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#51  Edited By joshmightbe

@entropy_aegis: So we're not arguing whether Vic would win just the severity of the beating

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#52  Edited By entropy_aegis

@joshmightbe said:

@entropy_aegis: So we're not arguing whether Vic would win just the severity of the beating

Yup,kinda LOL.

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#53  Edited By progenitorigin

Well, strength-wise, Creed has tangled and made a fur coat out of a Wendigo, charged through an energy barrier that was supposed to be able to stop a charging elephant, just a couple of examples.

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#54  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@progenitor: In all fairness, the Wendigo defeat had nothing to do with strength. Once they went underwater, Sabretooth turned Wendy's jugular into an all you can eat buffet.

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#55  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@progenitor: @entropy_aegis: @joshmightbe:

Let the discussion on Creed's strength....begin!

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#56  Edited By Edgeworth_11

This is a serious mismatch. And Victor easily tore Spidy's webs. I think only 10 tonners plus can do this with their barehands.

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#57  Edited By progenitorigin

@k4tzm4n said:

@progenitor: In all fairness, the Wendigo defeat had nothing to do with strength. Once they went underwater, Sabretooth turned Wendy's jugular into an all you can eat buffet.

LOL, this is true.

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#58  Edited By nefarious

Creed would wreck Bane.
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#59  Edited By progenitorigin

@k4tzm4n: Awesome scans, in all fairness, the last two I believe are from Sabretooth: Death Hunt, when his son Graydon Creed (as Tribune) amped him up and turned him into TURBO SABRETOOTH.

Although, for the record, I think Creed could rip through restraints and a train like that even without being amped up.

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#60  Edited By progenitorigin

Strength feat: Creed wrecking Shiva.

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#61  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@Edgeworth_11: The effectiveness of Spider-Man's webbing really fluctuates from situation to situation. While that is a good amount of webbing, we also know his claws play a factor by cutting it (as seen by the slash caption).

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#62  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@progenitor: Thanks. Creed has undergone quite a few upgrades, which makes it especially hard to use him in battles.

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#63  Edited By progenitorigin

@k4tzm4n said:

@progenitor: Thanks. Creed has undergone quite a few upgrades, which makes it especially hard to use him in battles.

No kidding, Creed's been worked on more times than Joan Rivers.

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#64  Edited By Edgeworth_11

He is pretty quick and agile too... Bane would die in seconds.

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#65  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@progenitor: LOL

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#66  Edited By entropy_aegis

@Edgeworth_11 said:

He is pretty quick and agile too... Bane would die in seconds.

Bane can do that as well.

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#67  Edited By TheGoldenOne
Sabretooth.
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#68  Edited By progenitorigin

Aforementioned scan of Sabretooth leaping through an energy barrier built strong enough to detain a charging elephant.

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#69  Edited By Stronger

Sabretooth rather easily,unless Bane has venom.Then it would be a decent fight for Sabes.

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#70  Edited By Edgeworth_11

@entropy_aegis said:

@Edgeworth_11 said:

He is pretty quick and agile too... Bane would die in seconds.

Bane can do that as well.

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#71  Edited By shrmntnk62

Yep I agree. Vic would murder Bane. I'm just not sure, is there someplace that shows strength levels? Cause I would have thought them to be pretty even in strength. Sabretooth would win pretty easily though

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#72  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@entropy_aegis said:

@Edgeworth_11 said:

He is pretty quick and agile too... Bane would die in seconds.

Bane can do that as well.

To be fair, I think if I remember correctly what made that scan impressive was Psylocke had trouble locking onto their mind because of their speed.. Someone might have to vouch for me, I'm not entirely 100% sure.

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#73  Edited By entropy_aegis

@god_spawn said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@Edgeworth_11 said:

He is pretty quick and agile too... Bane would die in seconds.

Bane can do that as well.

To be fair, I think if I remember correctly what made that scan impressive was Psylocke had trouble locking onto their mind because of their speed.. Someone might have to vouch for me, I'm not entirely 100% sure.

That's better,Creed simply flipping is hardly something which Bane can't replicate.But if what you say is true then it's impressive.

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#74  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@entropy_aegis: Spider-man has said Wolverine is almost as fast as he is, Sabes is physically superior to Wolverine at least in the strength department by a margin. I'm not sure how much faster than Wolverine he is if at all in speed but he should match him at the least. So even if that scan isn't true, Creed is still much faster than Bane unless Venom increases speed too, from what I know it's strength, durability and gives a slight healing factor but I'm no expert on the subject.

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#75  Edited By entropy_aegis

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@entropy_aegis: Spider-man has said Wolverine is almost as fast as he is, Sabes is physically superior to Wolverine at least in the strength department by a margin. I'm not sure how much faster than Wolverine he is if at all in speed but he should match him at the least. So even if that scan isn't true, Creed is still much faster than Bane unless Venom increases speed too, from what I know it's strength, durability and gives a slight healing factor but I'm no expert on the subject.

Hmmm is Creed actually physically superior in all aspects or is just strength and durability? from what i know Bane too has been classified as being physical superior to Batman.Venom increases speed yes but i'm not sure by how much.Even if Creed is faster Bane is still more skilled so i guess it's slashing speed vs technical punches.

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#76  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@entropy_aegis said:

@god_spawn said:

@entropy_aegis: Spider-man has said Wolverine is almost as fast as he is, Sabes is physically superior to Wolverine at least in the strength department by a margin. I'm not sure how much faster than Wolverine he is if at all in speed but he should match him at the least. So even if that scan isn't true, Creed is still much faster than Bane unless Venom increases speed too, from what I know it's strength, durability and gives a slight healing factor but I'm no expert on the subject.

Hmmm is Creed actually physically superior in all aspects or is just strength and durability? from what i know Bane too has been classified as being physical superior to Batman.Venom increases speed yes but i'm not sure by how much.Even if Creed is faster Bane is still more skilled so i guess it's slashing speed vs technical punches.

Being more durable than Wolverine might be a stretch considering how hard it is to put down Wolverine+ adamantium, but there are people with healing factors similar to Wolverine that allow them to tank some heavy hits. Idk if you said Bane wins or not but his skill in a fight I doubt would overcome Sabretooth's advantages.

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#77  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@entropy_aegis: Captions have claimed over the years Creed is both faster and stronger. Naturally, Wolverine's advantage is his superior technique.

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#78  Edited By joshmightbe

@god_spawn: I believe the working theory is that without the adamantium Creed would have killed Logan a long time ago

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#79  Edited By entropy_aegis

@god_spawn said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@god_spawn said:

@entropy_aegis: Spider-man has said Wolverine is almost as fast as he is, Sabes is physically superior to Wolverine at least in the strength department by a margin. I'm not sure how much faster than Wolverine he is if at all in speed but he should match him at the least. So even if that scan isn't true, Creed is still much faster than Bane unless Venom increases speed too, from what I know it's strength, durability and gives a slight healing factor but I'm no expert on the subject.

Hmmm is Creed actually physically superior in all aspects or is just strength and durability? from what i know Bane too has been classified as being physical superior to Batman.Venom increases speed yes but i'm not sure by how much.Even if Creed is faster Bane is still more skilled so i guess it's slashing speed vs technical punches.

Being more durable than Wolverine might be a stretch considering how hard it is to put down Wolverine+ adamantium, but there are people with healing factors similar to Wolverine that allow them to tank some heavy hits. Idk if you said Bane wins or not but his skill in a fight I doubt would overcome Sabretooth's advantages.

I think his flesh/muscles are thicker than Logans.I don't believe Bane is gonna win by the way.

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#80  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@entropy_aegis: Fair enough.

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#81  Edited By Erik
@god_spawn@entropy_aegis:  
Sabretooth is indeed superior to Logan in every way PHYSICALLY since his final upgrade. 
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#82  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@Erik: Including natural durability minus the ady?

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#83  Edited By Erik
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@Erik: Including natural durability minus the ady?

That is a tough call. They both seem to take the same amount of damage with the same minimal effect but I would have to say yes simply for two reasons.  
  1. All his other stats are beyond Wolverine so it could be assumed his durability is as well.
  2. It is safe to assume Sabretooth's durability is relatively close to his strength level, which seems to be the case with most supers. 
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#84  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@Erik: Fair enough, thanks.

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#85  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

My scans on the other page remark on their stats.

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#86  Edited By TifaLockhart

I read the first page and wow, seemed like the whole board was against Bane judging by the "stop putting him in threads" comments.

I mean he still gets mauled in a fight but hopefully he gets respect now.

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#87  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Those comments were made at a time where Bane was misunderstood by many and being placed in matches vs the likes of Rhino, Juggernaut, Thing, etc.

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#88  Edited By TifaLockhart

@k4tzm4n: Thanks.

I actually could see Bane defeating Tieri's Wolverine with one-sided prep, but he's a step down from Sabretooth.

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#89  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Well, one-sided prep is the key part there ;)

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#90  Edited By progenitorigin

@k4tzm4n said:

Those comments were made at a time where Bane was misunderstood by many and being placed in matches vs the likes of Rhino, Juggernaut, Thing, etc.

you mean back in the day when people were asking Spider-Man "How do I shot web?" ¯\(°_o)/¯

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As long as he's not jobbing, Sabretooth wins. He's at minimum as strong as Bane, his healing factor gives him a high damage-soak and he's faster. Creed'll cut the venom feeds and rip Bane apart.

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Creed, and honestly it's not all that close. Sabertooth has more in common with someone like Deathstroke rather than Bane.

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