Battle 3 of series: Powerhouses Vs Telepath Powerhouses

My next battle OFF MY Androids, telepaths and powerhouse battles.

All Blood-Lusted

No-Prep

Morals OFF

Fight to the death

They start 1 mile apart

(TP allowed only for knowledge on a character who can be TP'd; not to beat them via it/opponent)

Fight takes place on an indestructible planet where they can go all out

Thanos

+

Superboy Prime(with Armour)

+

(New-52)Darkseid

VS

(Pre-52)Despero

+

(Pre-52)Fenrus

+

Void

@dondave@killemall@hellionvulcan@cheesesticks

@nighthunder@homicidalmaniac@king_stranglehold_da_first

@kidman560@thetruebarryallen@pr0metheus@themagicstik

@the_imperator@themagicstik@comicstooge@ancient_0f_days

@patrat18@zeroplus@darkseid1006@New_World_Order@reaverlation

Team 1

@kingant27: isn't thanos also considered a telepathic powerhouse?

Void is too much.

Telepaths win because of matter manipulation.

Telepaths due to Void

Would Despero be considered the weak link on team 2? I'm not sure if SBP can be TP'd, and it was told Thanos is un-TP-able. Idk about Seid either, but if a speed blitzing prime, and two un-TP-able tyrants are roaming around, can Despero do anything to'em?

Telepaths

@chaos911: Not as powerful as Fernus or Despero

@killemall

Can Thanos die yet?

@dondave: I see

We dont know, but from the looks of it he cant, Thanos Infinity Revelation seem to say so but it takes somewhere in the past so hard to say.

They freaking destroyed, remade, destroyed and merged 2 universe into 616 in 1 story.. not sure how much of that to take seriously.... O_o

@hulkman123: No

@dre_savage: J'onn's telepathy has already worked on SBP.

New 52 Darkseid has no TP Defence

@killemall: @dondave:

This can only end as a stalemate then, we have an immortal on each team; Void and Thanos.

This.

Fight is till death.

Stalemate

Telepaths

Immortality means nothing to one who courts Death herself :p

Thanos was killing people in Cancerverse, who thanks to their version of Death having been killed, were essentially immortal just as well.

When a portion of your power comes from the very embodiment of Death itself, immortality itself becomes a relative concept.

Void however might be too powerful for Thanos to kill though.

Yep, Void seems to be on another level.

Just out of interest who do you think wins out of Fernus and Thanos, and why?

A lot of people are saying Telepaths win, should I change it to Pre-Crises Darkseid; or take away TP from both teams?

To death i cant say but Fernus clearly seems more powerful than Thanos, honestly by good margin, its just being limited in appearances you wont get 100s of different feats like Thanos.

Telepaths

If it makes a difference, I have made it; NO TP for either teams.

....Really?

I agree Fernus is more powerful, but team 2 should win due to New-52 Darkseid being a major weak link.

team one has some tp resistance. team 1 due to powers, tp resistance, and being bloodlusted.

@frozen: Why?

The Telepath team have a lot of rich telepathy feats, I don't see why you'd take that power away.

@frozen: The only real person who are affected arguably is Darkseid and Superboy Prime, taking away TP makes it harder for people to use TP as a reason for winning IMO.

Interesting, I need to read more about Fernus, I always assumed Thanos was just more powerful because of the sort of opponents he's faced and the fact that even they were unable to even KO at any time.

TP is allowed for knowledge on a character now; not for beating someone via it.

@theking47: Thanos is most likely more powerful; Fenrus is basically a blood lusted MMH; and he was very immpresive, however it was PIS how he got defeated by Plastic man.

@killemall:

Can we do ask killemall sessions?

Void vs Fernus

DS Sentry vs Fernus

Thanos vs DS Sentry

Darkseid vs DS Sentry

Wally West vs Fernus

Fernus vs Odin

@kingant27: Fernus seems to be more powerful than Thanos, considerably. Plastic Man gave him trouble, IIRC he didn't actually defeat him.

@frozen: Fenrus is not more powerful than Thanos; it is like comparing a blood lusted MMH to Thanos.

Team 2

LOL, these are after all , all personal opinion, my opinion and not fact.

Its just the Death part that is hard to answer for Thanos, else they have Void on team 2 as a MVP. I dont see how they can deal with him.

Telepaths.

@kingant27: Does Despero have the flame of Py'tar in this battle??

@beatbok1 would it change the outcome; also I have researched various times, but I could find nothing on how big the difference in power levels, or if at all.

Is there a big difference?

I agree that team 2 would win (only due to Void and assuming they can all die and are not immortal, so in reality its a stalemate) but J'onn was only ever able to read SBP's mind he never could actually assault him properly.

When he acquired the Flame he gained energy and matter manipulation powers on a major scale. To the point where he was able to create dragons out of thin air. It also physically amped him ( to his current physical levels of being able to solo a few JLA heavy hitters in a fight and his regeneration). When he lost it he retained the physical upgrade but not IIRC the energy and matter manip. Prior to acquiring it he ONLY had his mental powers.

@beatboks1: So from normal Pre-52 Despero, to Flame of the P'ytiar; how difference do they go from, e.g. MMH level to above.

From above MM level too a decent level reality warper

Actually just pointing out correct me if i'm wrong but Sentry destroyed Void by throwing him into the sun right? So that means that Superboy-Prime could literally just annihilate him with his heat vision?

@darkseid1006: He came back.

Does he go to Thanos level, Odin level etc.

I know but I forgot this was too the death I was thinking that could count as KO but... Stalmate

@darkseid1006: Stalemate between who; the team.

Team 2. Fernus and Void on the same team is scary.

Jmarshmallow

Well Thanos is immortal and so is Void and seeing as its to death I see no way either can win.