Clears with ease (or stops at Aquaman if I'm underestimating him). Now, I'm not aware on Aquaman's capabilities. However, one thing you need to know about Berserker is that his Noble Phantasm "God Hand" makes him immune to whatever killed him after being revived. Aquaman would have to stack taking Bererker's lives with an incredible attack, or have 12 ways to kill him, and that's assuming he's on Berserker's level at all.
And Berserker was only temporarily stopped by chains that bend space and time to the extent of preventing teleportation, only to break them after being impaled by multiple noble phantasms. Ranks in Fate have a difference in 10 points, each rank difference being drastic. Archer, with D-rank strength could break through a trap of frozen space through sheer power. 2 opponents with B-rank strength can obliterate 100 square meters of asphalt and taken down several warehouses made of iron with just the wind of 30 strikes. Berserker has A++ strength. So, it's a minimum of 100 points to 20 points (Archer) and to 40 points (for B rank), meaning there's at least an 8 ranks worth of difference between Archer and Berserker, and 6 ranks differences between him and B rankers in strength. He's also been stated to be able to take out a mountain in a single hit.
That's just the physical attributes. He's also taken a hit from Excalibur with lives to spare, when it's an A++ NP, when anti army and anti-country NPs are A+.
Does Aquaman have feats to compete with this? If so, please share.
Uhhh... Okay. Whatever any of that means. I know almost nothing about Fates, hence why I said I'm not sure if he could beat Arthur. So all of that point stuff makes literally zero sense. Also...
"Berserker was only temporarily stopped by chains that bend space and time to the extent of preventing teleportation, only to break them after being impaled by multiple noble phantasms."
Can you actually quantify that?
Anyway, Aquaman caught an attack capable of destroying continents, he's managed to tag and send Superman flying with his punches, he's taken hits from Wonder Woman, his trident has been said to pierce almost anything, high caliber bullets bounce off Arthur like nothing, Arthur has out paced a speeding vehicle, he's deflected lasers off his trident, he was dodging laser vision from Black Manta, his current trident can manipulate the elements and it allows him to teleport, and he has a few other impressive showings.
No, but I'd imagine that altering the fabric of space-time makes for a really, really powerful restraint. There's a lot that you can't quantify because it's not like these guys go on weight machines.
Though, with the feats you listed.........yeah, Berserker most likely looses against Aquaman.
Aquaman doesn't have magical energy, he wouldn't be able to hurt Berserker in the first place. You can't kill a ghost by normal means. You can't kill what is already dead. The only thing that can hurt servants are mystical means or magical enhancements.
Aquaman doesn't have magical energy, he wouldn't be able to hurt Berserker in the first place. You can't kill a ghost by normal means. You can't kill what is already dead. The only thing that can hurt servants are mystical means or magical enhancements.
Aquaman doesn't have magical energy, he wouldn't be able to hurt Berserker in the first place. You can't kill a ghost by normal means. You can't kill what is already dead. The only thing that can hurt servants are mystical means or magical enhancements.
UM.....Poseiden's fking magical trident????
Is there any proof or saying that it's magic or mystical? Any scan? Otherwise, it's just your speculation.
Aquaman doesn't have magical energy, he wouldn't be able to hurt Berserker in the first place. You can't kill a ghost by normal means. You can't kill what is already dead. The only thing that can hurt servants are mystical means or magical enhancements.
Aquaman doesn't have magical energy, he wouldn't be able to hurt Berserker in the first place. You can't kill a ghost by normal means. You can't kill what is already dead. The only thing that can hurt servants are mystical means or magical enhancements.
Aquaman doesn't have magical energy, he wouldn't be able to hurt Berserker in the first place. You can't kill a ghost by normal means. You can't kill what is already dead. The only thing that can hurt servants are mystical means or magical enhancements.
UM.....Poseiden's fking magical trident????
Exactly
It's exactly that, speculation.
The hell? How is it speculation?
The mystical Trident Arthur wields was made by the Dead King as stated in Aquaman #22. The very same Trident when wielded by Aquaman has destroyed the magical ice barrier composed of spirits controlled by Graves, even when Superman and Wonder Woman failed in their attempts to shatter it in Justice League #12.
This is not speculation, you just have no idea what you're talking about.
Aquaman doesn't have magical energy, he wouldn't be able to hurt Berserker in the first place. You can't kill a ghost by normal means. You can't kill what is already dead. The only thing that can hurt servants are mystical means or magical enhancements.
UM.....Poseiden's fking magical trident????
Exactly
It's exactly that, speculation.
The hell? How is it speculation?
The mystical Trident Arthur wields was made by the Dead King as stated in Aquaman #22. The very same Trident when wielded by Aquaman has destroyed the magical ice barrier composed of spirits controlled by Graves, even when Superman and Wonder Woman failed in their attempts to shatter it in Justice League #12.
This is not speculation, you just have no idea what you're talking about.
I don't read Aquaman, so when I ask for proof, it's because I don't know too much about certain stupid characters, so you're basically just reiterating obvious points. I guess he could hurt Berserker if that's what you said is true, and there is once again no scan to show off the extend of how Aquaman can kill Berserker in 12 different ways using mystical means after each complete recovery since he would gain immunity after dying from each attack.
The mystical Trident Arthur wields was made by the Dead King as stated in Aquaman #22. The very same Trident when wielded by Aquaman has destroyed the magical ice barrier composed of spirits controlled by Graves, even when Superman and Wonder Woman failed in their attempts to shatter it in Justice League #12.
This is not speculation, you just have no idea what you're talking about.
so when I ask for proof, it's because I don't have know too much about certain stupid characters, so you're basically just reiterate obvious points. I guess he could hurt Berserker if that's what you said is true, and there is once again no scan.
What the holy hell were you thinking saying this nonsense then?
Aquaman doesn't have magical energy, he wouldn't be able to hurt Berserker in the first place. You can't kill a ghost by normal means. You can't kill what is already dead. The only thing that can hurt servants are mystical means or magical enhancements.
Speculation my ass, you're a hypocrite since you were speculating he couldn't
so when I ask for proof, it's because I don't have know too much about certain stupid characters, so you're basically just reiterate obvious points. I guess he could hurt Berserker if that's what you said is true, and there is once again no scan.
What the holy hell were you thinking saying this nonsense then?
Aquaman doesn't have magical energy, he wouldn't be able to hurt Berserker in the first place. You can't kill a ghost by normal means. You can't kill what is already dead. The only thing that can hurt servants are mystical means or magical enhancements.
Speculation my ass, you're a hypocrite since you were speculating he couldn't
The mystical Trident Arthur wields was made by the Dead King as stated in Aquaman #22. The very same Trident when wielded by Aquaman has destroyed the magical ice barrier composed of spirits controlled by Graves, even when Superman and Wonder Woman failed in their attempts to shatter it in Justice League #12.
This is not speculation, you just have no idea what you're talking about.
so when I ask for proof, it's because I don't have know too much about certain stupid characters, so you're basically just reiterate obvious points. I guess he could hurt Berserker if that's what you said is true, and there is once again no scan.
What the holy hell were you thinking saying this nonsense then?
Aquaman doesn't have magical energy, he wouldn't be able to hurt Berserker in the first place. You can't kill a ghost by normal means. You can't kill what is already dead. The only thing that can hurt servants are mystical means or magical enhancements.
Speculation my ass, you're a hypocrite since you were speculating he couldn't
so when I ask for proof, it's because I don't have know too much about certain stupid characters, so you're basically just reiterate obvious points. I guess he could hurt Berserker if that's what you said is true, and there is once again no scan.
What the holy hell were you thinking saying this nonsense then?
Aquaman doesn't have magical energy, he wouldn't be able to hurt Berserker in the first place. You can't kill a ghost by normal means. You can't kill what is already dead. The only thing that can hurt servants are mystical means or magical enhancements.
Speculation my ass, you're a hypocrite since you were speculating he couldn't
Lmao!
Waah, waah, waah.
Someone doesn't know about aquaman.
Waah, waah, waah.
Instead of showing scans and explaining it, you decide to mock them. Ironic avatar, bruh.
Someone doesn't know about aquaman but tried to say some reckless nonsense like he has no magic, his trident being magical is only speculation and lastly saying that the sht he didn't even know about was obvious
Someone doesn't know about aquaman but tried to say some reckless nonsense like he has no magic, his trident being magical is only speculation and lastly saying that the sht he didn't even know about was obvious
Waah, waah, waah.
fixed
Wah wah wah... more crying and childish fixes, wah wah wah.
@poeticwarrior: What exactly do you need? You asked for proof of it being mystical in nature and it was provided to you. Hell, its origin was even mentioned again in Aquaman #24, cited as a "talisman", which by definition is an object with magical properties.
Will Beserker even be able to harm Arthur? You've yet to make a case for your side of the discussion. Arthur in the following issue: Aquaman #25, tanked an attack from the Dead King that packed such force that when previously used, it shattered a continent. Yet Aquaman took such an attack with no damage whatsoever.
How would Berserker even harm him? We haven't even brought up the versatility aspect of Arthur's arsenal
People trying to use the Servants are ghosts logic is the same as using the Bleach shinigami argument for battle threads.
If you aren't going to dismiss that silly little loop hole, there's no point to even having a battle.
Anyway. This is a stalemate at Aquaman. Berserker is far outclassed by the time he gets there. Unfortunately, Aquaman doesn't have 12 different ways to kill Berseker to ultimately put him down. Currently, I'd say at most Aquaman could take away 6-8 ish lives at most. But as I said, Berseker is wholly outclassed otherwise.
@poeticwarrior: What exactly do you need? You asked for it proof of it being mystical in nature and it was provided to you. Hell, it was even mentioned again in Aquaman #24, cited as a talisman, which by definition is an object with magical properties.
Will Beserker even be able to harm Arthur? You've yet to make a case for your side. Arthur in the following issue, Aquaman #25, tanked an attack from the Dead King that packed such force that when previously used, it shattered a continent. Yet Aquaman too such an attack with no damage whatsoever.
How would Berserker even harm him? We haven't even brought up the versatility aspect of Arthur's arsenal
As there is no scan, I have to take your words for it as hypothetical situation for now and say for it can effect Berserker. How could Aquaman kill Berserker 12 distinct different ways since each death will have Berserker revive 100% and the attacks that kill him the first time wouldn't be effective anymore? Like stab him, hit him with lightning? How are 12 different deaths could result from the weapon?
@poeticwarrior: What exactly do you need? You asked for it proof of it being mystical in nature and it was provided to you. Hell, it was even mentioned again in Aquaman #24, cited as a talisman, which by definition is an object with magical properties.
Will Beserker even be able to harm Arthur? You've yet to make a case for your side. Arthur in the following issue, Aquaman #25, tanked an attack from the Dead King that packed such force that when previously used, it shattered a continent. Yet Aquaman too such an attack with no damage whatsoever.
How would Berserker even harm him? We haven't even brought up the versatility aspect of Arthur's arsenal
As there is no scan, I have to take your words for it as hypothetical situation for now and say for it can effect Berserker. How could Aquaman kill Berserker 12 distinct different ways since each death will have Berserker revive 100% and the attacks that kill him the first time wouldn't be effective anymore? Like stab him, hit him with lightning? How are 12 different deaths could result from the weapons?
Admittedly, it did slip my mind that Berserker had to be taken out 12 different ways. Given that the environment was not stated in the battle stipulations, completely determine the outcome whether stalemate due to not fulfilling the 12 distinct death requirement or Arthur doings so, cannot be concluded.
Regardless, one thing we know for sure is that Berserker will have a hard time putting even a scratch on Arthur.
Instead of showing scans and explaining it, you decide to mock them. Ironic avatar, bruh.
No, you decided to make bullsht claims and call a fact speculation when you clearly don't know anything about Aquaman, then you try to defend yourself on this when you know you messed up....that's closer to trolling than anything I'e done here. At best, I've lived up to my Avatar by calling you out and making you look foolish. I don't have to explain a damn thing since you should at least come into a thread knowing what you're talking about, not to mention, what's there to explain? He's got magic, but hey, I'll do you a favor and teach you something....watch and learn......Quoted from @zerosuituser, thank you for posting
Arthur Curry, AKA. "Aquaman!":
BIO:
The son of an Atlantean queen and a lighthouse keeper from the town of Amnesty Bay, Arthur Curry would grow up to become the superhero Aquaman, and later take on his birthright as the King of Atlantis. He is a founding member of the Justice League and is among DC Comics' most recognized heroes. ~Awesomely copied from Comic Vine character page.
Showings:
*Strength*
Aquaman has easily lifted a cruise liner. Your typical cruise liner usually weighs in at 60,000 or more tons.
*Striking power*
Aquaman's strikes are hard enough to send people like Wonder Woman and Superman flying.
He also sent the Dead King flying across Atlantis.
*Durability*
Arthur takes a massive fall after falling out of a plane (and is unharmed).
Arthur takes a punch from Wonder Woman and is only left with a bloody lip.
*Healing factor*
Arthur has been shown healing from wounds almost instantly. Here's an instance where he gets stabbed with a trident and the wound is gone the next panel.
*Speed*
Aquaman has been shown moving at blur speeds.
Aquaman has been shown dodging/blocking lasers on various instances. Here's two of them.
..
*Trident*
Arthur wields an indestructible trident, that was forged by ancient Atlantians. It's been shown piercing the hull of a submarine, a giant monster that withstood gun fire and missiles like nothing, and even Darksied!
It's also important to note that Aquaman can throw his trident with a high amount of force. Here he collapses a large piece of trench by throwing his trident at it.
The rest will be from me, .... Continuing, Aquaman posesses another trident (the Trident of Neptune) that can emit blasts of magical energy in the form of Ice and Lightning.....
Instead of showing scans and explaining it, you decide to mock them. Ironic avatar, bruh.
No, you decided to make bullsht claims and call a fact speculation when you clearly don't know anything about Aquaman, then you try to defend yourself on this when you know you messed up....that's closer to trolling than anything I'e done here. At best, I've lived up to my Avatar by calling you out and making you look foolish. I don't have to explain a damn thing since you should at least come into a thread knowing what you're talking about, not to mention, what's there to explain? He's got magic, but hey, I'll do you a favor and teach you something....watch and learn......Quoted from @zerosuituser, thank you for posting
Arthur Curry, AKA. "Aquaman!":
BIO:
The son of an Atlantean queen and a lighthouse keeper from the town of Amnesty Bay, Arthur Curry would grow up to become the superhero Aquaman, and later take on his birthright as the King of Atlantis. He is a founding member of the Justice League and is among DC Comics' most recognized heroes. ~Awesomely copied from Comic Vine character page.
Showings:
*Strength*
Aquaman has easily lifted a cruise liner. Your typical cruise liner usually weighs in at 60,000 or more tons.
*Striking power*
Aquaman's strikes are hard enough to send people like Wonder Woman and Superman flying.
He also sent the Dead King flying across Atlantis.
*Durability*
Arthur takes a massive fall after falling out of a plane (and is unharmed).
Arthur takes a punch from Wonder Woman and is only left with a bloody lip.
*Healing factor*
Arthur has been shown healing from wounds almost instantly. Here's an instance where he gets stabbed with a trident and the wound is gone the next panel.
*Speed*
Aquaman has been shown moving at blur speeds.
Aquaman has been shown dodging/blocking lasers on various instances. Here's two of them.
..
*Trident*
Arthur wields an indestructible trident, that was forged by ancient Atlantians. It's been shown piercing the hull of a submarine, a giant monster that withstood gun fire and missiles like nothing, and even Darksied!
It's also important to note that Aquaman can throw his trident with a high amount of force. Here he collapses a large piece of trench by throwing his trident at it.
The rest will be from me, .... Continuing, Aquaman posesses another trident (the Trident of Neptune) that can emit blasts of magical energy in the form of Ice and Lightning.....
So class, what did we learn today?
That you're very good at copy and paste, and you obviously didn't read to notice that everyone has moved beyond this point, and it's likely to end in a stalemate due to reasons already been stated.
Pretty sure Aquaman would stomp. The servants have some interesting conceptual weapons but overall they are quite weak. There was a thread earlier where most people agreed EoS Tereaa of the Faint Smile (from Claymore) would solo blitz the Holy Grail War and she's at most an Iron Man-tier character. So someone Herald-tier would easily solo the Holy Grail War much less merely 1 servant.
Pretty sure Aquaman would stomp. The servants have some interesting conceptual weapons but overall they are quite weak. There was a thread earlier where most people agreed EoS Tereaa of the Faint Smile would solo blitz the Fate verse so someone Herald-tier would easily solo the Holy Grail War much less 1 servant.
Ignore the physical damage immunity asides, considering Teresa can only cut people with her attacks, I doubt it would affect Berserker once Berserker revived since the attacks wouldn't be effective again.
@poeticwarrior: Then she can just amp her strength in the next attack. Berserker can increase his durability with each life taken there's no evidence he becomes conceptually immune to the attack type.
That's like saying you take 1 life with a 500lb bomb so even if you hit him with a 100 megaton explosion next he'd tank it because he's now immune to high explosive. That makes no sense and isn't supported by the evidence.
Besides, 1 excaliblast took what, 6 lives off of Berserker? Aquaman would 1 shot all 12 lives.
@poeticwarrior: Then she can just amp here strength in the next attack. Besides, 1 excaliblast took what, 6 lives off of Berserker? Aquaman would 1 shot all 12 lives.
Supposed it worked, then Berserker would revive again and he would even be further be protected against that kind of attack. I doubt the same cutting attacks would work for all 12 lives.
We don't know that, considering how Fate weapons work which some are borderline reality warping like Gae Bolg. Their weapons are more conceptual in nature.
@zerosuituser: Aquaman would have to kill Berserker in 12 different ways in order to win. If Aquaman already killed Berserker with a punch, then he will be immune to said punch if performed again. Sure, Aquaman can contindnr bust, and then what? It only takes away 1 life and Berserker will be immune to said continent bust if he ever does it again.
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