Deathstroke absolutely anihilates Batman one on one.
With prep Batman miiiiight have a chance, but that's it.
Deathstroke absolutely anihilates Batman one on one.
With prep Batman miiiiight have a chance, but that's it.
I think the only time that Batman won a fight against DS was in the IC, and DS lost on purpose plus Robin and Nightwing were with Bats
and in the son of batman, beware the batman, several video games, and a couple of comics
Batman has won two times IIRC. One Batman KO'ed Slade with the but of a rifle as Slade had his sword. The second Batman used a surprise attack and kicked Slade out via a suprise kick and tied him up. Other street level characters have done very well but Slade usually gets the advantage on them.
Even in there first fight where Slade won. Slade was hurt very bad afterwards.
and batman has beat slade in every media outside of comics every time
Batman has beaten Deathstroke before and Deathstroke has beaten him before. But here is the thing. People claim the Joker is Batman's true foe. Yet Deathstroke has shown he has the fighting ability and speed and strength to match Batman ever step of the way. Slade is enhanced and he in my view is the toughest foe Batman has faced.
I didn't want to make a new topic on this so I hope no one minds that I bump it.
I think it's pretty well established that Batman loses without prep or gadgets.
But what if the battle was like this
Batman gets prep time, can use gadgets and is at his peak/best version
Death Stroke gets prep and is at his peak/best version
Who would win? I don't know much about Death Stroke, but I'm slowly learning more and more about him, and I'm curious if death Stroke could beat Batman with these conditions, as not many people can.
every fight they had one on one slade has won except 2 so that would indicate slade winning but batman has as good or better feats against the rest of the dc universe.
@comic_book_fan: By everytime you mean 4 times, by except 2 times you mean the two times he didn't.
@dc_marvel_1000: Well This Could Go Either Way
Deathstroke is lot more than what batman is capable of dealing with. There was a discussion thread pretty much cementing this on general discussion iirc.
Deathstroke would win hands down if it ever came to a straight fight between them, without the interruption of other DC characters. He is just as skilled in martial arts, tactics and battle as Batman but isn't restrained by the Dark Knights reluctance to inflict mortal injury. Therefore, Batman would hold back through a psychological predisposition of not wanting to kill Slade whereas Slade would just want to end the fight as efficiently (and with Batmans rep, probably deadly to make sure) and quickly as possible.
If Batman put his no-kill attitude aside however, it could go either way. It'd be like two master Samurais fighting, the first to make a mistake, dies.
@dc_marvel_1000: @dc_marvel_1000: Slade beat him once when they first met and they were pretty even mostly. All the other times Batman fought him, he flat out cooked slade. Read Deathstroke #5 to see what I mean it is a perfect example. Slide got his ass kicked despite "fighting dirty" and he even admitted later to Harley that if batman wanted, he coulda killed him anytime he wanted.
@red_blade: Deathstroke #5, slade got beat up badly and he admitted if batman wanted he coulda killed him at any moment
@red_blade: Deathstroke #5, slade got beat up badly and he admitted if batman wanted he coulda killed him at any moment
Your forgetting the part where Slade was weakened, not thinking as clearly, slower, and was thrown off his game as a result of having 2 eyes. Your also forgetting how Slade said he would normally end Bruce in two-three moves.
@drache64: @drache64: @dane: @darktiger: @cable_extreme: @jay_z94: @Pokeysteve: @lone_wolf_and_cub: @dead_god: @jay_z94: @stmichalofwilson: @jashro44: @undergroundgod: @cosmicspiral: @the_mjolnir_wielder: @vuviper: @red_blade: @vuviper: @dc_marvel_1000: @ssg335: TBH I don't know if you all are deliberately downplaying batman, making up facts, misinformed, or if you genuinely don't know the updated feats of the dark knight. It seems like threads about bats, are all either retarded fanboys or haters(mainly fanboys) but rarely objective debates. Batman is faaaaarrr from invincible without and with prep. But, in this case, other than two times, slade himself admits he not trying to mess with the batman. Besides all the times batman snuck up on slade, the times he had help, and the times where batman simply escaped after ending the fight in a draw, they only truly fought 5 times and Slade only won the first encounter although he took a beating(granted batman got fucked up more). ALSO, THERE IS THE One where deathstroke was depowered to normal human levels(batman whooped his ass easily). However, I don't get why people don't ever mention the first suicide squad story arc in the new 52 or Deathstroke #5. In Deathstroke #5 Deathstroke was manipulated by Harley to fight Batman. Slade got his ass kicked like I mean it was bad for him(sure he got some good hits but nobody in their right mind would say slade even came close to winning). Slade in his own words "fought dirty" and still got beat up, he tried ending the fight quickly(according to slade a millisecond of a mistake is enough for batman to basically make you his bitch) still got beat up, he tried taking advantage of the fact that batman holds back and won't kill, still gets majorly fucked up, he hit batman with a giant piece of debris weighing over 7 tons and assumed he could take batman down with 3 hits, you guessed it the plan backfired, after that batman took slade to school, punching him through walls and floors, ripping open his promethium armor(sorry if I spelled incorrectly), and Deathstroke narrated that he was "outfought, outmatched, outclassed", the fight ended when Harley blew up the place they were fighting in. After the fight ended, Slade admitted that if batman wanted he could've killed him easily anytime he wanted especially towards the end. in the suicide squad story, batman beat up the whole crew(consisting of Harley, headshot, black spider, killer frost, captain boomerang, king shark, and death stroke as a freelancer) batman easily owned the whole team until he came to Deathstroke(especially headshot and black spider they literally did nothing vs bruce). Slade did really good but he admitted that batman outclassed him heavily and slade got bet up to the point that had to get a new eye after the fight(remember he had a new body at that point).keep in mind slade got stronger/faster in the new 52. also before the new 52, after slade got caught lacking by bats, during teen titans vol 2(sorry forgot the exact issue I BELIVE IT WAS #34), slade got badly beaten by batman and was captured by argus. Slade later talked about how batman even by superhuman standards and with holding back could attack with implausible potency due to a combination of insane strength, speed, and technique. makes sense, slade may be superhuman but batman ain't no slouch. DC'S OFFICAL CLASSIFICATION of batman is he represents the pinnacle of human physical potential and he is physically perfect as a human can be(he is officially described as being vastly stronger, faster, more agile, better conditioned, and posses better reflexes and durability than even the finest non meta human athletes the world has ever known). Also go to these links, they show some of batman's physical feats there is something fishy going on DC says he ain't superhuman but dude can do some shit that would make you think he is on par with or superior to Slade(he isn't on par or superior than slade but he ain't too far behind either)I mean the dude can lifts several tons, kick trees in half easily, karate chop cars, and motorcycles, rip steel reinforced doors down easily or kick/punch them down in one strike, snap steel like tissue, almost shatter a glass wall perfectly built to withstand an ICBM strike while very weakened, break an even more enhanced killer croc's jaw with one punch even after impaling himself, run/move and attack faster than enhanced humans can see, can run a lot faster than freeway traffic, can dodge machine gun bullets from multiple enemies at point blank range, can dodge bullets with his back turned and then disarm, the shooter, can cut headshot's guns in half with gauntlets without him noticing, stole GL's ring without him noticing, can swap out a poisoned drink and take down a disguised Falcone thug in a room falloff hundreds of pple faster than the blink of n eye, can dodge omega beam, fight for several days and even one week continuously, take what should be fatal physical punishments yet he still gets up and kicks ass, etc, http://batmanfeats.blogspot.com/p/powerstrength.html, http://batmanfeats.blogspot.com/p/endurance.html, http://batmanfeats.blogspot.com/p/agilityspeed.html, (storylines that really focus on showing batman's physical prowess are Son of the Demon, Justice League War, Justice League Throne of Atlantis, Under the red hood, batman hush, batman eternal, batman #0, Batman RIP, Justice League Darkseid Wars, Batman Endgame, Batman Death in the Family, Dark Knights Metal(not as nearly as much), JLA VS JL, Brave New Day, Tower of Babel, New Teen Titans, Detective Comics #446-870, Batman Year One, even knightfall or any batman comic ever but these should give you an idea). also, batman has mastered every form of combat ever created by mankind (he uses 127 as his main style of combat since they can severely incapacitate opponents but they aren't fatal). Also the dude has fucked up Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Flash, and Reverse Flash in h2h combat MULTIPLE TIMES. Go to this thread and scroll down to see what I'm saying(you will see scans of batman whoopin they ass). https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/batman-286/batman-is-perfection-1659667/. ALSO, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS PRIOR TO DC REBIRTH WHERE BATMAN GOT A PRETTY SIZABLE POWER BOOST. Thanks for reading.
It’s inconsistent. They’ve each either beaten each other soundly, curbstomped each other or stalemated.
You put them on a level playing field (As in give Batman equal stats), fight will be pretty one sided IMO. OT, it goes back and forth between them. Occasionally Batman wins, occasionally Deathstroke wins.
Slade stomps if it's Pre 52.
He beat him twice in Tec #710
Once in Deathstroke #7
Batman won once in IC due to assistance.
Bruce won once in Tec #710 due to a surprise attack.
In New 52/Rebirth it's closer.
Slade stalemated Bruce whilst depowered in Deathstroke #5 and would have won in three moves had he not been weakened.
Slade got stomped in Batman #28 leaving me with a hard choice of where to rank them.
It’s safe to say they’re even, and on their day they can beat the other.
New 52/Rebirth. Yeah. Pre 52 Slade was reasonably far above Bruce.
If you're debating pre-Flashpoint, there are literally only two comics you need to read in order to understand how this fight goes.
Post-Flashpoint is admittedly a bit more rocky, but I would argue that Deathstroke has nonetheless come off looking somewhat superior in all of their encounters with the exception of The War of Jokes & Riddles which was just obvious and undeniable WIS from the same writer that had Catwoman one-shot three Flashes. In their most recent fight, for example, Batman needed repeated strikes to the face with potentially multi-ton gloves to render him unconscious, meanwhile, Slade only needed to stab him in the gut once with his combat knife to bring him down to his level which he also managed to do so fast and so skillfully that Bruce didn't feel it initially, if he felt it at all.
slade has admitted batman is more skilled and he admits that batman's biggest problem is he wont kill he talked about one of his last fights bruce hit him with a killing strike that was modified not to kill and slade said that if bruce didn't alter the strike he might win on that i think a moral less bruce would win in spite of slade's advantages.
slade has admitted batman is more skilled and he admits that batman's biggest problem is he wont kill he talked about one of his last fights bruce hit him with a killing strike that was modified not to kill and slade said that if bruce didn't alter the strike he might win on that i think a moral less bruce would win in spite of slade's advantages.
This may be the case for New 52/Rebirth but pre 52 Bruce still loses to Slade. Badly, very badly.
Batman has beaten Deathstroke only once, under Tom King. No idea where the idea that they trade wins comes from.
What about when he flatlined him with his rifle?
@the_hajduk: That's Detective Comics #710 - Slade beat Bruce down in 3 hits in the first encounter, one-shotted him in the second. The last one is an ambush, too. In the context of "prevailing" and not allowing Slade to achieve his goal Batman succeeded, but that was by no means a fair, battles forum rules dictated fight.
@the_hajduk: Slade himself was distracted with a target. He swatted Batman aside at least two times before getting hit with the rifle.
@the_hajduk: That's Detective Comics #710 - Slade beat Bruce down in 3 hits in the first encounter, one-shotted him in the second. The last one is an ambush, too. In the context of "prevailing" and not allowing Slade to achieve his goal Batman succeeded, but that was by no means a fair, battles forum rules dictated fight.
Not battle forum rules, but it was a legitimate tactic if we assume Bruce feigned unconsciousness and snuck up on Slade. I call that a stealth win.
Batman has beaten Deathstroke only once, under Tom King. No idea where the idea that they trade wins comes from.
@the_hajduk: That's Detective Comics #710 - Slade beat Bruce down in 3 hits in the first encounter, one-shotted him in the second. The last one is an ambush, too. In the context of "prevailing" and not allowing Slade to achieve his goal Batman succeeded, but that was by no means a fair, battles forum rules dictated fight.
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@the_hajduk: He didn't really feign anything, though. Slade left him beaten severely, then continued on his mission. The entire issue is a demonstration of Batman's force of will, his inclination to go above and beyond against an opponent that outclasses him no matter how many times he's beaten down in the process. Chuck Dixon (writer of said issue) thinks that's his defining trait, that he will stop at nothing to complete his objective/mission.
@the_hajduk: He didn't really feign anything, though. Slade left him beaten severely, then continued on his mission. The entire issue is a demonstration of Batman's force of will, his inclination to go above and beyond against an opponent that outclasses him no matter how many times he's beaten down in the process. Chuck Dixon (writer of said issue) thinks that's his defining trait, that he will stop at nothing to complete his objective/mission.
That's interesting. I haven't actually read the issue, just seen the scans. Isolating those scans as a whole fight, it was a stealth win for Batman.
@the_hajduk: There are three separate encounters in the issue - in all three, Batman uses stealth, he just loses in the first two in spite of it. He eventually uses Slade's rifle to make an impossible shot, too. He doesn't like guns, but he sure can use them.
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