ben 10 vs the living tribunal

lol.. i'm not sure about this.. but before everyone starts shouting how big of a mismatch this is... please read the rules XD

rules:

1. ben will start in alien x form and will have complete control over it, and the omnitrix will not run out of time
2. out of character and morals off
3. it is mandatory to see ben 10 omniverse episode 7 before commenting on this thread
4. fight starts on 616 universe.

So what, are you going to somehow lock people out who haven't watched the episode????

@ssj_god:

Well, Ben as a Celestialsapien defeats another Celestialsapien in combat...so... idk lol

no... lol.. they're gonna shout about how big mismatch this is that's why XD

@legacy6364 said:

@ssj_god:

XD

why? .. what have you seen in that episode?

Yeah. LT is the commander of the marvel continuity... the entire multiverse.
Alien X is pretty powerful but the best he has done by feat is recreate a universe. Thats measly in front of LT I should say.

This is still a horrible mismatch.

what LT has as a multiversal feat?

Living Tribunal easily made the Infinity Gauntlet become useless and Infinity Gauntlet handily beaten Eternity(Eternity is multiverse level)

LT wins.

and dr. doom beat him with prep -_-

come on.. making a device useless doesn't show multiversal feat... if that abc type logics would've granted, then dbz threads wouldn't have been banned from the forum.

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LT? Alien X didn't show anything beyond infinity gauntlet..

Putting everything ben 10 verse showed to date on his side, and he still get lolstomped. Mismatch of epic proportions.

@ssj_god: Yeah it does. The device is on the multiverse level. It was completely useless against the living Tribunal. He stomps Alien X.

@ssj_god: Literally his very essense is the multiverse man...

Eternity in question is a Marvel abstract, a very powerful multiversal being.

@princearagorn1:

i'm still not getting it... how is shutting down a nuke makes me stronger than the nuke?

@ssj_god: That's a false equivalence and you know it. The correct comparison would be you tanked a nuke with absolute and utter ease.

@lowlaville said:

@ssj_god: Literally his very essense is the multiverse man...

Eternity in question is a Marvel abstract, a very powerful multiversal being.

how does this shows multiversal feat?

because in this case the nuke has the power to destroy and create on a multiverse level. the fact that it was shot off is a feat in itself. It shouldn't have been able to shut off in the first place. You would have to read it to see what kind of feat it is I guess, just like people would have had to see that episode

ok.. then i don't know how he 'tanked the nuke' ... please show me...

ohh.. and i don't know how IG is multiversal.... what princearagorn showed seemed universal.

When did Dr.Doom beat Living Tribunal,I recall only Thanos doing so,but Thanos gotten the Heart of the Universe to stomp LT.

ABC logic can work like Superman can lose to Silver Surfer and Silver Surfer was stomped by Odin and Odin can easily beat Superman.

This is a mismatch. x.x

ok.. that's what i basically asked for (i meant few scans of it)

He then proceed to take the gauntlet away from him. Thanos is unable to harm him or affect him with it.

uh. That's just the IG. It's not even close to LT's league.

I actually meant universal, I typed multiversal because i saw someone else type it and it was stuck in my head. there are several Gauntlets in each universe

@ssj_god: because its much more like overpowering a nuke, he didnt sneakily shut off a part of it . He straight up went "this ig sh!ts gettin out of hand , better declare it useless with my near omnipotence" and directly shut off its power , if you dont want to call him shutting it multiversal, the fact it worked on eternity and not him alonee does that.

@ssj_god: Here's something you should know. LT is the one direct link and servent to TOAA, the all powerful god of the entire marvel multiverse. As such, his dominance is without question superior than everyone and everything in marvel but TOAA. LT commands beings much more powerful in regards to what Celestialsapeans can do.

@killemall

so? .. if you have seen the episode i mentioned.. you should know that recreating an universe was also not in alien x's league... he did it with utter ease.. but as he haven't shown any other things.. that's why i asked.

then i don't see why it would be a big mismatch

@w0nd: considering IG users have more than one feat of creating/destroying universes casually, I'd say it's universal+, not universal:

what i know is, pre retcon beyonder is more powerful than him.. so no, LT is not the next big thing after TOAA ... he's the judge of the universe.. not the multiverse... that's what i know.. if someone says otherwise, they better have proof of it.

@w0nd

I actually meant universal, I typed multiversal because i saw someone else type it and it was stuck in my head. there are several Gauntlets in each universe

Just because there are IGs in other universes that doesn't mean the IG is just universe level.There a Eternity in each Marvel Universe,but Dormammu with Eternity power recreated the multiverse,the Celestials race created a multiverse,and yet Eternity and the Celestials all lost to IG Thanos.

Omnipotent>>>>Nigh-Omnipotent. Always has been always will be. Someone who

is omnipotent doesnt need feats.

hmm true, but wouldn't they all conflict with each other, if more then one user was doing something at the same time?

dude.. do you know that alien x species are in control of the multiverse in ben 10 verse? .. i'm not going with hype.. because with hype, alien x is actually omnipotent -_-

Beyonder was, for all purpose and action, above TOAA when he was in effect. Thats why he underwent many retcons. One cannot even count them as been very apart, TOAA and Pre retcon Beyonder.

Beyonder was simply beyond, a dominating factor over external rival companies of marvel. As his story goes, there was nothing beyond Beyonder in all of fiction. lol

hype? All of those are actual feats...

Being in control of the universe doesn't mean anything to eternity. He -is- the universe, and the best he could do against IG was to.. summon living tribunal. Celestials created the multiverse, and they are far below LT as well.

What episode is this from? The one where Ben appears in a court for recreating the universe?

Mere Karan Arjun Aaenge!

LT stomps. For those that don't know which is apparently a lot of people..the LT is the judge of the entire Marvel omniverse and exists everywhere simultaneously. That's power no one in Ben 10 has displayed. Ever.

@racob7 said:

hmm .. you clearly don't know alien x

@lowlaville said:

@ssj_god said:

@lowlaville said:

@ssj_god: Here's something you should know. LT is the one direct link and servent to TOAA, the all powerful god of the entire marvel multiverse. As such, his dominance is without question superior than everyone and everything in marvel but TOAA. LT commands beings much more powerful in regards to what Celestialsapeans can do.

what i know is, pre retcon beyonder is more powerful than him.. so no, LT is not the next big thing after TOAA ... he's the judge of the universe.. not the multiverse... that's what i know.. if someone says otherwise, they better have proof of it.

Beyonder was, for all purpose and action, above TOAA when he was in effect. Thats why he underwent many retcons. One cannot even count them as been very apart, TOAA and Pre retcon Beyonder.

Beyonder was simply beyond, a dominating factor over external rival companies of marvel. As his story goes, there was nothing beyond Beyonder in all of fiction. lol

say what?! o.O nothing is past TOAA

being in control of the multiverse.. not universe... and as i said... alien x has been told omnipotent in the series.. but i didn't wanted to go by hype only.

@ssj_god: My bad, should have written multiverse. And 'called omnipotent'? That puts him equal to odin.

Either way, Alien X doesn't have feats putting him past IG user. LT is way, way above his league.

@saren: Mismatch.

@ssj_god: @princearagorn1: Just something I read. Because Beyonder had the purpose of spearheading Marvel's influence beyond Marvel, hence he was beyond TOAA's influence, beyond-- and thus more powerful.

@rbt Yes.

@w0nd: I think Jonathan Hickman tried to depowered the IG power.

@ssj_god: I haven't seen a omniverses feat from Alien X to be Omnipotent.The Presence created the DC Omniverse and MOM created the Image Omniverse and TOAA is the writer of everything happening in Marvel.If we go by statements,then Living Tribunal,Darkseid,Odin,and other are Omnipotent,because been stated to be Omnipotent.

@saren@god_spawn@jedixman

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