda easy to spot differences),same with the type of gadgets,same with their morals,personalities,etc. T'challa also fights with cat-like agility and whatnot.

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@Twix_right_side: actually it IS the battle forums. Check the bottom where it says comic vine > forums > battles.

're check what I said.

*I said the league Wrecks most avengers lineups and that it would Take an upgraded roster for the avengers to have a Chance.

*Iron man is a joke compared to anyone of the 7 except batman. Stop it. Lol

* lastly you say I didn't prove anything. And I say well no..duh. you didn't ask me anything.